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SPOTLIGHT: LAND 156, counter-drone warfare and electronic...
Department 13 · 2026-06-02 · via Podcast

How can Australia keep pace with the rapid proliferation of drones reshaping the character of warfare and creating new challenges for militaries, governments and critical infrastructure operators around the world?

How can Australia keep pace with the rapid proliferation of drones reshaping the character of warfare and creating new challenges for militaries, governments and critical infrastructure operators around the world?

In this episode of the Defence Connect Spotlight podcast, senior journalist Robert Dougherty is joined by Ben Westgarth, chief executive officer of Department 13, to discuss the evolution of counter-uncrewed aerial system technology and Australia’s role in developing sovereign capability.

Dougherty and Westgarth examine the significance of Project LAND 156, the Australian Defence Force’s program to establish a layered counter-drone capability capable of detecting, tracking and defeating emerging aerial threats.

The pair explore the role of radio frequency detection technologies in modern electronic warfare, highlighting how Department 13’s capabilities contribute to situational awareness and threat detection across increasingly complex operating environments.

They discuss the changing nature of drone warfare, drawing lessons from contemporary conflicts where low-cost, rapidly adaptable drone systems are challenging traditional military capabilities.

Westgarth outlines how focusing on the fundamental characteristics of drone systems, rather than individual models, can provide a more enduring framework for counter-drone development.

Looking beyond defence applications, the pair discuss the importance of dual-use technologies, balancing commercial opportunities with national security requirements.

Westgarth highlights the growing need for layered detection, warning and response systems to defend military installations, government facilities and essential national assets against emerging drone threats.