Listener comments!

🤖 ♥ 5:47pm
: Mark! First Techtonsponders! 🤖 ♥ 6:01pm
Bas NL: Hi Mark and all! 🤖 ♥ 6:01pm
David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids. 6:01pm
morphe': Attuned.. 🤖 ♥ 6:02pm
herb.nyc: Hiya. First time posting during the music intro ♥ 6:03pm
TDK60: Hi Mark. 🤖 ♥ 6:03pm
chresti: Hi Mark and markers! 6:04pm
morphe':

↳ David (in London) @6:01

Hello David van der Stoke ..
our fox paws do not cross as often ... hope all is well ...   6:04pm
Elmonteslim: Yo ho Mark and all the techies ♥ 6:05pm
StringOFperils: Aren't the people building the data centers in bed with the people who deny all the data every day? 🤖 ♥ 6:05pm
Deano de los Muertos: Hey Mark 🤖 ♥ 6:07pm
Deano de los Muertos: I used to love the Sim games. 🤖 ♥ 6:08pm
Webhamster Henry: Funny Sim City meme there.   6:08pm
Excedrin headaches & ice cream dreams: did the explosive diarrhea parasite originate from a data center 🤔? contaminating the water..   6:08pm
Sam: https://theonion.com/openai-announces-construction-of-new-data-center-on-top-of-sick-child/ 🤖 ♥ 6:09pm
David (in London):

↳ morphe' @6:04

Yo morphester. Good to see you, sir. Yes, all well at this end thank you. I hope with you, too? 🤖 ♥ 6:09pm
ultradamno: theonion.com...   6:09pm
Marie de Chicago: Hi Mark, hi All! When are we going to send Musk to space?   6:10pm
Marie de Chicago:

↳ David (in London) @6:09

'allo, David! 🤖 ♥ 6:11pm
David (in London): UltraD, Bas, herb, Teeds, Chrestikins, Elmo, Deano, Henry, ice cream, Sam - hello good people. 🤖 ♥ 6:11pm
David (in London):

↳ Marie de Chicago @6:10

Hey Marie, how are you m'dear? 🤖 ♥ 6:11pm
Bas NL: As of July the Netherlands has put a freeze on new industrial electricity applications. A couple of huge data centers in the making are now on hold. 🤖 ♥ 6:12pm
bravedelay: There was a Futurism article a few days ago about how Grokipedia has evidently not had any updates in five months, which for many, raised the question of what Grokipedia even is. Well worth the pollution. 🤖 ♥ 6:12pm
ultradamno: Hiya DiL!   6:12pm
Sam: No Grok, no Flock and no TikTok! 🤖 ♥ 6:12pm
Bas NL: Hi David!   6:12pm
Marie de Chicago: Using up the water is so wrong... 🤖 ♥ 6:13pm
chresti: Davidkins! 6:13pm
morphe':

↳ David (in London) @6:09

Waiting for my London friends to finalize their new "Permanent" Neighborhood Coop Housing placement =
ever further South, but permanent ... you will see me soonish.. emphasis on the ish !!

Be well and safe and hello to FoFO ..

♥ 6:13pm
StringOFperils: Musk. Put it where they won't find it fast enough. Next stop, the already challenged Louisiana coast. After which, you won't have to worry about the stars at night.
www.theguardian.com...   6:14pm
Marie de Chicago: I'm good, enjoying the end of the summer here--I always feel good this time of year... how are you? Hopefully, no extreme heat these days? 🤖 ♥ 6:15pm
David (in London): As Johnny would have put it, 'I shot up a data centre in Reno, just to watch it die.'   6:15pm
Excedrin headaches & ice cream dreams: https://www.google.com/search?q=Do+data+centers+pollute+water   6:15pm
Marie de Chicago: And Musk's Space X has gobbled up large wetlands in Texas   6:15pm
?: Hey folks!
Greg Abbott is gonna hold off for a year: Now why in the heck would a place like TX wanna go and put in DC's anyways? They don't got no water and their electricity always goes out. It's like a riddle...those are my words not his 🤖 ♥ 6:15pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Mark and scrutinizers. It must be a full-time job to keep the map up to date. www.dcmap.us   6:16pm
Marie de Chicago:

↳ David (in London) @6:15

I think we might start seeing more guerrilla sabotage actions vs the centers... (I hope) 🤖 ♥ 6:16pm
DjLorraine: Food and water but also air. 🤖 ♥ 6:16pm
David (in London):

↳ Marie de Chicago @6:14

Likewise. I do well in the heat, so I've really enjoyed this summer. Helps to have had time off...   6:17pm
Marie de Chicago:

↳ David (in London) @6:16

oh, very nice. I thought you had permanent time off @) 🤖 ♥ 6:17pm
chresti: Data center parasites 🤖 ♥ 6:17pm
sensisio: LOL!! The bad w the terrible!   6:17pm
Excedrin headaches & ice cream dreams: MUCK needs to first rig the 'midterms' before he can be jettisoned to outer space   6:18pm
Marie de Chicago: I like this guy's accent 🤖 ♥ 6:18pm
Deano de los Muertos:

↳ David (in London) @6:11

Hey David 🤖 ♥ 6:18pm
herb.nyc: Buddha bless Wisconsin (my ex came from Madison to work at nyu, and we met. Yay) ♥ 6:18pm
StringOFperils: Makes sense that the same developers are building (equally high tech) catastrophe bunkers. The engineering of the end. 🤖 ♥ 6:18pm
sensisio:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:15

thanks for the warning map 🤖 ♥ 6:19pm
herb.nyc:

↳ sensisio @6:17

Yes. Great line 🤖 ♥ 6:19pm
sensisio:

↳ Marie de Chicago @6:15

Makes me angry!!   6:20pm
Marie de Chicago: some good news is politicians who have supported these centers are frequently losing elections (per NPR)   6:20pm
wenzo: I’ve heard the US already has over 4 thousand data centers is that correct?! 6:20pm
morphe': "Greenland issues ‘strong warning’ as Trump-linked oil firm prepares to drill"

[In a protected area]

www.theguardian.com...

  6:20pm
Sam: How is it protected wetlands if they’ll just sell it to Google? What the hell does protected even mean?   6:21pm
Annie: Is there any truth to stories that data centers in China are built more efficiently so that they don’t have same issues with draining water and energy? Can data centers can be built responsibly and with environmentally sound building practices - requiring more stringent building standards? (obv will cost more that big tech won’t want to pay)   6:21pm
Marie de Chicago:

↳ sensisio @6:19

me too--how dare they. It's our land, it is the world's ecosystem and THEY DON'T CARE   6:21pm
Sam: Louisiana’s getting screwed on all fronts. 🤖 ♥ 6:21pm
ultradamno: www.yahoo.com...   6:21pm
Excedrin headaches & ice cream dreams: how come the data center takeover wasn't ever mentioned in any politicians re selection speech 🤔   6:22pm
Marie de Chicago:

↳ morphe' @6:20

it makes me sick what Chump and people are doing 6:22pm
morphe':

↳ Annie @6:21

NO..

China just lies and kills and terrorizes citizens on a scale that Orangeman salivates over ...

  6:23pm
Elmonteslim: Everyone has a phone, but how do you teach them how to NOT use it for every stupid thing under the Sun? I mean do we ration data, charge alot more money for the"privilege"
Not to mention...
So I'll stop here.   6:23pm
Marie de Chicago: The Supreme Court makes me sick   6:24pm
wenzo: Francesca Hong in the Wisconsin Governors race, (primary tomorrow) supports a moratorium on data centers 🤞 ♥ 6:25pm
zachary: Evening Mark, everyone.

Thanks for talking about the data center and other related development questions, issues, and problems.

This is what I do every day. =)

If anyone is working on fighting data centers, semi-conductor facilities, or other industry, feel free to reach out.

♥ 6:25pm
StringOFperils: Time for new forms of self-governance when it's no longer by the people for the people. The next world can't work like this one.   6:25pm
Sam: Wow, Eric Adams’ corruption is absolutely limitless   6:27pm
Excedrin headaches & ice cream dreams: these corrupt mfs continue getting away with it all zero consequence   6:27pm
Elmonteslim: Certainly true that money and lobbyists are at one factor in the equation ♥ 6:28pm
zachary:

↳ StringOFperils @6:25

The bones (utility components) of the government are pretty good in the United States. Great Bill of Rights. States have the ability to have their own constitutions and laws, allowing variance. Threshold for engaging politically are incredibly low. Being a candidate has minimum requirements. Lots of potential.

