We revisit two well-studied problems, Bounded Degree Vertex Deletion and Defective Coloring, where the input is a graph $G$ and a target degree $Δ$ and we are asked either to edit or partition the graph so that the maximum degree becomes bounded by $Δ$. Both are known to be parameterized intractable for treewidth. We revisit the parameterization by treewidth, as well as several related parameters and present a more fine-grained picture of the complexity of both problems. Both admit straightforward DP algorithms with table sizes $(Δ+2)^\mathrm{tw}$ and $(χ_\mathrm{d}(Δ+1))^{\mathrm{tw}}$ respectively, where tw is the input graph's treewidth and $χ_\mathrm{d}$ the number of available colors. We show that both algorithms are optimal under SETH, even if we replace treewidth by pathwidth. Along the way, we also obtain an algorithm for Defective Coloring with complexity quasi-linear in the table size, thus settling the complexity of both problems for these parameters. We then consider the more restricted parameter tree-depth, and bridge the gap left by known lower bounds, by showing that neither problem can be solved in time $n^{o(\mathrm{td})}$ under ETH. In order to do so, we employ a recursive low tree-depth construction that may be of independent interest. Finally, we show that for both problems, an $\mathrm{vc}^{o(\mathrm{vc})}$ algorithm would violate ETH, thus already known algorithms are optimal. Our proof relies on a new application of the technique of $d$-detecting families introduced by Bonamy et al. Our results, although mostly negative in nature, paint a clear picture regarding the complexity of both problems in the landscape of parameterized complexity, since in all cases we provide essentially matching upper and lower bounds.