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THE PROGRESS REPORT: Building the future – Viviene Beins on aerospace engineering, women, and Australia’s defence industry PODCAST: Australian defence industry faces a changing strategic landscape, with Phillip Tarrant and Robert Dougherty CONTESTED GROUND: Is Australia slowly regulating away its own prosperity – and, with it, its national resilience? SPOTLIGHT: Building an integrated ADF through cloud and emerging technology, with Jonathon Beesley and Richard Campbell PODCAST: Australia’s defence procurement is narrowing and becoming less resilient, with 127 East Advisory’s Colin Storey PODCAST: Australia’s UGV dilemma and why land autonomy remains stuck in the mud, with Stephen Bornstein SPOTLIGHT: Building resilience against next-generation cyber threats, with Fortinet SPOTLIGHT: Quantum technology could reshape Australia’s defence advantage, with Fujitsu Australia PODCAST: Digital engineering, GWEO, and the future of guided weapons, with Australian Missile Corporation and Dassault Systèmes CONTESTED GROUND: Is Australia’s political discontent becoming a national security problem? SPOTLIGHT: The hidden defence advantage of Australia’s commercial logistics network SPOTLIGHT: From assembly to manufacturing – how Port Wakefield transforms Australian missile capability PODCAST: Drones over Williamtown, radar exports and Australia’s evolving defence partnerships SPOTLIGHT: Cyber loyal wingmen – how frontier AI transforms Defence from defender disadvantage to asymmetric advantage SPOTLIGHT: Building Australia’s missing middle – how DIDS reshapes defence industry economics THE PROGRESS REPORT: Against the tide – Captain Mona Shindy on gender, culture and change in the Royal Australian Navy PODCAST: UK–Australia defence cooperation, GCAP and CEA advanced radar, with UK Minister Luke Pollard PODCAST: From hardware to algorithms – how Defence is embedding AI into warfare without surrendering human accountability CONTESTED GROUND: Weak, vulnerable, backwater – Australia’s choice between strategic camps and managed decline PODCAST: Undersea dominance – Australia charts the maritime future through autonomous systems and AUKUS innovation PODCAST: Australian Army Cadets pathways, submarine industry growth and Australia’s fuel security CONTESTED GROUND: The blind faith factor – why Australians trust an ADF they don’t understand PODCAST: Defence preparedness, artificial intelligence productivity, and Australian industrial resilience CONTESTED GROUND: Shots fired! Chinese missile test shatters Australia’s ‘fog of peace’, with Mike Pezzullo SPOTLIGHT: Counter-drone innovation, directed energy and delivering operational outcomes, with EOS Defence Systems’ Lee Kormany PODCAST: Strengthening security ties, Fiji defence pact and Australia’s counter-drone push CONTESTED GROUND: Lessons from the UK in political polarisation, generational dislocation and intergenerational warfare, with Ben Dullroy, Bravo Delta Advisory PODCAST: Defence Industry Development Strategy, Defence reform and Australians fighting in Ukraine CONTESTED GROUND: Budget backlash – has Australia lost its political middle ground? CONTESTED GROUND: Australia’s sovereign capability reckoning – why the system is no longer fit for purpose
PODCAST: The broad church – why Pine Gap remains the foca...
Robyn Tongol · 2026-08-27 · via Podcast

Recent public backlash over the suspected involvement of Pine Gap in the ongoing conflict with Iran has once again raised concerns about Australia’s sovereignty, its status as an “imperial” province or valued partner and the future of Pine Gap and other US bases in the country.

Recent public backlash over the suspected involvement of Pine Gap in the ongoing conflict with Iran has once again raised concerns about Australia’s sovereignty, its status as an “imperial” province or valued partner and the future of Pine Gap and other US bases in the country.

The 300-person gathering at Pine Gap in Alice Springs signals a periodic spike rather than a structural acceleration of Australia’s anti-bases movement, according to Dr Nicole Townsend, war studies lecturer and director of UNSW Canberra’s Second World War Research Group, Asia-Pacific. Yet the movement’s durability warrants close attention from defence industry and policymakers alike.

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Speaking with news editor Robert Dougherty, UNSW Canberra historian Dr Nicole Townsend argues that recent protests reflect a cyclical resurgence driven by geopolitical instability, not fundamental shift in public opposition to US military cooperation.

Pine Gap dominates anti-bases consciousness not because it is Australia’s only joint facility – several operate under Australia–US agreements, maintaining the fiction that no foreign bases exist on Australian soil – but because of what isn’t publicly known. Townsend emphasises that protesters’ core complaint isn’t demand for disclosure; it’s the philosophical tension: if you cannot tell us what happens here, should it be here? That secrecy, necessary for intelligence operations, defines the facility’s place in public imagination.

What distinguishes the movement is its deliberately assembled coalition. Townsend’s David Scott Mitchell Fellowship research into the Australian Anti-Bases Campaign Coalition reveals extraordinary heterogeneity: unions, teachers associations, Indigenous groups, pro-Palestine activists and Greens politicians coexist under an umbrella targeting US basing. Yet this breadth obscures fragmentation. A recent national survey of 1,500 Australians found roughly one-third neutral on bases – neither supportive nor opposed – complicating assumptions about movement momentum. Lowy polling suggests 50–55 per cent support US basing, 43 per cent opposed.

Historically, these movements spike during geopolitical anxiety – Cold War nuclear fears, Iraq War opposition in 2003 – then subside. Current resurgence reflects Middle Eastern instability and Indo-Pacific uncertainty rather than new anti-American sentiment.

Townsend cautions against predicting trajectory. Media framing shapes which groups appear prominent; political contexts shift suddenly. Precedent exists for direct action targeting defence expos in the 1990s. But whether current momentum continues upward, stabilises or declines depends on variables historians cannot forecast.

The movement remains a barometer of Australian strategic anxiety, not a settled political force.

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