Listener comments!

  5:35pm
: Hi Mark! 🤖 ♥ 5:53pm
ultradamno: Mark! Dorktontators! 🤖 ♥ 6:00pm
Deano de los Muertos: Oh, hi Mark! 🤖 ♥ 6:00pm
Bas NL: Hi Mark and all! 🤖 ♥ 6:01pm
tim: Hey Mark and gang! I'm really intrigued by the show description for tonight. 🤖 ♥ 6:03pm
Marley P. Dogg: Hello Mark, Andrew, Bas and friends   6:04pm
Fredericks: Pretty sure I heard an interview with Gil recently.

Pretty sure Mark's background will lead things in a different direction.

  6:04pm
ElMonteSlim: Hi Mark and Alert nerds   6:05pm
Andrew in Toronto:

↳ tim @6:01

Hi tim!   6:05pm
Andrew in Toronto:

↳ Marley P. Dogg @6:03

Hi Patrick! 🤖 ♥ 6:05pm
chresti: Hi Mark and markers! 🤖 ♥ 6:05pm
sensisio: Good evening! 🤖 ♥ 6:05pm
tim:

↳ Andrew in Toronto @6:05

Hey Andrew! 🤖 ♥ 6:07pm
Webhamster Henry: Hit friends! Uh oh, Elon Musk's little city I think has quite a number of restrictions.   6:07pm
Marie de Chicago: Hi Mark, hi All! I heard Mr. Duran interviewed about this book before—chilling. I think news outlets and newspapers should be covering it. WE MUST OVERTURN CITIZENS UNITED 6:10pm
El Gato Blanco: Sounds all too real to me. 🤖 ♥ 6:10pm
DjLorraine: Hello ♥ 6:11pm
Mark Hurst: Hi Andrew, ultra, Deano, Bas, tim, Marley, Fredericks, ElMonte, chresti, sensisio, webhamw Marie, El Gato, and DjL - welcome! 6:11pm
El Gato Blanco: We are living in a confluence of bad decisions on so many levels.   6:12pm
Marie de Chicago:

↳ El Gato Blanco @6:11

yeah   6:12pm
Andrew in Toronto:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:11

Hi, Mark!
Thanks! 🤖 ♥ 6:13pm
chris in the redwoods: hiya, Mark. inherent in fascism is control, no? i.e. the desire to increase restrictions on the greater population (at the very least the "enemy" groups) ♥ 6:15pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:13

Indeed - all about concentration and projection of power. 🤖 ♥ 6:15pm
chris in the redwoods: wrt silicon valley companies, that control may be the control over the data of all human activity. yikes.   6:16pm
Andrew in Toronto:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:13

Hi, chris!   6:16pm
Neo Girl: None of this 💩 was needed in the 70s 🤖 ♥ 6:16pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ Andrew in Toronto @6:16

dude!   6:16pm
Andrew in Toronto:

↳ ultradamno @5:53

Hi ultra! 🤖 ♥ 6:16pm
Marley P. Dogg: Time to form the WFMU state 🤖 ♥ 6:16pm
chresti: Send 'em all to outerspace 🤖 ♥ 6:16pm
ultradamno: Hiya Andrew!   6:17pm
Andrew in Toronto:

↳ Marley P. Dogg @6:16

Go ahead.   6:17pm
Andrew in Toronto:

↳ ultradamno @6:16

Greetings!   6:17pm
tup: the fasism comes from the roman empire
it was allowed for the centurions to punish the soldiers with a rod (facis), if they didn't listen ♥ 6:17pm
DanFA: Who wants to go live in the woods with me?   6:17pm
Neo Girl:

↳ chresti @6:16

Best plan yet 🤖 ♥ 6:18pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ Andrew in Toronto @6:17

Or at least WoofMooCoin   6:19pm
Neo Girl: My neighbor thinks Elon Musk invented PayPal 🤖 ♥ 6:19pm
DjLorraine:

↳ DanFA @6:17

I need a/c, heat, and fresh water 6:20pm
El Gato Blanco: Crypto = klepto 🤖 ♥ 6:20pm
DjLorraine:

↳ El Gato Blanco @6:20

Good one 🤖 ♥ 6:20pm
Ken From Hyde Park: More fascist talk with Dave Emory: www.wfmu.org... ♥ 6:20pm
DanFA: Of course he's mediocre. You ever hear that dude speak. ♥ 6:21pm
DanFA:

↳ DjLorraine @6:19

So you wanna go glamping. 🤖 ♥ 6:21pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ DjLorraine @6:19

i have heat and water. two out of three ain't so bad. :)   6:21pm
tup: hey ultradamno 🤖 ♥ 6:21pm
sensisio: is that like KookyKultKonspiracy?
:| 6:21pm
El Gato Blanco: Become a book, living in the woods like Edgar G. Robinson in Soylent Green. 🤖 ♥ 6:21pm
ultradamno: Hi tup! 🤖 ♥ 6:22pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ sensisio @6:21

that's the way i heard it!   6:23pm
Neo Girl: Most people are brainwashed to believe billionaires are geniuses to be idolized by society 🤖 ♥ 6:24pm
regina j: Mark, this is one of those truly scary episodes. Eeeeeek! ♥ 6:24pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ regina j @6:24

I agree   6:24pm
the weekend: Which explains why they are building bunker compounds and buying islands 6:25pm
El Gato Blanco:

↳ Marie de Chicago @6:07

Yes! Ending Citizens United is a very good and very important start to unravel this ever growing gordian knot 🤖 ♥ 6:25pm
ultradamno: Antichrist Rolls Eyes Throughout  Peter Thiel Lecture

‘This Guy Has No Idea What He’s Talking About,’ Says Son Of Perdition

theonion.com...

♥ 6:25pm
DanFA: Have you watched the recent season of South Park, Mark? 6:25pm
MarciB: I thought Thiel said Greta Thurnberg was the antichrist... 6:26pm
MarciB:

↳ ultradamno @6:25

Lol!   6:26pm
Neo Girl: Playing a game, yes. With the public as chess pieces 🤖 ♥ 6:26pm
chris in the redwoods: the orange one does that inversion thing, too. ♥ 6:27pm
DanFA:

↳ MarciB @6:25

Everyone is the antichrist to him. ♥ 6:27pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ DanFA @6:25

just ep1, I think 6:27pm
winston legthigh: hey mark, gill, techies. ♥ 6:28pm
DanFA:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:27

There's one episode where Peter Thiel is the main antagonist.   6:28pm
tup:

↳ ultradamno @6:25

studied today that 9-8 again
Nagasaki, Japan - Nov 29 2022: Nagasaki Atomic Bomb Museum is a ...

alamy.com

♥ 6:28pm
PC77: "I no longer believe that freedom & democracy are compatible." -Peter Thiel 🤖 ♥ 6:29pm
chresti:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:26

"double talk" 6:29pm
MarciB: But Lakes Powell + Mead are now at historic lows and the oligarchs want their data centers - climate and citizens be damned.   6:29pm
tup:

↳ tup @6:28

www.alamy.com...   6:29pm
Andrew in Toronto:

↳ PC77 @6:28

Hi PC77! 🤖 ♥ 6:29pm
Marley P. Dogg: Not to jump ahead, but what do we do? ♥ 6:30pm
DanFA: They're gonna drink our milkshake. 6:30pm
winston legthigh: chrestikins, andrewkins!   6:30pm
Fredericks: These guys, all guys, call it effective altruism. Gotta take care of the people of the future, so sacrifice today. I call it pie in the sky.   6:30pm
Andrew in Toronto:

↳ winston legthigh @6:30

winstonkins! 🤖 ♥ 6:31pm
chresti: winstonkins! 🤖 ♥ 6:31pm
chris in the redwoods: Sunday's Doonesbury was perfect.   6:31pm
Jong: We need 10,000 of Gil! Clear confident ready to go! ♥ 6:33pm
PC77: Thiel at a young age lived in a German community in Namibia where people still venerated the nazis & greeted each other with the heil hitler salute. 6:36pm
MarciB: But Elmo's money didn't buy him Wisconsin... 🤖 ♥ 6:38pm
ultradamno: ...and I assume money laundering 🤖 ♥ 6:38pm
chris in the redwoods: never forget the democratic party and the republican party are for-profit corporations, people. they do not represent you. this crypto bribery talk is a good case in point. 6:39pm
winston legthigh:

↳ PC77 @6:33

at first glance I thought you said thief ♥ 6:39pm
PC77:

↳ winston legthigh @6:39

That isn't far off the mark. ♥ 6:40pm
Count d'Al Dente:

↳ El Gato Blanco @6:25

Agree. One of many things that needs to happen quickly. ♥ 6:40pm
PC77: In January 2009, bitcoin was created by pseudonymous developer "Satoshi Nakamoto"- the only problem is, nobody knows who "Satoshi Nakamoto" is. 6:41pm
El Gato Blanco: This all goes back to Reagan and deregulation…opening the door for grift and manipulation to cede control to smaller and smaller groups.
Capitalism can lull you to sleep with it’s endless fog of “things you need” if you don’t keep pinching yourself. 🤖 ♥ 6:41pm
Ken From Hyde Park: I'm having difficulty visualizing the crypto scheme. Is there a diagram, like with stickpins, pictures and yarn posted against the wall? 🤖 ♥ 6:42pm
Marley P. Dogg: Sounds like the plot to that show Incorporated ♥ 6:42pm
Count d'Al Dente:

↳ Marley P. Dogg @6:29

It appears Mangione had the right idea; just needs to be on a larger scale.   6:42pm
Neo Girl: These people could be using their money for good. Instead they do this shit   6:43pm
Marie de Chicago:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:38

I disagree. And I think there are real differences between the parties   6:43pm
Andrew in Toronto:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:24

Fantastic show!
Mark, thanks! ♥ 6:43pm
PC77: Tech guru Curtis Yarvin a/k/a ''Mencius Moldbug'' is a tech bro guru & college dropout. ♥ 6:44pm
DanFA: This all sounds like a fever dream. 🤖 ♥ 6:44pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ Marie de Chicago @6:43

there are real difference between *people* who are aligned with each party, yep. however, the parties themselves are soulless corporations. ♥ 6:44pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Andrew in Toronto @6:43

thanks   6:45pm
Neo Girl:

↳ Count d'Al Dente @6:42

Flock cameras are the billionaires solution to Luigi Mangione 6:45pm
El Gato Blanco:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:44

Sadly I agree. Accurate. 6:46pm
El Gato Blanco: Another fantastic and informative show Mark. Thank you!   6:47pm
Neo Girl: The Uniparty, your illusion of choice   6:47pm
Fredericks: It is as if they read CyperPunk novels and thought it would wonderful sit on top of a Corporate Nation State. 🤖 ♥ 6:48pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ Fredericks @6:47

i'm now nervous to watch Neuromancer for fear of recognizing the world we now live in. 6:49pm
High_Quality_Fun: people should understand tax policy was not about raising revenue, it was at one time about preventing massive generational wealth - when that ended, the rich took control ♥ 6:49pm
Mike Sin: Red tribe = “useful idiots” 🤖 ♥ 6:50pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

↳ High_Quality_Fun @6:49

It's due to start trickling down to use aaany day now. ♥ 6:50pm
Count d'Al Dente:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:41