What would you like to see changed?

  6:30pm
Sam: Oof, rough crowd! 🥺 I don’t get no respect!   6:30pm
Marie de Chicago: what a load of shite--created I am sure by hiighly paid PR people 🤖 ♥ 6:30pm
sensisio: do not miss E.Adams voice AT all   6:30pm
Excedrin headaches & ice cream dreams: we don't have leaders any more, we have bull shitters   6:31pm
Sam: Everybody just cool out! 6:31pm
morphe': Eric Adams:

Woman came up to me..
big woman
strong woman
tears in her eyes
saying ..
a friend of mine ..

  6:31pm
Excedrin headaches & ice cream dreams: ✌️   6:32pm
Excedrin headaches & ice cream dreams: pleased the crowd booed at least. hope for (what remains of) humanity   6:33pm
Marie de Chicago: they're tripping over themselves to find ideas to try to sell these things   6:34pm
Sam: Smithers, they were booing me!
Oh no sir, they were saying Boo-urns! ♥ 6:36pm
Peter from Saranac Lake NY:

↳ Excedrin headaches & ice cream dreams @6:30

I'd give anything to have a leader like Canada's Prime Minister Carney instead of a failed reality TV show host 🤖 ♥ 6:36pm
bravedelay:

↳ Marie de Chicago @6:33

what top-tier brand ambaasadors they've recruited! ♥ 6:36pm
zachary: If you are not familiar with your State's open door laws and public records acts, you should check them out, read up, and exercise your rights in this regard.

www.nfoic.org...

6:36pm
morphe':

↳ Excedrin headaches & ice cream dreams @6:31

Excedrin headaches & ice cream dreams and/or Cod Liver Oil & The Orange Juice
Re: an unwanted Glasgow pregnancy=[for later]
"Cod Liver Oil and the Orange Juice"

www.youtube.com...

  6:37pm
Saltonstall: Sounds like something you’d hear on Fabio’s show ♥ 6:37pm
StringOFperils:

↳ zachary @6:28

I would like to see law that isn't so easily painted over as mere irritating opinion. Independent states can definitely be a bulwark against central criminality. But the Supreme Court looks pretty gelatinous lately, and that along with the ongoing building of a private army/police force to suppress dissent, makes many of those systematic selling points seem vestigial. Of course, we are at a nexus in history where things could go either way. The checks and balances, with an eye toward true messy democracy, were something to be proud of, because they were a proven success. I'd like to believe that still exists, and I'd like my old confidence back. So I can stop looking over my shoulder. 🤖 ♥ 6:37pm
DjLorraine: I'm already sound sensitive   6:38pm
Saltonstall: This would make a great noise comp. : The Sounds of American Data Centers 🤖 ♥ 6:38pm
bravedelay:

↳ Saltonstall @6:37

my dog doesn't react to Fabio's show but she reacted to this.   6:39pm
Fredericks: I kinda like the north Virginia one. 🤖 ♥ 6:39pm
DjLorraine: That sound is alarming   6:39pm
David (in London): That sort of sound should be confined to Fabio’s show only. It has no place in people’s neighbourhoods. 6:40pm
morphe': In case we do not get to this =
Mark: ...'companies destroying rare books to feed to data centers..." [happening Ireland, Sweden, Germany and..]

Was just on the Irish News tonight =
"Galway bookseller suspects 'scattergun' order is for AI"

www.rte.ie...

