Listener comments!

🤖 ♥ 5:54pm
: OK, Mark and the Techyons!

Gotta get the monsters fed here ...

🤖 ♥ 5:59pm
ultradamno: Mark! The Techtoponized! 🤖 ♥ 6:00pm
tim: Hi Mark and everyone! 🤖 ♥ 6:01pm
Deano de los Muertos: Oh, hi Mark ♥ 6:01pm
Ironside: Hi Mark! Looking forward to the show! 🤖 ♥ 6:02pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Greetings, Mark and datatypes. ♥ 6:02pm
Mark T: Good evening everyone 🤖 ♥ 6:02pm
David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids.   6:02pm
chresti: Hi Mark and markers! 🤖 ♥ 6:02pm
Bas NL: Hi Mark! Hi all; let's share some data! 🤖 ♥ 6:03pm
Michael G from Windsor Terrace: Good afternoon Mark and everyone! Looking forward to the conversation today 🤖 ♥ 6:03pm
Handy Haversack: We have a "Ceci n'est pas une bagpipe" fridge magnet. 🤖 ♥ 6:04pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ David (in London) @6:02

Aye, Runza. ♥ 6:05pm
PaulRobeson1926: Ok google, what happens if l eat undercooked sausage? 🤖 ♥ 6:05pm
DjLorraine: Greetings Mark and techmarkers. ♥ 6:06pm
Mark Hurst: Hi Handy, ultra, tim, Deano, Ironside, KfHP, Mark T, DiL, chresti, Bas, Michael G, PaulR, DjL - welcome! 🤖 ♥ 6:06pm
Webhamster Henry: Hi Friends! Another YIPE show tonight! ♥ 6:07pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:06

Yipe, yikes, geez, hoo boy - all of those 🤖 ♥ 6:07pm
joe mulligan:

↳ Song: "Interview with Andrew Guthrie Ferguson"

same as it ever was.. wonder where my hand was!   6:07pm
Fredericks: Just because they can get information doesn't mean they should be able to use it. Similar to info extracted by torture. 🤖 ♥ 6:08pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ Song: "Interview with Andrew Guthrie Ferguson"

Do you know I sing a mashup of Once in a Lifetime and Do You Know The Way to San Jose? 🤖 ♥ 6:08pm
disco_nap_: Was just reading the "Data" chapter of Kate Crawford's excellent book "Atlas of AI" and it includes a lengthy section about mugshots being used to train AI systems   6:09pm
Fredericks:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:08

I'd give it a listen at least once. 🤖 ♥ 6:10pm
DjLorraine: Seems over the phone they are recording but they dont allow another option. 🤖 ♥ 6:10pm
joe mulligan: has anyone seen this doom -n- gloom predictins of ai?
www.youtube.com... ♥ 6:12pm
Buddha of Suburbia: Hey ♥ 6:12pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Buddha of Suburbia @6:12

welcome, Buddha ♥ 6:12pm
Buddha of Suburbia: Hi Mark! ♥ 6:15pm
Hunterian: Came here to post the NYT SCOTUS link from this afternoon that Mark already posted, so hat tip to Mark ♥ 6:16pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Hunterian @6:15

👍 🤖 ♥ 6:16pm
Will thee SG OCNY: Good evening Mark Hurst and all!!! ♥ 6:17pm
PaulRobeson1926: I wonder, how much the War on Drugs has helped to create this kind of attitude? The attitude that says the police should have every little bit of information on everyone because there may be criminals somewhere. ♥ 6:17pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Will thee SG OCNY @6:16

Hi WtSG! ♥ 6:21pm
StringOFperils:

↳ PaulRobeson1926 @6:17

G-Men enforcing prohibition is probably where the people became the enemy in a more organized fashion....on behalf of a politically controlling religious faction within society, which was no doubt fronting something else...that had to do with money, which was/is power ♥ 6:25pm
StringOFperils: A working legal framework presupposes a legal structure that isn't corrupted, partisan, and intrinsically owned by private business concerns....so...that poses a distinct problem ♥ 6:27pm
StringOFperils: ...quite a preamble to saying hello: Hello, Mark and Andrew 🤖 ♥ 6:28pm
Will thee SG OCNY: They should not be able to buy the data. Warrants are for a reason ♥ 6:29pm
PaulRobeson1926:

↳ StringOFperils @6:21

After the prohibition of the drug alcohol folded up in 1933- The folks who took up the cause of prohibiting other drugs had been committed Alcohol prohibitionists. - David F. Musto ♥ 6:29pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ StringOFperils @6:27

Hi SoP 🤖 ♥ 6:30pm
Ken From Hyde Park: If there's a big announcement coming, you've got my vote, Senator Hurst! ♥ 6:32pm
StringOFperils:

↳ PaulRobeson1926 @6:29

Let’s bring back that old favorite, Special K. - Michael Musto ♥ 6:33pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:30

"Vote for the tech critic!" 🤖 ♥ 6:36pm
Blobs: The 1st amendment means that sometimes we'll hear things that upset us. The 4th amendment means that sometimes police won't be able to find incriminating evidence that they could otherwise use to arrest an actual criminal. The 5th amendment means that criminals will sometimes go free by not incriminating themselves. These are all obvious tradeoffs for living in a supposedly free society. ♥ 6:36pm
Hunterian: Harry Shearer has floated the idea of "copyrighting your life." I know enough about law to think it's interesting, but not enough to know if it's a solution.
harryshearer971370.substack.com... 🤖 ♥ 6:38pm
Handy Haversack: There is so much we could say no to, though. I know I'm an outlier in terms of not using any cell phone, but come on! Ditch you spy phones, ditch social media, stop using Amazon. It is NOT THAT HARD. I know there are some parts of the country where it's become impossible to buy anything in a store, but that's not the whole place. We should start with a stance of refusal -- hit them in their subscriber base and THEN force them back altogether.

We need a lot more NO WAY.

♥ 6:38pm
Bob Tankenstein: Great interview, Mark ♥ 6:39pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Bob Tankenstein @6:38

Thanks, Bob ♥ 6:40pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:38

Well said, Handy 🤖 ♥ 6:42pm
Handy Haversack: I obfuscate as much as possible in all internet interactions and definitely monitor the various addresses for who's selling what. Also, use a VPN and route all your browsing through Canada! The internet is SO MUCH more polite when it thinks you're Canadian. 🤖 ♥ 6:42pm
Webhamster Henry: I have 781 email alias right now -every service login that asks for "your email address" gets a unique one. 🤖 ♥ 6:42pm
bravedelay: I haven't looked for a job in 16 years, and friends are telling me I need a linkedin, and look at me like I have four heads when I explain why feeding my professional history to a for-profit huge tech company is a bad idea... I figure, when pressed, I am educated enough to explain why!

(and thanks to Mark for helping me along that journey)

  6:43pm
yippie: i like to use the cat cam when i go on vacation. when i get home i unplug it because i don't want it to spy on me. i like to spy on my cat, i dont really care much if big tech spies on my cat too ♥ 6:43pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ bravedelay @6:42

Well done. I think most people don't realize that LinkedIn is owned by Microsoft. Big Tech through and through. 🤖 ♥ 6:43pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ bravedelay @6:42

LinkedIn is the MySpace of job discovery, larded with so much automated response and engagement prompting. And they conveniently made about 20 employees up for my "business" that I cant get rid of. 🤖 ♥ 6:44pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:43

I was trying to do some research on the finalists for the director position at work and drew the damn line at signing into LinkedIn for the first time in ten years. 🤖 ♥ 6:44pm
bravedelay:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:43

