Hunter Biden, the troubled son of former President Joe Biden, appeared in a tell-all interview on Gov. Gavin Newsom’s podcast.

Biden, wearing a poncho western shirt, spoke on a range of characters in the political world, from Candace Owens to Donald Trump, Jr.

Biden also most notably defended Graham Platner, the Democrat nominee for a Maine senate seat, who is under fire for allegations of toxic, dishonest relationships with women and having a Nazi tattoo.

He told Newsom that few Americans would survive the “show me your phone” test and be elected to office.

“He was a veteran, a combat veteran, and he came back. He had some real issues, and with PTSD, and, and that trauma, and whatever way that he was working it out, I think he had been really open about,” Biden said.

The former president’s son referred to his own struggles with drug addiction as a comparison.

“It takes a lot of stamina, at least….I think courage to… get back up and, and build a better life,” Biden said.

Most people would have a lot of ugly things on their phones if one were to examine everything on it, he said.

“If that’s the standard by which we are going to judge people, particularly people in elected office, then I don’t think we’re going to have many people in elected office,” Biden told Newsom.

In the podcast appearance, he also joked with the governor about a presidential run, telling the governor: “Here’s the deal. I’ll run, but only as your VP.”

The podcast appearance has set off some critics who poked fun at Newsom’s decision to host Biden, who’s had a controversial history.

He’s faced a litany of alleged events, from drug addiction and prostitutes to tax evasion and giving political trouble to his father with a “laptop from hell.”