Listener comments!

🎸 ♥ 7:22pm
: Good Hello. 8:15pm
Arvo Zylo: EYE EYE CAPITAN   8:51pm
Rob Marvin: Hi, hello, I am Arvo’s friend. Arvo has friends. Godspeed, Arvo. 8:57pm
Imaginos: Ahoy 8:58pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Rob Marvin @8:51

Ha! Thanks! 🎸 ♥ 9:01pm
Bandit: Howdy 9:01pm
Imaginos: Darned comsmash 9:01pm
Geoff-U: Hiiiiiii [waving] 9:02pm
Imaginos:

↳ Geoff-U @9:01

Waves back 9:02pm
Mr. X: Arvology 101: I'm taking notes. 🎸 ♥ 9:03pm
Bandit:

↳ Mr. X @9:02

*peaks over to copy notes and whispers* I forgot to study! 🎸 ♥ 9:04pm
Austin Rich: We've got a pretty full Digital Salon tonight! No call-ins or anything this time, but you do get three hours of Arvo. Hopefully that works for you? 9:04pm
Mr. X:

↳ Bandit @9:03

Shh, don't tell, I'm actually just doodling pictures of hot rods and space ships. 🎸 ♥ 9:04pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Rob Marvin @8:51

Rob! Always delightful to see you in the Digital Salon. 9:04pm
Geoff-U: That definitely works for me. I am a convert, thanks to this show! 🎸 ♥ 9:05pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Imaginos @8:57

Ahoy, Imaginos! My dedicated listener, nearly every week! 🎸 ♥ 9:06pm
Bandit:

↳ Song: "Thunder & Lightning" by "Disney collaged with The...

Was this a short track? I feel like I looked up and two other tracks already played 🎸 ♥ 9:06pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "Thunder'n' Lightnin'" by "Hoyt Axton"

My mom worked at a gas station for years, and Hoyt Axton stopped to get gas while passing through Cottage Grove, sometime in the late 80's. My mom talked to him for while, and got his autograph before he had to get a move on. 🎸 ♥ 9:07pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Bandit @9:06

Yes, that was a combination of two track, layered on top of each other. 9:07pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Mr. X @9:02

I recently released a solo tape called "Cacology" which is apparently the study of bad handwriting, and if so, I could teach that class... 🎸 ♥ 9:07pm
Bandit:

↳ Austin Rich @9:07

Ah ok! 🎸 ♥ 9:07pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Mr. X @9:04

Mr. X! I think you get a free pass, considering what an "A" student you are, the rest of the time. 9:08pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Bandit @9:06

Yes this was a short Residents track mixed with Disney Sound Effects. 🎸 ♥ 9:08pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Geoff-U @9:04

Geoff-U! You really are the best. I hope you are well. 🎸 ♥ 9:08pm
Bandit:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:07

Where can we hear it? Also this first few tracks is giving SummerWeen vibes 9:10pm
Geoff-U:

↳ Austin Rich @9:08

Aw thanks! I missed last week because reasons but I'm here now. I'm gonna cook dinner but I will have this on the Bluetooth speaker 9:11pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Bandit @9:08

Actually it was a cassette limited to around 30 copies with handwritten and hand-drawn covers, for subscribers only, and only a few tracks were previously available on bandcamp... for subscribers... but thanks!

www.discogs.com...

🎸 ♥ 9:11pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "Mystery Man" by "Todd Andrews"

That opening riff was almost Sesame Street... 9:11pm
Geoff-U: Satan's Sadists lol 9:11pm
JM in Texas: Howdy everyone…ready for some Zylo remote DJ action tonight!!! 9:11pm
postconsumer: now I'm just rattled 9:12pm
Imaginos:

↳ Austin Rich @9:11

The same is true for Manchester from Hair 🎸 ♥ 9:12pm
Bandit:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:11

Gave your bandcamp a follow! 🎸 ♥ 9:12pm
Austin Rich:

↳ JM in Texas @9:11

When JM shows up, you know you're onto the right party. 🎸 ♥ 9:12pm
Austin Rich:

↳ postconsumer @9:11

postconsumer! Thanks for the great show from The Wiggle Room. 9:13pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Song: "Mystery Man" by "Todd Andrews"

I am not sure why info is missing.

this is the source:

tpos1.bandcamp.com...

9:13pm
postconsumer: the first quarter hour has been startlingly good. have fun! 🎸 ♥ 9:14pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:13

Ahhh. That image didn't have other info on it, so I couldn't connect it with a song. 9:14pm
JM in Texas:

↳ Austin Rich @9:12

Thx, Austin - hope the summer has been treating you well! 9:14pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ postconsumer @9:13

Thank you for sticking around! Have a great night! 9:15pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @9:14

It does for me, when I look in the playlist file. Fishy... 9:15pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ JM in Texas @9:14

Hi JM! 🎸 ♥ 9:15pm
Austin Rich:

↳ JM in Texas @9:14

I'm hanging in there. It's been a terrible year so far. 9:15pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Bandit @9:12

Thank you! 9:16pm
JM in Texas:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:15

Hello 9:18pm
Geoff-U:

↳ Austin Rich @9:15

Sorry to hear that, Austin. If there's anything I can do, just say the word, of course. 9:19pm
Geoff-U: You can also say a series of words, that often works better to convey information 🎸 ♥ 9:19pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:15

It just says, "Song Poem Insanity," on the file. I didn't realize that "Mystery Man" track was a song poem. 9:19pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @9:15

I wish I could help! I appreciate your service to the nation! And to the outer regions! 9:19pm
JM in Texas:

↳ Austin Rich @9:15

Sorry to hear that, hate that you’ve been dealing with stuff……stay positive and keep moving forward! 🎸 ♥ 9:20pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Geoff-U @9:19

For sure. I probably have to go back to Corvallis soon, so hopefully we can meet up again. 🎸 ♥ 9:20pm
Bandit:

↳ Geoff-U @9:19

Ahhh but I wanted a peanut :( '20 dollars can get you many peanuts!' EXPLAin! ' Money is used for goods and services" 🎸 ♥ 9:21pm
Bandit:

↳ Geoff-U @9:18

Jokes aside, I second this 9:21pm
Geoff-U:

↳ Bandit @9:20

Hahah... I know that reference :) 9:21pm
Geoff-U: Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-Tip! 9:22pm
Imaginos:

↳ Geoff-U @9:21

I think he’s been watching too much Freddy 🎸 ♥ 9:23pm
Bandit:

↳ Geoff-U @9:21

Simpson; Homer Simpson, he's the greatest guy in history!! From the, TOWN OF SPRINGFIELD he's about to hit a chestnut tree! *Homer scream* 🎸 ♥ 9:23pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "Sound-Magic's Death Ray Destroys The Vortex And H...