♥ 6:40pm
cosmic matrix: what kind of soundproofing do these data centers do vs. what could they do better? ♥ 6:41pm
cosmic matrix: that’s fucking horrific 🤖 ♥ 6:41pm
sensisio: #noisepollution Yes Mark yes!! Their backyard!   6:41pm
Marie de Chicago: Trump and the supreme court have decapitated the EPA   6:41pm
Excedrin headaches & ice cream dreams: the lobbyist lackey "leaders" got their taxpayer serfs covered with radiation from smart meters now frequency & sound & water pollution from data centers!   6:41pm
Sam: It wouldn’t be so bad if the chord changed once in a while.   6:41pm
Marie de Chicago:

↳ Saltonstall @6:37

it does. ♥ 6:42pm
StringOFperils:

↳ Sam @6:41

Spoken like a WFMU vet   6:42pm
Marie de Chicago: Those things are gonna kill birds, kill ecosystems   6:42pm
Saltonstall: The flip side of NIMBY- Yes In Your Back Yard ♥ 6:43pm
cosmic matrix: aside from the awful water/cooling/energy needs i do wonder if they could do better sound treatments or find quieter alternatives…? 🤖 ♥ 6:43pm
sensisio:

↳ Marie de Chicago @6:42

I know I hate all of it...Somethings got to give   6:43pm
Fredericks:

↳ Excedrin headaches & ice cream dreams @6:41

I think light pollution as well.   6:43pm
Sam: My rent might actually go down - hilarious   6:43pm
Marie de Chicago: They put a HUGE one in Mississippi despite strong local opposition--mostly and African American area I believe ♥ 6:44pm
cosmic matrix: i do know bass is hard to control as the waves are big but those awful screeching noises??   6:44pm
Marie de Chicago:

↳ Marie de Chicago @6:43

(or they are putting it in now)   6:44pm
Saltonstall: @ Sam- do t give them any ideas. They’ll whitewash the noise by making them play songs   6:44pm
Marie de Chicago:

↳ sensisio @6:43

If a bunch of stupid people actually wake up, we have a lot of possibilities 🤖 ♥ 6:45pm
bravedelay:

↳ cosmic matrix @6:41

I live in a flight path about 2 mi from a major int'l airport and in the early aughts, the regional airport commission outfitted all homes with triple-pane windows, insulation, mini-split ACs at no cost to the homeowners. of course, you can't soundproof a jet engine in the sky, and the homes were there first. contrast that with the open contempt these tech companies have toward communities, and the fact that effects could be blunted   6:45pm
Sam:

↳ Saltonstall @6:44

Yeah. That might be worse almost.   6:45pm
Elmonteslim: If no one wants to live there, the rent will go down!   6:46pm
Fredericks:

↳ cosmic matrix @6:44

You talking about Fabio's show?

"...the waves are big but those awful screeching noises?? "

♥ 6:46pm
cosmic matrix:

↳ Fredericks @6:46

lol ♥ 6:46pm
MJ Turner: they've approved a data center in my neighborhood its going half a mile from my house as the crow flies.   6:47pm
Marie de Chicago: How can anyone believe these people anymore? (FB, Ggle, etc.?) 🤖 ♥ 6:47pm
bravedelay: actual lol at the phrase "a good corporate neighbor"   6:47pm
Excedrin headaches & ice cream dreams: Michael Jackson warned society with his song "They Don't Care About Us" but nobody was listening ♥ 6:47pm
cosmic matrix:

↳ bravedelay @6:45

i understand. i’m just wondering to what degree the sound could be “blunted”, that’s all. now i’m going to do the same. :)   6:48pm
Sam: You know the tech bros are laughing their asses off thinking about the people who are so poor they’ll have no choice but live next to these things. ♥ 6:49pm
StringOFperils:

↳ Marie de Chicago @6:47

NO! And ongoing coverage of them as though they can be believed is confusing the shit out of me. 🤖 ♥ 6:50pm
bravedelay:

↳ cosmic matrix @6:47

heh, the only sounds they're blunting are nature sounds. I guess my point was that tech companies can't take even a bare minimum good-faith effort to accommodate neighbors   6:51pm
Excedrin headaches & ice cream dreams: imagine if no one voted not a single person at the polls nation wide zero ballots cast for any of them...   6:51pm
Marie de Chicago: They're further sloppifying it. Move fast break things, only think of yourself 6:51pm
morphe': morphe':

In case we do not get to this =
Mark: ...'companies destroying rare books to feed to data centers..." [happening Ireland, Sweden, Germany and..]

Was just on the Irish News tonight =
"Galway bookseller suspects 'scattergun' order is for AI"

[They are destroying original texts/books... cutting and destroying]
www.rte.ie...

