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2023-02-28 · via Meta Tech Podcast

Feb 27, 2023

Lisa works on the Dev Craft team at Instagram that embarked on a journey to bring Kotlin to the Instagram for Android code base a little over three years ago. Now, nearly half of the large codebase is migrated and over 80% of newly committed code is in Kotlin. Tune in to hear what the unique challenges of bringing a new language to an existing app are and what it means for build speed, IDE experiences and developer happiness.

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Timestamps

  • Intro 0:06

  • Intro Lisa 1:27

  • Dev Craft at Instagram 3:03

  • Building DevX Partnerships 3:56

  • The History of Kotlin at Instagram 6:22

  • Declarative UI 18:29

  • Build Speed Challenges 20:25

  • Source-Only ABIs 23:19

  • IDE Performance 26:19

  • Kotlin at IG in 2023 27:15

  • Outro 32:02

  • Bloopers 33:07