I'll have to investigate. I don't know this group, but I quite like this.   9:24pm
Rob Marvin:

↳ Austin Rich @9:04

Happy to be back 9:24pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Rob Marvin @9:24

How was your trip to the grocery store? 9:24pm
JM in Texas: Was it my imagination or did I see Andrew Liles mentioned……love me some MonsterLiles 🔥 9:24pm
Mr. X:

↳ Song: "Sound-Magic's Death Ray Destroys The Vortex And H...

Does anti-matter go backwards in time? 🎸 ♥ 9:25pm
Austin Rich:

↳ JM in Texas @9:24

There was. Some of the previous VO music was his. 9:25pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ JM in Texas @9:24

Yes, he is in the background, for now! A release that he did dedicated to his lost wisdom tooth! And he sold his wisdom tooth in a little jewelry box, silent bidding war. 🎸 ♥ 9:26pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Mr. X @9:24

I think so? I'll have to brush up on my quantum mechanics... 9:28pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @9:26

I have emailed you a current playlist. Seems like you might still have one from before it was fully formed? 🎸 ♥ 9:28pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "Bruises On All My Illusions" by "Soft Cell"

I have NEVER heard this Soft Cell song. And now that I think about it, I don't know many of their songs. Interesting...   9:29pm
Rob Marvin:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:24

They’re out of broccoli and the orange juice I wanted, but I’m making due. Got a mile walk home so I’ll still be with ya a bit 🎸 ♥ 9:29pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:28

I'll take a look after the show. I can't really load that up until later. 9:29pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @9:23

There has been ongoing discussion about Krautrock and how it became a big umbrella such as "The New York scene" or whatever, and what Krautrock actually signifies, but I like NEU and I want to hear more of that kind of style! 9:30pm
Mr. X:

↳ Austin Rich @9:26

When I was a kid, one of the neighbor kids liked to asked profound philosophical questions, such as "Do stars have boogers?" 9:30pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Rob Marvin @9:29

right on! 9:31pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Song: "No Tears (ADULT. Remix)" by "Tuxedomoon"

This was a regular when I would DJ goth events. 🎸 ♥ 9:31pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:29

I agree, the "Krautrock" label has started to include bands and music that are from Vermont, last year. It sort of confuses me. I'm similarly confused by "Goth" being used to describe songs by band that have one bridge in a minor key. 9:31pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @9:28

Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret is essential to me. I still like their latter work, but that one is hard to beat. 9:31pm
Mr. X:

↳ Song: "No Tears (ADULT. Remix)" by "Tuxedomoon"

I'm quite fond of Tuxedomoon. But I've not heard this version before. The original version is pretty lo fi, so this is nice to hear. 🎸 ♥ 9:32pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Mr. X @9:30

Oh yeah. That's one of those questions we'll be pondering for decades. 🎸 ♥ 9:32pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:31

Noted! 🎸 ♥ 9:32pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Mr. X @9:31

Yeah, they have a very solid output. 9:34pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Mr. X @9:31

I like the original, but I'd have to say that I prefer this one, as a huge fan of ADULT. and also a fan of Tuxedomoon. I've seen ADULT. perform this track live more than once. 9:34pm
JM in Texas:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:25

Reminds me of the two grams of Donald S. Joyce’s (2/9/44 - 7/22/15) remains that came in a tiny ziploc bag that accompanied the Negativland CD, The Chopping Channel……very unique 😬 9:35pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ JM in Texas @9:34

I used to own that CD with the ashes, donated it to WZRD before I moved. 9:35pm
Mr. X:

↳ JM in Texas @9:34

Holy crap, is that even legal?! 🎸 ♥ 9:36pm
Austin Rich:

↳ JM in Texas @9:34

As an obsessive Don mega-fan, I regret not buying that at the time. I was SUPER-broke, and couldn't afford the CD at the time... and now they are impossible to find. Some of them also came with Cart Tapes from his personal collection, too. I should have got one. 9:36pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Song: "What Goes Around Comes Around" by "Giggles"

I used to talk to Giggles on facebook a bit. I had this single on cassette when I was about 10 years old. Bought it at the mix shop. 9:37pm
Mr. X:

↳ Austin Rich @9:36

We still need to find you a cart player. 🎸 ♥ 9:37pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:36

I've never heard of this group / song before. I feel like I should have heard it before now... 9:38pm
Imaginos: Getting sleepy but the show is awesome 9:38pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @9:37

It's a staple of "Latin Freestyle" as a genre. So that would be a good signifier if you were ever curious. 🎸 ♥ 9:38pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Mr. X @9:37

I don't really have any carts, so I wouldn't have much use for one now. And I'd need to really invest in a lot of gear to start cutting / making my own.

But I HAVE thought about it...

🎸 ♥ 9:38pm
Bandit:

↳ Austin Rich @9:36

Is the Negativeland documentary back up somewhere that is viewable? I know it wasn't streaming anywhere and you couldn't buy it physically either. 9:38pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Imaginos @9:38

Thank you! Sleep well! 🎸 ♥ 9:38pm
Bandit:

↳ Mr. X @9:37

A four track player right? 9:38pm
Imaginos:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:38

Thank you 🎸 ♥ 9:39pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Bandit @9:38

Hmmmmm. Good question. They were taking it on tour for a while. I wonder if there are plans to put it on a disc / make it downloadable...? 9:40pm
Mr. X:

↳ Bandit @9:38

I guess. I don't know the technical details. I just remember when I was moonlighting as a DJ in '95 the studio had a cart machine and a bunch of carts that we had to use for playing the PSAs. 9:40pm
JM in Texas:

↳ Mr. X @9:35

Legal, great question? But it’s my understanding that Mr. Joyce was part of deciding on how to dispose of his ashes.