I still don't understand it, and I read about it in its early years; couldn't understand where its value came from. Totally surreal. It's just people with vast computer systems creating these digital icons they claim have a value, but you have to use real money to buy into it. ♥ 6:50pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ El Gato Blanco @6:46

thanks 6:50pm
High_Quality_Fun: this "tax the rich" movement is often sold as how to pay for programs - but it should be about ending billionaires 🤖 ♥ 6:50pm
ultradamno: ...but at least we're free of the tyranny of not having to worry about all the food 🤖 ♥ 6:50pm
chresti: Geeze what a strategy 🤖 ♥ 6:50pm
Deano de los Muertos: Interesting and disheartening interview, Mark ♥ 6:51pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:50

new slogan.. "Techtonic: interesting and disheartening" 6:52pm
El Gato Blanco:

↳ High_Quality_Fun @6:50

Right on   6:52pm
Fredericks: Don't have to believe in the resurrection anymore. January 6ers' innocence and the stolen 2020 election are the new litmus tests. 6:52pm
MarciB: It's a monopoly...easy to blame individuals when the issue is systemic. ♥ 6:52pm
sinner: Wow. Great show. 🤖 ♥ 6:52pm
chresti: Overgrown spoiled brats ♥ 6:52pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ sinner @6:52

brother Nutt!   6:53pm
Neo Girl: Curing diseases, creating abundance - that's what humans do, not monsters 🤖 ♥ 6:53pm
DjLorraine: Dis heart 💖 ♥ 6:54pm
dale: what will the ultra rich do when the toilet breaks? can they fix it themselves? 6:54pm
High_Quality_Fun: America was founded as an anti-aristocracy society, eventually culminating in the highest tax rate at 95% - that was a good idea 🤖 ♥ 6:54pm
chris in the redwoods: i like this Gil guy! and this Mark guy! thanks you two. *lots* to think about here. ♥ 6:54pm
PC77: www.wired.com...   6:55pm
Neo Girl:

↳ dale @6:54

Hopefully flush themselves down it? 🤖 ♥ 6:55pm
Deano de los Muertos: Thanks Gil   6:55pm
Fredericks: Escape Fantasies of the Tech Billionaires

"Douglas Rushkoff was invited to speak to a group of the world's wealthiest people about "the future of technology." When he arrived, however, he found himself in a room answering five urgent questions from five extraordinarily powerful men. Each question was the same, really: How do I survive what's coming? "

6:55pm
winston legthigh: thanks mark and all fighting the good fight. 6:56pm
MarciB: This is why Luigi is a folk hero in some circles 🤖 ♥ 6:56pm
Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Gil!
Vote Bigtech Tax!   6:56pm
Bay Ridge Danny: Thanks Mark and Gil. 🤖 ♥ 6:56pm
chresti:

↳ Neo Girl @6:55

Broken toilets rise! 🤖 ♥ 6:56pm
sensisio: @markhurst I'm soo glad you had this show.
Millionaires or Democracy! 6:56pm
MarciB: Looking forward to reading this book - thanks Mark + Gil   6:56pm
ElMonteSlim: Thanks for sharing Mark, now everyone else should try and do the same .cya nxt week ♥ 6:56pm
PC77: Mark, thanks for having Gil on the show & shedding light something that's been FUTR for far too long. Maybe people finally will open their eyes to this threat. ♥ 6:56pm
bleubombersune: Mark and Gil Wonderful interview all stray safe and be well   6:57pm
Neo Girl: Nowhere else could we hear an interview like this 🤖 ♥ 6:57pm
sensisio:

↳ sensisio @6:56

Villianaires, Billionaires 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
tim: Thanks, Mark! I would like to hear more about network states. ♥ 6:58pm
PC77: What do you think they mean by their favorite saying- "move fast & break things." Hint- the "things" are OUR things. 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark & Gil.   6:58pm
Saltonstall: Tech will tear us apart again 🤖 ♥ 6:59pm
Deano de los Muertos:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:51

The Harrison Ford meme made me smile 🤖 ♥ 7:00pm
Webhamster Henry: "When your'e rich, they think you really know!" -- Tevye the Milkman ♥ 7:00pm
Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!   7:00pm
tup:

↳ Song: "Tracking Devices" by "Peter Peter Hughes"

great song, last year bought my first smart phone,
otherwise i had no work, sold my soul..prosit