Welcome to another wide-ranging “Random Show” episode that I recorded with my close friend Kevin Rose!

We cover our recent Zen meditation retreat with Henry Shukman at Mountain Cloud Zen Center in Santa Fe, the fascinating science of vagus nerve stimulation, my recent back pain breakthrough, balance training tools, tendon-strengthening protocols from Swedish rock climber Emil Abrahamsson, the emerging research on photobiomodulation, urolithin A supplementation, blood-flow-restriction training, the Norwegian 4×4 protocol for cognitive longevity, podcast recommendations, vintage Japanese finds on Etsy, Kevin’s hummingbird-feeder obsession, and much more.

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SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE

• Connect with Kevin Rose:

Website | Instagram | Twitter | Threads | Bluesky | Digg.com | Diggnation Podcast

Books

• The End of Alzheimer’s: The First Program to Prevent and Reverse Cognitive Decline by Dale Bredesen
• The Great Nerve: The New Science of the Vagus Nerve and How to Harness Its Healing Reflexes by Kevin Tracey
• Heart Breath Mind: Conquer Stress, Build Resilience, and Perform at Your Peak by Leah Lagos
• The Power Broker: Robert Moses and the Fall of New York by Robert Caro

Related Resources

• Tibetan Bowls: Invoking Inner Peace and Deep Relaxation | Mindful Melodies
• Zen Master Henry Shukman — 20 Minutes of Calm, Plus the Strange and Powerful World of Koans | The Tim Ferriss Show #560
• Divergent Hepatic Outcomes of Chronic Ketone Supplementation: Ketone Salts Preserve Liver Health While Ketone Esters and Precursors Drive Inflammation and Steatosis | Pharmaceuticals
• Dr. Michael Levin — Reprogramming Bioelectricity, Updating “Software” for Anti-Aging, Treating Cancer Without Drugs, Cognition of Cells, and Much More | The Tim Ferriss Show #849
• Kevin J. Tracey, MD — What Most Has My Attention Right Now — Credible (vs. Bogus) Vagus Nerve Stimulation | The Tim Ferriss Show #824
• New Implant Offers Hope for Easing Rheumatoid Arthritis | Hospital for Special Surgery
• The Effects of a Four-Month Skateboarding Intervention on Motor, Cognitive, and Symptom Levels in Children with ADHD | Frontiers in Pediatrics
• Jerzy Gregorek Snatching on a Balance Board | The Happy Body
• 57-Year-Old Tony Hawk Snowboarding Hokkaido with Screws in His Hip | Instagram
• Gibbon Tightrope Walking on a Suspension Bridge | Facebook
• Dr. Keith Baar, UC Davis — Simple Exercises That Can Repair Tendons (Tennis Elbow, etc.), Collagen Fact vs. Fiction, Isometrics vs. Eccentrics, JAK Inhibitors, Growth Hormone vs. IGF-1, The Anti-RICE Protocol, and How to Use Load as an Anti-Inflammatory | The Tim Ferriss Show #797
• Craig Mod — The Real Japan, Cheap Apartments in Tokyo, Productive Side Quests, Creative Retreats, Buying Future Freedom, and Being Possessed by Spirits | The Tim Ferriss Show #802
• Craig Mod Returns — Epic Walks in Japan, The Art of Slowness, Digital Detox, Publishing “Impossible” Books, and Choosing Beauty Over Scale | The Tim Ferriss Show #803
• Francisco Gonzalez-Lima Talks About Brain Metabolic Mapping and Alzheimer’s | STEM-Talk #106
• Francisco Gonzalez-Lima Discusses Methylene Blue & Noninvasive Human Brain Stimulation | STEM-Talk #191
• Cognitive Enhancement by Transcranial Photobiomodulation Is Associated With Cerebrovascular Oxygenation of the Prefrontal Cortex | Frontiers in Neuroscience
• Anurag Singh on Urolithin-A’s Ability to Optimize Mitochondrial Efficiency | STEM-Talk #173
• Dr. Tommy Wood — How to Future-Proof Your Brain from Dementia | The Tim Ferriss Show #851
• Backyard Squirrel Maze 1.0 Ninja Warrior Course | Mark Rober

People

• Emil Abrahamsson
• Keith Baar
• James Beard
• Kelly Boys
• Dale Bredesen
• Robert Caro
• John Connor
• Dominic D’Agostino
• Dan Harris
• Tony Hawk
• Wim Hof
• Valerie Forstman
• Francisco Gonzalez-Lima
• Jerzy Gregorek
• Leah Lagos
• Michael Levin
• Roman Mars
• John McAfee
• Craig Mod
• Robert Moses
• MrBeast
• Nick Norris
• Conan O’Brien
• Rhonda Patrick
• Mark Rober
• Darya Rose
• Toaster Rose
• John Sarno
• Henry Shukman
• Socrates
• Howard Stern
• Kevin Tracey
• Andrew Weil
• Tommy Wood