Now that I think about it, you can purchase tiny glass sealed vases to put ashes in and wear on a necklace around your neck.

🎸 ♥ 9:41pm
Bandit:

↳ JM in Texas @9:40

Slightly off topic but I have told my parents straight up that they are being put in one of those urns that turns into a tree 9:41pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ JM in Texas @9:40

I'm sure I don't have to tell you, but it's worth noting that one could have their ashes pressed into a vinyl record if one wished... 🎸 ♥ 9:42pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Bandit @9:38

A Four Track would be more for recording / mixing. A Cart Player plays tapes that sort of look like 8-Tracks, but are just for recording stereo recordings, in a loop, of any length. A "beep" would indicate to the machine that it should stop playing, so it didn't loop infinitely. Or, you could take out the beep, and have it loop on purpose. 🎸 ♥ 9:43pm
Austin Rich: Bandit: On the subject of the Negativland Documentary, it seems to be on YouTube. Both of them! Here's the one that the band toured:

youtu.be...

🎸 ♥ 9:43pm
Bandit:

↳ Austin Rich @9:42

There is a scene in "The Myst" that shows the female lead who is a radio DJ listening to promos on those type of tapes! 9:44pm
Mr. X:

↳ JM in Texas @9:40

I guess if they can shoot peoples ashes off into space, they can mail 'em to random customers if they want. I love the scene in Big Lebowski where they are trying to scatter Donny's ashes into the sea, and they just blow back and the Dude gets them all over himself. 🎸 ♥ 9:45pm
Austin Rich: Here's another Negativland Documentary, that features interviews with Don Haugen and... Austin Rich? That can't be right...

youtu.be...

🎸 ♥ 9:45pm
Bandit:

↳ Austin Rich @9:45

I know what I am watching this weekend! 9:46pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Mr. X @9:44

The Big Lebowski is one of the rare movies that I know by heart. I do not care for comedies, but that one is special. 9:47pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @9:45

News to me! 9:48pm
Arvo Zylo: "Everything's a fuckin' travesty with you, man! And what was all that shit about Vietnam? What the fuck has anything got to do with Vietnam? What the fuck are you talking about?" 🎸 ♥ 9:49pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Austin Rich @9:45

The director of this documentary - William Davenport / The Problemist - followed Negativland on their "True / False" tour, and filmed the last days of Richard in the hospital, among other things. William made his documentary, which had interviews with me and Don and others, and then gave all the footage to Ryan Worsley, who was working on the official documentary. I don't think she used any of the interviews that William shot, but she used some of his footage in other scenes. 9:49pm
JM in Texas:

↳ Mr. X @9:44

I’ve personally known people who had that play out in real life. Once was down at the beach and they waded out about knee deep and the three siblings were going to toss handfuls of mom into the ocean……only to have a gust of wind blow mom back on them 🤦‍♂️ 9:49pm
Mr. X:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:46

I've gotten in trouble at work for quoting The Big Lebowski at inappropriate times. ("Shut up, Donny.") ♥ 9:50pm
Hunterian:

↳ Song: "Sleep" by "KMFDM"

Oooohhh yes…und guten Abend, DJ Arvo 9:50pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Mr. X @9:49

"You human paraquat!" 9:50pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Hunterian @9:50

Danke Schoen! This is one of my favorite uses of Japanese Koto drumming! 9:51pm
JM in Texas:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:41

Did you know that human ashes can be mixed with ink and used in tattoos 👻 9:51pm
Mr. X:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:50

As I understand it, that was one of the only ad libbed lines in the whole movie. 9:52pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ JM in Texas @9:51

Seems like an allergic reaction or a haunting waiting to happen! 🎸 ♥ 9:52pm
Austin Rich: Since Lebowski is the subject at hand, I just sampled some bits from that movie about phones, in particular, the bit where The Dude's "cell phone" is ringing, and Donny says, "Phone's Ringin', Dude." It will appear before a song I wrote about wishing everyone would smash their phones. ♥ 9:52pm
das ubuibi: Hiho all !! 9:53pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ das ubuibi @9:52

hey hey hey! 🎸 ♥ 9:53pm
Austin Rich:

↳ das ubuibi @9:52

das! We were listening to Tuxedomoon earlier. I suspect you have some good stories about them! 🎸 ♥ 9:53pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "Lazy London Lady" by "Change"

Oh, damn. I don't know this group, but I'm loving this song. 9:54pm
JM in Texas:

↳ Austin Rich @9:49

Austin, didn’t you interview William Davenport back during the KMUZ days? If not William, I’m 99% sure it was a Davenport?? 9:54pm
Arvo Zylo: I am remembering a Rob Zombie movie where a haunted record is played on the radio. I'm also remembering an episode of Night Gallery where a werewolf man emulating Wolfman Jack was on the radio. 🎸 ♥ 9:54pm
Austin Rich:

↳ JM in Texas @9:54

I did! And I interviewed him again, on this show, on Sheena's, when he was playing drums in a punk band with some 20 year olds. 9:54pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @9:53

This whole comp is great. 🎸 ♥ 9:55pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:54

Hmmmmm. Thanks for the tip! 🎸 ♥ 9:55pm
Bandit:

↳ Austin Rich @9:49

What did you talk about? I assume Negativeland/ Over The Edge 9:55pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ JM in Texas @9:54

William interviewed me for one of his noise documentaries in Florida, nice guy. 🎸 ♥ 9:57pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Bandit @9:55

Yeah. William interviewed me for about an hour, but I think I'm only in the film for a few minutes total, and he only uses bits where I'm talking about their records.

Apparently, I have a reputation for being a bit of a fan.

9:57pm
postconsumer:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:54

What were the movies called? That sounds interesting... 🎸 ♥ 9:57pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:55

I suspect I've seen it, as I watched most of his movies when I worked for him. I'll have to dig around on his YouTube channel. 9:58pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ postconsumer @9:57

I don't remember. It was bad, but I did play the aforementioned segment on the radio. 🎸 ♥ 9:58pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "Dog Eats Dog" by "Mint"

Wait a minute... did I get some files confused? Is this the right cover, Arvo? 9:59pm
postconsumer: The Lords of Salem (2012) 9:59pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Song: "Dog Eats Dog" by "Mint"

This is also from All The Young Droogs comp 🎸 ♥ 10:02pm
Austin Rich: William Davenport - the gent who had me and Arvo in different movies - made a lot of different films about 'zines, tape traders, noise, and all sorts of stuff. You can find most of his movies on his YouTube Channel:

youtube.com...

