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Between Two Nerds: Hackers vs the state
The Grugq · 2026-08-04 · via Risky Business Media

Risky Bulletin Podcast

August 04, 2026

Presented by

The Grugq

The Grugq

Independent Security Researcher

Tom Uren

Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq talk about whether hacker culture is inherently anti-authoritarian and how different states get their country’s hackers to work for the state.

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Between Two Nerds: Hackers vs the state

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