Podcasts

• 99% Invisible: The Power Broker Series
• STEM Talk

Tools, Products, & Devices

• Birdbuddy Smart Solar Pro Hummingbird Feeder
• deltaG Ketone Monoester (BHB + 1,3-Butanediol)
• Gibbon Portable Slackline
• Happier Meditation App
• HeartMath HRV Biofeedback Device
• Indo Balance Board
• KAATSU C4 Blood Flow Restriction Bands
• Morpheus Chest Strap Heart Rate Monitor
• Normatec Compression Boots for Recovery
• NUG by Frictitious Climbing Portable Hangboard/Grip Trainer
• Nuropod Ear-Based Vagus Nerve Stimulator
• Oak Meditation & Breathing App
• Repatha PCSK9 Inhibitor
• The Way App

Supplements

• CocoaVia
• Creatine
• Ketone Salts
• Methylene Blue (Not as safe as its ubiquitousness suggests.)
• Omega-3 Fish Oil
• Pure Encapsulations Renual (with Mitopure Urolithin A)
• Vitamin D

Concepts & Protocols

• Abrahangs Protocol
• APOE Genotyping
• Bertolotti’s Syndrome
• Blood Flow Restriction (BFR) Training
• Box Breathing / 4-7-8 Breathing
• Cognito Therapeutics
• Dale Bredesen Protocol for Alzheimer’s Prevention
• Fasting-Mimicking Diet
• Inflammatory Reflex
• Klotho
• Koan
• Norwegian 4×4 High-Intensity Interval Training
• Photobiomodulation
• Radiofrequency Ablation (RFA)
• Transcendental Meditation
• Vagus Nerve Stimulation (Cymba Concha Placement)
• Vipassana Meditation
• Yoga Nidra
• Zen Meditation

Shopping & Lifestyle

• Blue Heritage Japan
• Japanese Wide-Head Toothbrushes
• Mountain Cloud Zen Center in Santa Fe, NM
• Visvim

TIMESTAMPS

• [00:00:00] A meditative start.
• [00:02:19] Reflecting on our second Zen retreat in Santa Fe with Henry Shukman.
• [00:04:08] Ketone liver warnings and eggplant allergies: The perils of raiding Kevin’s fridge.
• [00:08:06] “Just be still” — three simple words that miraculously shut down my OCD.
• [00:13:54] Is meditation secretly vagus nerve stimulation?
• [00:20:17] DIY vagus nerve stim for $25 vs. Kevin’s $900 ear clip.
• [00:24:57] HeartMath and watching your HRV move in real time.
• [00:27:57] Marching toward 50: balance boards and the end of jiu-jitsu.
• [00:31:26] Tony Hawk snowboarding Hokkaido with screws in his hip.
• [00:33:01] Slacklining and why your nervous system needs sleep cycles.
• [00:35:19] Bertolotti’s Syndrome: My six-year back pain gets a name.
• [00:37:09] The nerve block test: everything wrong, zero pain.
• [00:44:10] Abrahangs tendon protocol: 10 seconds on, 50 off.
• [00:46:24] The NUG: a pocket hangboard for travelers.
• [00:48:31] Craig Mod’s Japanese toothbrush and Toaster’s cameo.
• [00:50:45] Kevin’s $92 vintage fire jacket: Blue Heritage Japan.
• [00:54:26] Podcast picks: The Power Broker and STEM Talk.
• [00:56:20] Alzheimer’s: A plaque or mitochondrial problem?
• [00:57:30] 10 grams of ketones turns one-word answers into sentences.
• [00:58:40] Methylene blue on Amazon: 120 years of research, zero guardrails.
• [01:02:36] Bredesen Protocol, APOE genotyping, and a cognitive comeback.
• [01:05:32] Photobiomodulation: $30k laser to the forehead.
• [01:07:55] Urolithin A and the high price of mitochondrial upkeep.
• [01:14:56] Recipe for disaster pants: espresso + creatine + MCT oil.
• [01:17:39] Norwegian 4×4 training and lactate as a brain lever.
• [01:23:15] Blood flow restriction bands and schwantz ring koans.
• [01:29:08] Hummingbirds named Sunset and squirrel obstacle courses.
• [01:32:06] Parting thoughts.

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Want to hear a wide-ranging conversation that covers everything from AI to Alzheimer’s prevention? Listen to our last Random Show, in which Kevin and I discussed the 2-2-2 rule for alcohol, bioelectric medicine and accelerated TMS, the promises of DORAs for Alzheimer’s prevention, Kevin’s AI stack and investment thesis, aphantasia vs. hyperphantasia, surviving modern dating, wisdom from Anthony de Mello, and much more.