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ultradamno @5:50
ultra!
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Hiya Andrew!
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ultradamno @5:53
Greetings!
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By the way, the first Battlebot to incorporate AI, Canada's Orbitron, was quickly and soundly defeated by Witch Doctor
youtu.be...
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Oh hi Mark
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Now: Multiple hazards in effect...that from the local weather report, but a good tagline for this show
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Mark, luddites
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Hey Mark, hey All! Could what they do with the food delivery workers be considered a monopoly? I've been using Lyft but I'm going to make a concerted effort to use regular cabs from now on.
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stand and deliver!
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I may be the only New Yorker who doesn't use these apps. I know, weird! I imagine giving them cash tips - if you actually see them face-to-face- would be appreciated.
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Good evening Mark and everyone. In addition to, or because of the wage theft, many Uber and other gig workers need SNAP benefits. I *think* I've shared this as a gift article:
wapo.st...
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Hi Mark and markers!
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And to make matters worse, these delivery guys in NYC are apparently forced to speed on their ebikes due to the apps - which put them and other pedestrians in danger. Then there's also the apartment building fires caused by illegal lithium batteries on ebikes (cheaper). Workers and innocent people are hurt, killed - but big tech is are never held accountable.
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Evening Mark, everyone.
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Cash is king.
Don't use these apps.
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Customers are able to yank tips on Uber Eats drivers, but this is insane. There’s money to be made here at the summer at the shore when nobody wants to move their car. I’ve never seen tips that low come up here for the actual effort.
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Marie de Chicago @6:06
Hmmmm. There is competition among food delivery companies, so I don't think it would be a monopoly.
en.wikipedia.org...
Choosing other options is the best choice.
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Shameful
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Thanks for bringing this subject to light
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I consider it just plain lazy to use these apps.
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If these apps didn't exist, where would these riders/drivers work?
For instance, food delivery was never a universal service from restaurants, but now that it is possible with a technology integration, everyone has it.
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Even Mayuko is taking issue with AI now.
beakuency.substack.com... 🐦
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Deano de los Muertos @6:18
Do you prefer picking up or dining in?
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zachary @6:19
Either, doesn’t matter
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The Gig economy mostly benefits the tech companies. I drove for Uber for 3 years before the pandemic and (aside from meeting some interesting people and getting to know the metro area better), it was the worst employer/“employee” relationship I’ve ever experienced. I see people flying through the supermarket filling Instacart orders and can see their stress.
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it's all modern slavery, really
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As an Uber Eats / door dash driver, hearing these revelations are crazy. It’s an easy income if your record is clean. But takes a toll on your vehicle bad.and gas is on us to buy. Tip your drivers well, they risk their lives for your tacos 😂😭
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Deano de los Muertos @6:18
Agree. The only time I've used them was immediately following knee replacement surgery, when I couldn't drive. I live alone so no one could run the errand, and the cat can't reach the pedals.
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It’s a shame theres not a worker owned app that could compete against the VC funded ones.
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when I worked in Hoboken, people would often try to take advantage of our delivery guy. I once went to a place around the corner that had accepted a delivery they didn’t order, and fully admitted to just stealing it, and didn’t tip him
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This man is a true modern-day patriot.
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Peter from Saranac Lake NY @6:26
I never order delivery, but in that scenario, I would just contact the restaurant directly and order.
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This is a great show, thank you Mark
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Well this is pretty brutal - probably
a good basis for a longer piece. I don't use deliver services, but I know they are used a whole lot.
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Very moving show today, Mark
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Deano de los Muertos @6:20
Food is food.
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Im not a fan of facial recognition
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I am curious if people have approached the problem from a local level instead of a global solution.
I'll need to see what I can find.
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Sounds like they want to eliminate workers
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These delivery algorithms should be cleanroom developed and picked up to be run by accountable organizations (or govenments, or as an extension of the Postal system).
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i'll bet these companies can't wait for cheaper drones to fly food to a customer.
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talk about greed--how about some human decency?
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Zachary per your q @6:18 I wonder if these folks would have typically gotten jobs in the “back of house” at restaurants.
Does more delivery mean less dishes to wash?
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they are cruel
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dale @6:44
Hard to drone food in cities, though.
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Fantastic show!
Mark,
thanks!
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Busbiker @6:46
self-driving go karts?
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it is stories like this that make me regret never going to law school.
great show, Mark. thank you!
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Busbiker @6:46
There would need to be a drone traffic system to cover the scale they'd need. More externalities, of course. Drones are totally inappropriate for anywhere but places with big empty driveways.
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My question is. Is this all over the country or only in New York where they've been able to get these rules put in?
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Viva Los Deliveristas Unidos!
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Always pay tips in cash. And never get food delivered.
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Food trucks with a set of flying drones to deliver the food packages the last half-mile.
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dale @6:48
They’ll probably just keep trying to exploit people whose only choice is to work those sorts of jobs.
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We need transparency in algorithms that affect large numbers of people
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Shameful. Yes
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Like I work in advertising (sorry) and they regularly cull senior people and replace them with younger, less experienced people
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Very interesting show, thanks Mark!
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Busbiker @6:50
The idea is to be in the equivalent of Postal union.
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Yeah, uber totally eats.
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Thanks, Mark! Great work
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Lyft has continued to raise their prices at every turn
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There are still many restaurants in NYC that use their own non-app delivery people. Use them and pay tips in Cash. Thanks for such an informative show, Mark.
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restaurants used to have delivery staff, right?
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Marie de Chicago @6:55
They prefer to call it lyfting their prices.
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Sam @6:57
hahaHA
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Thanks, Mark. Help delivery workers move up the food chain!
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Workers Justice Project!!!!!! Great work!
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Thanks, everyone!