Yes, and I laugh when I square that with friends telling me the best way to get an 'in' at a company is by [gasp] having a human connection. So what's the point of all this then...? ♥ 6:45pm
StringOFperils: Refuse to use the CLOUD. So no to indicating your location. Say no to corporate tracking "to provide you with a better experience'. Agree with banning smart devices (in schools at least) for anyone that can't yet be called an adult. *that last bit might be hard to ascertain
The genie's out of the bottle, and putting it back might be a pipe-dream....but pushback is called for now really, because this is a burgeoning police state 🤖 ♥ 6:46pm
Will thee SG OCNY:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:42

Awesome 🤖 ♥ 6:46pm
Handy Haversack: Scholarly presses FTW! 🤖 ♥ 6:46pm
Blobs: Thank you, Mark & Andrew! ♥ 6:48pm
Ironside:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:43

What upsets me about LinkedIn is that a lot of local job centres in my city are telling everyone who's looking for work they HAVE to use LinkedIn, which I deeply disagree with. I haven't needed their service in a few years, but I should stop by there and educate them on how intrusive and damaging the site can be. 🤖 ♥ 6:48pm
ultradamno: Funny bit on last night's The Audacity, a tech CEO pressures his therapist's husband to give him a test to find out where on the spectrum he lands and is horrified to find the results have him not at all neurodivergent, but worse, rated high on having empathy. 🤖 ♥ 6:48pm
chresti: Nosy devices 🤖 ♥ 6:50pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ bravedelay @6:44

Human connection worked pretty well for me! I ran into my former boss on the street once and he hired me and my best friend to work at his new company, skipping an interview. I said - This is on Windows (I like Unix)" he said "no problem, you'll learn it in a week". Cygwin was my friend. 🤖 ♥ 6:51pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ ultradamno @6:48

I'm gonna have to get a free signup for AMC+. 🤖 ♥ 6:52pm
bravedelay:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:50

That's fantastic. None of us asked for these 'systems' to be essential to professional life. More evidence that saying NO not only helped you, but your friend, too! 🤖 ♥ 6:52pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ bravedelay @6:52

Ahh, the Dot Com Era! 🤖 ♥ 6:53pm
Will thee SG OCNY: I heard that Duck Duck Go is really Bing in the background, has anyone else heard anything about this?

I'm leaning towards using Brave more now

🤖 ♥ 6:54pm
Handy Haversack: Today we would say "their." 🤖 ♥ 6:56pm
Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark! Another crucial show! 🤖 ♥ 6:57pm
chresti: Thanks Mark! ♥ 6:57pm
Ironside: Thank you for an illuminating show Mark. Great interview!! 🤖 ♥ 6:57pm
Will thee SG OCNY: Thank you Mark, Andrew, and the Accu Peeps!!! ♥ 6:57pm
StringOFperils: Grim, yet really interesting. Thanks guys! 🤖 ♥ 6:57pm
Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Andrew! ♥ 6:58pm
Bob Tankenstein: Thanks Mark! 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
erik:

↳ Will thee SG OCNY @6:53

as far as I know Duck does uses Bing and others, but it uses it , you use duck, so there is a level of abstraction there. 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ Will thee SG OCNY @6:53

DuckDuckGo uses Bing’s index as its primary source of traditional web results, and that has not changed as of 2026., but stripped of surveillance, kind of like the DuckVideo Viewer. 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark & Andrew and whomever else is out there listening. 👂 ♥ 6:58pm
bleubombersune: Thanks Mark all stray safe and be well 🤖 ♥ 6:59pm
Webhamster Henry: And remember, folks, to shrink that attack surface! ♥ 6:59pm
Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! ♥ 6:59pm
StringOFperils: Under the spreading chestnut tree I sold you and you sold me 🤖 ♥ 7:00pm
Deano de los Muertos: Thank you, Mark! 🤖 ♥ 7:01pm
Will thee SG OCNY:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:58

Ok, I knew the web results were. I saw someone talking about it and didn't know if things got more complicated. Thank you for the info