10:03pm
JM in Texas:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:55

Like Austin, I’ll be digging around William’s YouTube looking for that. ♥ 10:03pm
das ubuibi:

↳ Austin Rich @10:02

booked the Problemists a couple times in S.F. 10:03pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @10:02

He was also the main editor of Unsound, a zine from the '80s, and member of "Problemist", when I met him I had already heard Problemist tapes at WZRD... 10:04pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ das ubuibi @10:03

Jinkx! 10:04pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Song: "Help Me Mama (I'm In Love With A Llama)" by "Harpo"

got problems but at least I ain't in love with a llama. 🎸 ♥ 10:05pm
Austin Rich: Yeah, I worked for William for a while. I have a bunch of recordings of us working on songs together, planning a tour that never happened due to covid. I have a full set of Unsound issues now, thanks to him. (He gifted me at lot of stuff when we worked together.) ♥ 10:05pm
David Shortell:

↳ Song: "Kiss Me Stupid" by "Smersh"

The first American movie to be condemned by the Roman Catholic Legion of Decency since Elia Kazan's "Baby Doll":
medium.com... 🎸 ♥ 10:06pm
Bandit:

↳ JM in Texas @10:03

Here is a playlist of his Docus
www.youtube.com... 🎸 ♥ 10:07pm
Austin Rich: Here's the film with Arvo:

youtu.be...

🎸 ♥ 10:08pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Austin Rich @10:07

"This film features two days at the Saint Pete Noise Festival of 2013. Some of the musicians featured are Hal McGee, Arvo Zylo, Ironing, Trotsky's Watercolor, La Funcion de Repulsa, J.Thelonious." 🎸 ♥ 10:08pm
Austin Rich:

↳ David Shortell @10:05

Interesting. I'll have to read that. 🎸 ♥ 10:09pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Austin Rich @10:08

I'm a huge Ironing fan. His stuff is nearly flawless. 10:09pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @10:08

Sharlyn Evertsz was the highlight of that fest for me, and I played after her.

i came up to her like, damn, you gonna make me follow that? She was supposed to play earlier but locked her keys in her car...

10:11pm
JM in Texas:

↳ Bandit @10:06

Thank You Mr. Bandit!!! 🎸 ♥ 10:11pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:09

I feel like something similar has happened to me at every Noise Fest I've played. I have to follow someone good? Damn... 🎸 ♥ 10:12pm
Bandit:

↳ JM in Texas @10:11

Its just Bandit, Mister Bandit was my father xD   10:13pm
avspuk:

↳ Song: "God's Zoo" by "Death Cult"

& before death cult they were Southern Death Cult.

The Fall's Marc Riley & Billy Duffy knew each other as kids & would bump into each other as the climbed the rock & roll ladder, one week in NYC m, the next at a Manc suburban bus stop

🎸 ♥ 10:14pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Bandit @10:12

Is that how you refer to Burt Reynolds? 10:15pm
Arvo Zylo: I just want to publicly thank Tony Coulter for airing a track by Blood Rhythms, specifically a track that has Austin's voice on it. It also has Heather Z's voice on it, and many others, including Little Fyodor, Hal McGee, Mike Watt, Dave Phillips, and others.

wfmu.org...

🎸 ♥ 10:15pm
Bandit:

↳ Austin Rich @10:14

You're funny xD 10:15pm
Mr. X:

↳ Austin Rich @10:14

I've been known to get Burt Lancaster and Burt Reynolds mixed up. 🎸 ♥ 10:15pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "Working Class Hero" by "Jerry Williams"

I just watched the movie, "Manhunter" not long ago, and this song really should have been in the movie. 🎸 ♥ 10:15pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:15

Oh, damn! I'll have to listen to that. 🎸 ♥ 10:16pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Mr. X @10:15

Wait: they're different people? Huh. That might explain some things... 10:16pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @10:15

Nice! I can't disagree! I haven't seen that one in about five years, but I can't argue, from what I remember! 🎸 ♥ 10:17pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:16

That movie is better than I thought it would be. I really liked it, and the music was fantastic. (Save for one very obvious inclusion that feels like it might have been "what they could afford." But I digress...) 10:17pm
JM in Texas:

↳ Bandit @10:12

Respect 🫡 10:18pm
Arvo Zylo: I used to do shows fairly often with a one man band called "Mosquito Bandito". He was great. 10:19pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Song: "Simple Man" by "Lobo"

I was gonna do a yacht rock set but I decided against it. 🎸 ♥ 10:20pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:19

Thank you. 10:20pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @10:17

The Hannibal series was pretty great once you got past the first few episodes. Initially there were problems with believability but after that it was a lot of murders that seemingly integrated a knowledge of art history, and that was enough for me. 🎸 ♥ 10:21pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "Simple Man" by "Deftones"

This is the first time in my radio career that I have played either Lobo or Deftones on the radio. 🎸 ♥ 10:22pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:20

I'm not sure I'm interested in the series, but that first movie was REALLY well done, and on a budget, too. (When you look at it, MOST of the movie is dialog and music. It's pretty good filmmaking.) 10:23pm
Mr. X:

↳ Austin Rich @10:21

I was gonna say... Lobo on Mid-Valley Mutations? But that's encouraging for some things that I was planning to play. 10:23pm
Arvo Zylo: The last time I was on a plane, I was sitting next to a monastic Catholic priest from France. He listened to "Free Bird" on his headphones. He asked me what movies he should watch on the little screens that were mounted to the back of the seats. I suggested "Seven" if he can deal with ethical matters. He said he enjoyed the film. 🎸 ♥ 10:23pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Mr. X @10:23

Oh no! What have I unleashed! 10:24pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @10:22

There is a version of that first book also called "The Red Dragon" if I'm not mistaken, featuring Anthony Hopkins, but predating Silence of The Lambs. I still need to read the books, but I own them. 🎸 ♥ 10:24pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Mr. X @10:23

On that subject: if all goes well, in two weeks we will have an all Mr. X show, programmed and hosted by Mr. X. I'm looking forward to it; he often turns me onto stuff I didn't know. ♥ 10:25pm
David Shortell:

↳ Arvo Zylo @9:46

I thought it was too soon for the Coen Brothers to make another kidnapping movie just 2 years after "Fargo". 🎸 ♥ 10:26pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:24

That's what my partner said. (She's a big fan of all those movies and books and shows.) There's something about the look and style of Manhunter that doesn't even make it that gruesome, but there are a few scenes that are pretty intense. Manhunter rules. Two Thumbs up from Austin. 10:26pm
Arvo Zylo: My concept of "thematic" and "freeform" is apparently different from others. I like free association anchored by a certain sensibility that I'd rather not try to pin down into words. 10:27pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ David Shortell @10:25

I enjoyed Fargo, but I didn't see it when it came out. I saw it on cable at some point. 10:27pm
JM in Texas:

↳ Austin Rich @10:21

My first time hearing the Deftones cover. 10:28pm
Mr. X:

↳ Austin Rich @10:24

Thanks Austin! It should be a lot of fun! Hint: two tunes by David Thomas! 🎸 ♥ 10:28pm
Austin Rich:

↳ David Shortell @10:25

I think each Coen Brothers movie is pretty different, even when they use some of the same themes. They rarely disappoint for me, but I'm also pretty forgiving. Turns out I like well made movies! 🎸 ♥ 10:29pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:27

I really like Fargo, and it's got things in it that aren't really in their other movies. I've been sort of curious about the TV show, but I'm not sure about the time commitment. 🎸 ♥ 10:29pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "Hand of Doom" by "Danzig"

Hurm. 10:29pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Song: "Hand of Doom" by "Danzig"

I worked at a used CD store in the '90s, and so I have a knowledge of certain things that I wouldn't notice otherwise. This one was released by Disney's "Hollywood" label, and was not promoted once they realized that Danzig was not Disney material. They did the same thing to Insane Clown Posse. 🎸 ♥ 10:30pm
Bandit:

↳ Song: "Changes" by "Gamma Ray"

Now that is an album cover ♥ 10:30pm
David Shortell:

↳ JM in Texas @9:49

Then there's the time Sid Vicious's mom brought her son's ashes back to England.
The urn slipped from her hands at Heathrow Airport and Sid blew away. 🎸 ♥ 10:30pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:29

And to the Dead Milkmen, who had an album on Hollywood, and it was not promoted, and they were promised "The Moon" by the label. Most people don't even know that Milkmen album, as a result. 10:31pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @10:29

I am not a great binge watcher either. I did watch

"SOMETHING VERY BAD IS GOING TO HAPPEN"

and it is an 8 episode series based around the anxieties of commuting to marriage...

10:31pm
Mr. X:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:29

We have plans afoot for a Mutations Disney parody as well. 10:31pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Bandit @10:30

Innit? 🎸 ♥ 10:32pm
Austin Rich:

↳ David Shortell @10:30

This is probably not supposed to be funny, but reading this made me laugh.

"There goes Sid..."

10:32pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @10:30

I had most Dead Milkmen stuff from that same used CD store, but do not remember what label any of their stuff was on. 10:33pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Mr. X @10:31

I will be in attendance! 🎸 ♥ 10:34pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:31

I find a lot of the pacing and style of modern TV not really for me. Meanwhile: I have the Moonlighting DVD set, and I just got another season of The Rockford Files to plow through.

Most of the old Philip Marlowe adaptations have been good... haven't seen any modern ones.

10:34pm
Arvo Zylo: "a modest receptacle" 10:34pm
JM in Texas:

↳ David Shortell @10:30

I had not heard this story, thx for sharing 😮 🎸 ♥ 10:35pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "Changes" by "Gamma Ray"

Damn, I thought I knew all the cheesy hard rock bands from back in the day. Clearly I was wrong, as I didn't know that song at all. 10:35pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @10:34

I have been watching a lot of old experimental films, partly because they are short.

For example, "Berlin Horse" is a short film from 1970 that features early guitar loop sounds from Brian Eno.

🎸 ♥ 10:36pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:35

Oh, interesting. I bet I would love that. 10:36pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @10:35

Kind of a side project. 10:36pm
JM in Texas: YES -it did sound a lot like Victim Of Changes!!! 🎸 ♥ 10:37pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "Hand of Doom" by "Danzig"

I really love the first two Danzig records, and scattered tunes from his later records. But I feel like Danzig drops off in quality pretty quickly, unfortunately. 10:38pm
Arvo Zylo: I don't like new country, modern R & B, most emo or indie rock, and a lot of current pop, but other than that, I cast a pretty wide net. 🎸 ♥ 10:38pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "Muhammed Ali & The Crickets" by "Alan Licht"

Those New York minutes are faster than your regular minute. ♥ 10:39pm
David Shortell:

↳ Austin Rich @10:28

Today is Bloomsday, a good excuse to rewatch "O Brother, Where Art Thou?"---based, like Joyce's "Ulysses", on Homer's "The Odyssey".
(Christopher Nolan's movie "The Odyssey" hits theaters next month.) 🎸 ♥ 10:39pm
Austin Rich:

↳ David Shortell @10:39

Before Arvo and I settled on this date, I almost scheduled a Bloomsday show. 10:40pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @10:37

Danzig called me a freak at an autograph signing in 1999, and he was really appalled by my appearance, so I didn't pay attention to him for decades, and I never really liked the song "Mother", but eventually I came around. Out of honest practicality, the music helped during hard times, despite the often disagreeable nature of it. 🎸 ♥ 10:40pm
Bandit: I gotta head out for the night. Great show Arvo! Ill have to listen to the rest at work in the morning! Also Austin, when you get a chance check out those brainstorm ideas I put down in the google doc! 10:41pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Bandit @10:40

Thank you for listening! Have a great night! 10:41pm
Mr. X:

↳ David Shortell @10:39

When my dad was on sabbatical, he and my mom did the Bloomsday tour in Dublin. 🎸 ♥ 10:41pm
Austin Rich:

↳ David Shortell @10:39

I will say - and I am a nerd that REALLY loves the Odyssey - that "O Brother" was EXCELLENT. (And it riffs on a lot of other film in fun ways.) It's certainly the most fun adaptation of The Odyssey I've ever seen. 🎸 ♥ 10:41pm
Bandit:

↳ Austin Rich @10:39

I still need to read that Ulysses 🎸 ♥ 10:41pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Bandit @10:40

Sleep well, Bandit! We'll work on a show, soon. 🎸 ♥ 10:42pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "Muhammed Ali & The Crickets" by "Alan Licht"

Damn, this song rules. 10:42pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @10:41

I own the portable James Joyce, which has a fraction of Ulysses in it, but haven't read it yet. I have a serious addiction to buying more books than I can read. ♥ 10:42pm
David Shortell:

↳ Austin Rich @10:41

I remember the two-part 1997 NBC-TV movie "The Odyssey". Not great, but it was good to see Michael J. Pollard as the wind god Aeolus. 🎸 ♥ 10:44pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:42

I've never ready Ulysses, but I have been told I should.

