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dwouu 2
What are you trying to do? Create a boot partition? Are you in UEFI mode?
yes thats exactly it and yes I am using uefi mode.
I will look at the link below.
Just looked at it, how come some operating systems use /efi but others use /boot?
dwouu 5
I’ve never heard of an OS or boot manager being mounted to /efi. That directory doesn’t even exist, by default.
Some boot managers just use /boot even in UEFI mode.
zymotek 6
Are you thinking of /boot/efi vs /boot?
You have to select the grub boot manager for that.
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This is endeavourOS:
I chose systemd bootloader and it gives me the /efi partition, I did the same thing with cachyOS I don’t see /efi.
K I will stick with /boot then. Thank you!
zymotek 8
Huh, apparently /efi is a thing, specifically for systemd-boot.
I don’t and would never use it, so never came across it.
That is a combo box though, right? You can just type anything in, rather being forced to pick an option? It’s possible it will work if you just type in /efi, as long as you use systemd-boot.
You could try it, if you want. Worst case scenario, it doesn’t, and you’ll need to install again.
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for systemd bootloader when mounting it as /efi
I wished that cachyOS supported /efi for systemd boot for those who wish to encrypt /boot.
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cscs 10
/efi is one of the suggested ESP paths;
And maybe even preferred;
But some people get inordinately angry about it for some reason. ![]()
zymotek 11
First time I’m hearing of /efi being a thing at all.
/boot/efi has been the standard for, what, 15 odd years? Deviating from such an established standard, let alone changing it and declaring it obsolete, should only be done with strong technical reasons and thorough consideration for all current use cases, would you not agree?
Have you looked at the two reference links in that quote, which it uses to justify declaring the established standard to be “historical” and “now discouraged”?
Personally, I can see why “some people” would get “inordinately angry” about it “for some reason”.
cscs 12
Yes, I have, because I have referenced the same thing before and its existed on the Archwiki for something like 5 years if not closer to a decade like the comment thread [2] links.
And just because something is new to you does not mean there should be some sort of anger about it existing. This is what I mean I guess. We might have something or other to discuss about obsolescence (though /boot/efi has not been made obsolete). But sometimes I feel like that anger for /efi simply being seems to at least in part be motivated by ego. Like its a personal affront that the information was not already part of that persons repertoire so it therefor needs to be attacked. The documentation is not new. I have been using an /efi partition for more years than I remember now.
And as illustrated by this thread, or by what EOS uses, or by the Archwiki, or by other tools that use or focus on it .. its not exactly esoteric knowledge either.
Theres still nothing stopping you from using /boot/efi as much as you like.
Or from trying to discuss/edit the archwiki if you think it could be improved for that matter.
zymotek 13
It has nothing to do with it being new (to me, or otherwise).
It’s the way it is shoe-horned, and the flimsy reasoning behind it.
This seems really ironic to me.
/efi was brand new to me. I had no feelings about it, one way or the other. I even suggested a way the OP could try to achieve what they wanted.
And immediately I’m hit with things like:
- “the historical and now discouraged
/boot/efi” - “But some people get inordinately angry about it for some reason.
” - “just because something is new to you does not mean there should be some sort of anger about it existing”
Who’s angry? Who’s “attacking” who?
From where I’m standing, it looks more like proponents of /efi attacking and trying to undermine alternatives, driven perhaps by an insecurity about their own choices, which then leads to a desire to destroy all other options. An unfortunately common theme with systemd and its supporters.
It’s like walking up to someone, spitting in their face, and then acting surprised and offended by their reaction.
There’s nothing stopping you from using /efi as much as you like.
You don’t have to attack or undermine other options just to justify your own choices.
