♥ 6:52pm
cosmic matrix:

↳ bravedelay @6:50

why does that not surprise me? :(   6:52pm
Sam: Literally Fahrenheit 451   6:52pm
Marie de Chicago: OMG, that is so scummy. They need to be regulated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ♥ 6:52pm
cosmic matrix: WHAT?!?!?!?! 🤖 ♥ 6:52pm
Deano de los Muertos: super villain plans ♥ 6:53pm
cosmic matrix: holy shit, talk about dystopian. gross. yuck. ♥ 6:53pm
zachary:

↳ StringOFperils @6:37

Thanks, StringOFperils.

Laws can always be changed though. That's the paradox of the legislative process in a republic. Anything written into law can be changed at any time. When an election cycle rolls around, make changes to the personnel elected in government, encouraging changes to those unelected government employees.

The way you game the Supreme Court is through what constitutionally valid laws are on the books. They can only interpret cases through the Constitution and it rolls down from there to the laws allowed by the Constitution. It's slow. And it's reliant on the work of other branches of government.

Public and private police forces are a difficult question. Who enforces the laws? Some people need to. This is a tough one.

What caused you to lose confidence in the system? Or do you not have confidence in the people running the machinery?

  6:53pm
Marie de Chicago:

↳ StringOFperils @6:49

yeah, that is not good journalism! 🤖 ♥ 6:53pm
Deano de los Muertos:

↳ cosmic matrix @6:53

I thought it was a joke when I first heard about it a couple weeks ago   6:53pm
Sam: They’re sadistic. It’s just evil all the way down. ♥ 6:54pm
cosmic matrix:

↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:53

i..i..i’m in shock. 🤖 ♥ 6:54pm
ultradamno: In no story has the good guy destroyed books ♥ 6:54pm
PaulRobeson1926: They’re not collectors. They’re hoarders ♥ 6:54pm
zachary:

↳ Marie de Chicago @6:47

Because people don't retain a memory of the crimes and outcomes by their favorite companies.

Instead, they feel happy when shown their logo.

Marketers know what's going on.

  6:55pm
Sam: Do they at least get charged a late fee??? 🤖 ♥ 6:56pm
Deano de los Muertos: Thanks Mark ♥ 6:56pm
cosmic matrix: “...They believe they may be getting picked up at collection points in Europe and shipped to the US where so called "fair use" policies make it legal to slice the spines and the books are scanned using the text to train artificial intelligence. The physical books are destroyed." 6:56pm
morphe': Thanks Mark and all !!!   6:56pm
Fredericks: Get rid of paper files, replacing them with digital storage allows history to be changed while simultaneously destoying the truth.   6:57pm
Sam: They don’t want us to have old books. They don’t want us to have knowledge or anything of beauty. They want us to forget there was something so much better than screens.   6:57pm
Excedrin headaches & ice cream dreams:

↳ morphe' @6:51

they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats! re: an unwanted festivity situation (for now) "don't eat the pets of people who live there" https://youtube.com/watch?v=3BrCvZmSnKA ♥ 6:57pm
cosmic matrix: So if a European all of a sudden wants to buy all of your books, think twice!   6:57pm
Elmonteslim: Thx for a lively hour of relevant content Mark! And to all who listen and contribute. Never enough time for good ideas ♥ 6:57pm
cosmic matrix: Thanks Mark 🤖 ♥ 6:57pm
DjLorraine: Thank you Mark and techtonics! 🤖 ♥ 6:57pm
sensisio: #villianaires
The 5 Corners Library is on the line...sign to help save it thx Mark!   6:57pm
Marie de Chicago: Thanks Mark 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
Bas NL: Thanks Mark! ♥ 6:58pm
bleubombersune: Thanks Mark all stray safe and be well   6:58pm
Bay Ridge Danny: thanks Mark!   6:58pm
Excedrin headaches & ice cream dreams: Gracias Mark !   6:58pm
Sam: Thanks Mark keep doing god’s work!   6:59pm
ron-ji: Terrific, inspiring episode! ♥ 6:59pm
zachary: Thanks, Mark. Everyone. Get involved in your local politics. ♥ 7:00pm
Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!