I've read a few translations of The Odyssey, but the one by Robert Fitzgerald is the most enjoyable, as a story and a poem. And I'm a sucker for Greek Adventure stories, in book or film.

🎸 ♥ 10:44pm
Austin Rich:

↳ David Shortell @10:42

Hmmmmm... I'll have to re-visit that. I don't really remmber it at all. 🎸 ♥ 10:44pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "Martin Scorsese" by "King Missile"

A bit of a change of pace. 10:45pm
Mr. X:

↳ Austin Rich @10:23

Don't worry, there will be no Eagles, Chicago, Santana, Beatles, Grateful Dead or Steely Dan. 🎸 ♥ 10:45pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Mr. X @10:45

Thank you. 10:46pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Mr. X @10:45

The only Steely Dan I ever played on the radio was actually a mash up of Steely Dan and Danzig called "Steely Danzig", something between "Mother" and "Dirty Work". 🎸 ♥ 10:46pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "Martin Scorsese" by "King Missile"

There is a very hilarious radio edit of this song, with a different vocal take by John S. Hall, that changes the lyrics to something radio friendly. It's funnier, in some ways. 🎸 ♥ 10:46pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "My T.V. Is Watchin' Me" by "Mojo Nixon"

I miss you, Mojo. 10:47pm
Mr. X:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:46

Nice. 10:47pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @10:46

Always wanted to play this on the radio. I've played swearing on the radio before, but this one was a bit too abusive. 🎸 ♥ 10:48pm
Austin Rich: In theory, I like Steely Dan. You read about them on paper, and it sounds like a good idea for a band. But the songs are just dreadful... couldn't they play better music? I just don't know how they got to that kind of music with those kinds of ideas / lyrics. 10:48pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @10:46

I realized I had never played anything with Mojo except his CD with Jello.

Incidentally, Little Fyodor opened for Mojo Nixon once.

I figured if I didn't play Mojo Nixon, my set could use some fixin'...

🎸 ♥ 10:49pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:48

Mojo was the best. His albums hold up! I wish I'd seen him when he was around. Oh well. 🎸 ♥ 10:50pm
Austin Rich: Little Fyodor sent me some Birthday Wishes this year. That was very nice. He's the best. 10:51pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Mr. X @10:45

I have played Chicago Transit Authority's "Freeform Guitar" on the radio. I have played The Beatles (Octopus' Garden) and Revolution 9 on the radio. I haven't played The Eagles on the radio, but I would. I have worked their concerts, everyone goes to the bathroom after Hotel California.

"Friend of The Devil" is the only Grateful Dead song that I unironically enjoy.

10:53pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Song: "Jolly Roger in Donkeytown" by "Lance Gargoyle"

RRRECORDS released a seven inch of Lance Gargoyle stuff. So far the greatest I've heard is on youtube, especially "Monster Rock" 🎸 ♥ 10:53pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:51

There's something about that soft rock / soft country / jam band kind of music (Eagles / Santana / Dead) that I just can't get into. I'd rather listen to the Flying Burrito Brothers, which I think do that kind of music well. (Even Tom Petty is MUCH better to my ears.) ♥ 10:53pm
David Shortell:

↳ Austin Rich @10:44

I've only read David Lasky's 1992 mini-comic version:
www.patreon.com...

Today I discovered "Ulysses for Dummies":
www.yogaliecht.ch...

10:54pm
Mr. X:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:51

Actually, I think it's Mr. Fab who has the thing against The Eagles. I think even Austin likes their "Journey of a Sorcerer," which was used for the Hitchhiker's Guide theme. 🎸 ♥ 10:54pm
Austin Rich:

↳ David Shortell @10:53

Interesting! I'll have to check those out. 10:55pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @10:53

Generally i'd agree, except that I always look for exceptions to the rule, to my tastes anyway. 🎸 ♥ 10:55pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Mr. X @10:54

Hmmmm, maybe? I've only every heard him complain about The Smith, Morrissey, and "Indie Rock." Maybe he doesn't like The Eagles, but I don't recall anything specific. 10:56pm
Mr. X:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:51

Chicago's Terry Kath was an awesome guitarist. I was so depressed when he accidentally shot himself. 🎸 ♥ 10:56pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Mr. X @10:54

I do give The Eagles "Journey of The Sorcerer" a pass, only when I listen to those Hitchhiker's recordings. ♥ 10:56pm
David Shortell:

↳ Austin Rich @10:49

Apropos to the Eagles discussion, I like his "Don Henley Must Die". 10:56pm
Arvo Zylo: "Witchy Woman" is a song that I like by The Eagles. 🎸 ♥ 10:56pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "Jolly Roger in Donkeytown" by "Lance Gargoyle"

I quite liked that, too! 🎸 ♥ 10:57pm
Austin Rich:

↳ David Shortell @10:56

YES! I think about that song more than I should. 10:58pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @10:55

I do not care for The Smiths or Morrissey. I have tried. 10:58pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Mr. X @10:56

I did not know about that! 10:58pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @10:56

Glad you dug it! 🎸 ♥ 10:59pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:58

I tried, too. (More with the Smiths than with Morrissey.) There's some sounds on the guitar I don't mind, but their songs are just not that good. "How Soon Is Now?" is probably their best song, and it doesn't sound anything like the rest of their material. ♥ 10:59pm
David Shortell:

↳ Austin Rich @10:57

I saw him play it live. When his pianist interrupted the song by breaking into "Desperado", Mojo pretended to murder him with a prop-axe. 10:59pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ David Shortell @10:59

Ha! 🎸 ♥ 11:00pm
Austin Rich:

↳ David Shortell @10:59

Oh, shit! That's amazing. 11:00pm
Mr. X:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:58

He was trying to prove to some friends that there were no bullets in the chamber, so he pointed it at himself and pulled the trigger. 🎸 ♥ 11:01pm
Austin Rich: I recently inherited a small, LPFM transmitter, that I have yet to put to the test. I'm wondering what kind of trouble I could get into with it... 11:01pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Mr. X @11:00

:-( 11:04pm
Mr. X:

↳ Austin Rich @11:01

If your neighbor with the flags on his pick-up listens to FM, plenty! 11:04pm
JM in Texas: Great show tonight, hope everyone has a great week!!! 11:05pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ JM in Texas @11:04

Thanks JM! Have a good night at work! 🎸 ♥ 11:05pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Mr. X @11:04

I'm probably not really in a position where I could get in legal trouble, as Trump as really scaled back the FCC in terms of resources. Regardless, I should probably not really announce my broadcasts, and I probably shouldn't do it in a way that could get WFMU in trouble. I need to think about how to use it. 11:07pm
Mr. X:

↳ Austin Rich @11:05

How many watts? ♥ 11:07pm
David Shortell:

↳ Arvo Zylo @10:58

How about The Snuffs, led by Quilloughby?
www.youtube.com... 11:08pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ David Shortell @11:07

I will have to check it out! I do not recall knowing about it! 🎸 ♥ 11:09pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Mr. X @11:07

I don't know! It's a CZE-5C, and I need to research it and find out what it can do. I suspect it doesn't not have much power. 11:09pm
Mr. X:

↳ Song: "Any Other Way" by "Jackie Shane"

Another amazing Numero Group find. 🎸 ♥ 11:10pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "Any Other Way" by "Jackie Shane"

One of the first trans performers. ♥ 11:10pm
David Shortell:

↳ Arvo Zylo @11:08

Morrissey was furious about that episode. 🎸 ♥ 11:10pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Austin Rich @11:09

Oh! I just googled it: 5 Watts. 11:10pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Mr. X @11:09

Agreed! I seem to play at least one thing from NG per DJ set. 🎸 ♥ 11:11pm
Austin Rich:

↳ David Shortell @11:07

I heard it is very funny. I need to see that. 11:11pm
Arvo Zylo: Numero Group CDs were plentiful at WLUW when I was there, being that they're from Chicago. 🎸 ♥ 11:12pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @11:11

Mr. X wrote the liner notes for a Eugene-centric Numero Group release. 11:12pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Song: "Long, Long Winter" by "The Impressions"

Speaking of Chicago, one of my favorite songs by The Impressions. 11:12pm
Mr. X:

↳ Austin Rich @11:10

I remember KRRC was only 10 watts, and it barely covered the Reed campus. So with 5, maybe one square block? 11:13pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @11:12

Excellent! 11:13pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Song: "Gone For Good" by "Wendy Rene"

Easily my favorite soul singer. 🎸 ♥ 11:15pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Mr. X @11:12

Reading up on it, a two mile radius is realistic, five probably at the upper range on good days. If I could mount it on top of a very tall building and add a stronger antennae, I could probably another miles or so. But I have a feeling two miles might be the most I could get, realistically, without going all-in on radio gear. 11:18pm
Mr. X:

↳ Austin Rich @11:15

Watch out, 1/16th of Salem! 11:20pm
Mr. X:

↳ Mr. X @11:18

Reminds me of when Herman Munster got into ham radio, and the neighborhood kids on walkie-talkies fooled him into thinking there was an invasion from Mars going on. 11:21pm
Arvo Zylo: I always wanted to mess with shortwave radios, but it was not to be. Never enough space. 🎸 ♥ 11:21pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Mr. X @11:20

I forgot about that one! We have the Munsters DVD boxed set, but I haven't finished watching it yet. I should sample that one... 11:22pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @11:21

I had that box set, it's a beauty, and much better than the Addams Family box set, by comparison. 11:22pm
Mr. X:

↳ Austin Rich @11:21

I've been watching it lately. But only to prove to myself that the Addams Family was better. 11:23pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Mr. X @11:22

I like to think of them as branches of the same bountiful tree. 11:24pm
Mr. X:

↳ Arvo Zylo @11:23

That's the diplomatic position to take, for sure. 🎸 ♥ 11:25pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "I've Been Down So Long (It Looks Like Up To Me)" ...

I just priced / put out a copy of this record TODAY, at our store. 11:26pm
Mr. X:

↳ Arvo Zylo @11:23

It's funny, all the similarities between them, actually. Clearly they were watching the competition and not ashamed to steal ideas. 11:26pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Mr. X @11:22

I grew up watching reruns of both, and so did my friend in Croatia! Mister Ed was cool, but I have no recollection of any enthusiasm regarding Leave It To Beaver or The Brady Bunch or anything else. I ultimately just want to live in one of these old mansions. I am watching a silent film "The Bat" recently and also "Vampyr" and I've decided that I just want to live in those movies, bats be damned. 11:27pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @11:25

It was a gift from my friend Dom, who performed as SIGULDA years ago. I always wanted to find it in a thrift store, but my friend found it for me! 🎸 ♥ 11:28pm
Austin Rich: I like both Addams Family and Munsters. But I'm a sucker for that kind of TV. 11:28pm
Mr. X:

↳ Arvo Zylo @11:26

They both had a huge impact on shattering the conventions of conformity, which I very much appreciate. 11:29pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Mr. X @11:26

I love that Charles Addams inspired the series just by making contrarian comics. I do not know that the origin story for The Munsters was so memorable, as a I recall, but I'm not complaining.

Ultimately, The Addams Family films that I did see in theaters, and did lead me to have an eternal crush on Wednesday/Christina Ricci (we are the same age) were preferable to any Munsters movie.

🎸 ♥ 11:30pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Song: "Long Gone" by "Neil Diamond"

In 2004 / 2005, a friend - Melanie - wanted to do a regular feature, called "Neil Diamond's Hour of Power." She was gonna come in once a month and play an hour of Neil Diamond. She did it exactly once, and never again. 11:31pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @11:30

I would have done something similar, except it's technically illegal to play more than 4 songs by any same artist in one hour. ♥ 11:32pm
David Shortell:

↳ Song: "I've Been Down So Long (It Looks Like Up To Me)" ...

