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Between Two Nerds: Set cyberspace ablaze
The Grugq · 2026-06-30 · via Risky Business Media

Risky Bulletin Podcast

June 30, 2026

Presented by

The Grugq

The Grugq

Independent Security Researcher

Tom Uren

Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

In this edition of Between Two Nerds, Tom Uren and The Grugq discuss whether cyber organisations should actually be separated from Signals Intelligence organisations. The Grugq argues that having cyber expertise subordinate to intelligence collection means that many opportunities are never explored.

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