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PODCAST: Australia’s defence procurement is narrowing and becoming less resilient, with 127 East Advisory’s Colin Storey PODCAST: Australia’s UGV dilemma and why land autonomy remains stuck in the mud, with Stephen Bornstein SPOTLIGHT: Building resilience against next-generation cyber threats, with Fortinet SPOTLIGHT: Quantum technology could reshape Australia’s defence advantage, with Fujitsu Australia PODCAST: Digital engineering, GWEO, and the future of guided weapons, with Australian Missile Corporation and Dassault Systèmes CONTESTED GROUND: Is Australia’s political discontent becoming a national security problem? SPOTLIGHT: The hidden defence advantage of Australia’s commercial logistics network PODCAST: The broad church – why Pine Gap remains the focal point of Australia’s anti-bases movement SPOTLIGHT: From assembly to manufacturing – how Port Wakefield transforms Australian missile capability PODCAST: Drones over Williamtown, radar exports and Australia’s evolving defence partnerships SPOTLIGHT: Cyber loyal wingmen – how frontier AI transforms Defence from defender disadvantage to asymmetric advantage SPOTLIGHT: Building Australia’s missing middle – how DIDS reshapes defence industry economics THE PROGRESS REPORT: Against the tide – Captain Mona Shindy on gender, culture and change in the Royal Australian Navy PODCAST: UK–Australia defence cooperation, GCAP and CEA advanced radar, with UK Minister Luke Pollard PODCAST: From hardware to algorithms – how Defence is embedding AI into warfare without surrendering human accountability CONTESTED GROUND: Weak, vulnerable, backwater – Australia’s choice between strategic camps and managed decline PODCAST: Undersea dominance – Australia charts the maritime future through autonomous systems and AUKUS innovation PODCAST: Australian Army Cadets pathways, submarine industry growth and Australia’s fuel security CONTESTED GROUND: The blind faith factor – why Australians trust an ADF they don’t understand PODCAST: Defence preparedness, artificial intelligence productivity, and Australian industrial resilience CONTESTED GROUND: Shots fired! Chinese missile test shatters Australia’s ‘fog of peace’, with Mike Pezzullo SPOTLIGHT: Counter-drone innovation, directed energy and delivering operational outcomes, with EOS Defence Systems’ Lee Kormany PODCAST: Strengthening security ties, Fiji defence pact and Australia’s counter-drone push CONTESTED GROUND: Lessons from the UK in political polarisation, generational dislocation and intergenerational warfare, with Ben Dullroy, Bravo Delta Advisory PODCAST: Defence Industry Development Strategy, Defence reform and Australians fighting in Ukraine CONTESTED GROUND: Budget backlash – has Australia lost its political middle ground? CONTESTED GROUND: Australia’s sovereign capability reckoning – why the system is no longer fit for purpose PODCAST: Defence export ambitions, drone technology and defence manufacturing hubs PODCAST: Offshore manufacturing, defence procurement and industrial resilience, with Philippe Odouard and David McLaughlin SPOTLIGHT: Cyber warfare, autonomy and the future of defence, with Palo Alto Networks’ Tom Scully and MAJGEN (Ret’d) John Davis
CONTESTED GROUND: Australia and the West must ask themsel...
Robyn Tongol · 2026-05-11 · via Podcast

Each and every day, the world is becoming more unpredictable, yet Australia continues with the post-Cold War status quo. As things continue to deteriorate, we’re going to have to ask ourselves some particularly confronting questions.

Each and every day, the world is becoming more unpredictable, yet Australia continues with the post-Cold War status quo. As things continue to deteriorate, we’re going to have to ask ourselves some particularly confronting questions.

Australia and its allies are entering an “age of chaos” in which the assumptions that shaped the post-Cold War order are rapidly breaking down.

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Rather than dealing with isolated crises that can be managed and resolved individually, governments, militaries, and societies are now confronting overlapping and mutually reinforcing disruptions, including strategic competition, technological upheaval, economic fragmentation, supply chain vulnerability, and the rise of networked authoritarian powers.

Central to Australia’s response is understanding the distinction between traditional “crisis management” and “chaos management”. Crisis management assumes stability will eventually return and institutions can revert to previous norms once a disruption passes. Chaos management, by contrast, accepts that instability, uncertainty, and persistent competition are now enduring features of the strategic environment.

In this episode of the Contested Ground podcast, host Steve Kuper is joined by expert defence and security analyst and White House veteran Robbin Laird to discuss the impact of the emergence of the era of disruption.

This only becomes more important and pivotal as we grapple with the reality that the international system is no longer defined by uncontested Western dominance, nor is it returning to a simple Cold War-style bipolar structure.

Rather, the world is evolving into a fragmented and highly interconnected environment where economic dependency and geopolitical rivalry coexist simultaneously, particularly between the United States and China. This creates strategic complexity for middle powers such as Australia, whose decisions on defence, trade, industrial policy, and alliances will increasingly shape the balance of power in the Indo-Pacific and beyond.

Australia’s response to this is recognising the growing importance of resilience and sovereign capability. The author argues that efficiency and globalisation can no longer be the sole priorities for democratic nations if they undermine strategic security. Supply chains, industrial capacity, digital infrastructure, and technological innovation are increasingly viewed as national security issues rather than purely economic considerations.

In this context, adaptability, redundancy, and the ability to rapidly regenerate capability are presented as critical determinants of national power. Ultimately, democratic nations must rethink how they approach leadership, preparedness, and strategy in a world defined by accelerating disruption.

Rather than attempting to restore an increasingly obsolete status quo, governments and institutions must develop the capacity to operate effectively amid prolonged uncertainty, while strengthening alliances, industrial resilience, and societal cohesion to navigate an increasingly contested global order.

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The Contested Ground Team