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Between Two Nerds: Nerds at NATO
The Grugq · 2026-06-09 · via Risky Business Media

Risky Bulletin Podcast

June 09, 2026

Presented by

The Grugq

The Grugq

Independent Security Researcher

Tom Uren

Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq speak at the NATO CyCon conference on Cyber Conflict in Tallinn, Estonia. The pair discuss how cyber operations complement conventional military operations and the past, present and future of cyber conflict.

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Between Two Nerds: Nerds at NATO

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