Did Richard Fariña's 1966 novel inspire this song? 11:32pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @11:30

Not Neil Diamond, though. 🎸 ♥ 11:34pm
Austin Rich: I have been told this, but I'm not sure that is actually true. A large number of FM stations play lots of shows all dedicated to one artist. There's a nationally syndicated "All Grateful Dead" show, and there are many shows that focus only on the Beatles for hours at a time. I suspect that it is a way that a lot of stations are prevented from playing whole album sides, which was a concern back in the 60's and 70's, but I wonder if it is actually law. 11:35pm
Arvo Zylo: I vaguely remember something about a lawsuit, perhaps involving The Talking Heads... 11:35pm
Mr. X:

↳ Austin Rich @11:34

I remember it was a rule on KMUZ which we broke when we played all those E-13 songs in a row. ♥ 11:36pm
David Shortell:

↳ Austin Rich @10:54

David Lasky has drawn other comics inspired by James Joyce.
Such as this biography traced over Jack Kirby pages (from the premiere Fantastic Four, Hulk and Thor stories):
archive.org... 🎸 ♥ 11:36pm
Austin Rich: Our show tonight will go over if we play it all. I'll have to cut it off at 9, for das and ninah. But I can upload an uncut version of the show to the archives afterwards. 🎸 ♥ 11:37pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Mr. X @11:35

Again, KMUZ used to tell us that was a rule, but I don't know if it was an ACTUAL law; I had MANY shows that featured all one artist for the whole two hours, and never got in trouble with anyone. ♥ 11:39pm
David Shortell:

↳ Song: "My Baby" by "Janis Joplin"

I dearly wish she wasn't cajoled into leaving Big Brother and the Holding Company. 🎸 ♥ 11:39pm
Austin Rich: I recall, as a staff member at many stations, we had to make up a lot more rules than there were actual laws, just to help keep in check the kinds of things that DJs would often try to do. It's hard to run a station that's open to the public. 🎸 ♥ 11:39pm
Austin Rich:

↳ David Shortell @11:39

I agree. 🎸 ♥ 11:41pm
Austin Rich:

↳ David Shortell @11:36

Woah. I need to look at that... 11:42pm
Arvo Zylo: I stand corrected:

"No, there is no federal law prohibiting terrestrial radio stations from playing more than four songs by the same artist per hour. The common misconception stems from copyright regulations that apply specifically to online webcasters and streaming services, not traditional AM/FM broadcasters. "

🎸 ♥ 11:43pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @11:42

Yeah, that seems right. 11:43pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Arvo Zylo @11:42

Presumably this would apply to radio stations that also stream, though, right? I mean, most of them do also stream now, don't they? 11:43pm
pxe: ahoy mateys 🎸 ♥ 11:44pm
Austin Rich: Whoops. We lost connection again. Sorry! 🎸 ♥ 11:44pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @11:43

As I understand the law, the FCC has no control over streaming content. They can only have an influence over terrestrial radio. 11:46pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @11:44

Yes, the restriction applies to the online stream, but not the over-the-air signal.

When a terrestrial radio station simulcasts its broadcast online, the digital transmission is legally distinct from the analog radio wave. To qualify for the statutory license required to stream music legally, the online portion of the broadcast must comply with the sound recording performance complement rules (no more than 4 songs by the same artist in a 3-hour period).

Dual Compliance: Stations simulcasting online often program their playlists to satisfy the stricter digital rules for both feeds to avoid the logistical complexity of maintaining two separate schedules.
Legal Risk: If a station plays an artist five times in an hour on their terrestrial frequency (which is legal) and streams that same hour online, they are violating federal copyright law for the webcast portion of the transmission. This exposes the station to potential liability from SoundExchange or copyright holders for the digital performance.
Exemptions: Some stations have historically negotiated specific settlements or licenses that may alter these requirements, but the default federal rule mandates compliance for the digital stream.

11:48pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ pxe @11:43

Hello!. 🎸 ♥ 11:50pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @11:46

Hmmmmm. I don't know about any of that. I know that I have violated those streaming guidelines for well over 20 years now, as every station I've been at has streamed and broadcast, and I regularly play more than four songs by the same artist. I have no idea how it's enforced; there's a lot of conventional streaming radio that violates this, and I haven't heard of anyone loosing as show or getting kicked off the air. It might be a rule, but I've never heard of it being enforced. 11:50pm
pxe:

↳ Arvo Zylo @11:48

hiho zylo 11:51pm
Mr. X: ^ Scribbling notes furiously. hiding them from Bandit. 11:52pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @11:50

WFMU might be exempt, and I doubt it's enforced. I have read something about an artist themselves suing, but apparently not The Talking Heads, at least not what I am finding now.

I just know that I have avoided doing it because of this, although I have played all kinds of swear words and whatnot without consequence.

♥ 11:53pm
David Shortell:

↳ Arvo Zylo @11:29

I hear that while Charles Addams created hundreds of New Yorker cartoons, only 58 featured those characters.
Is there a book that compiles all 58? There should be! 11:53pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ David Shortell @11:53

I had a calendar at one point. I should look into a book! 🎸 ♥ 11:54pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @11:52

I usually fall on the "Don Joyce" side of things: there isn't a radio rule that shouldn't be broken, and often. Anymore I make up my own rules for my own show, and I follow them about half the time. 11:55pm
Mr. X: Lots of interesting and fun selections, Arvo! Thanks for sharing them! And Austin, thanks for hosting! Have fun out there, everyone! 🎸 ♥ 11:55pm
univac: Hello, all! 🎸 ♥ 11:55pm
Austin Rich: univac! At the last minute, even! 11:56pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @11:54

As Mr. Fab has said before, WFMU pays for their right to do what they want on air, but that doesn't mean that other radio stations wouldn't be fined if it were to be enforced, and in the Trump era, that may be worth considering elsewhere. 🎸 ♥ 11:56pm
univac:

↳ Austin Rich @11:55

I'm here at UBstudios, getting ready for 3 minute madness! 11:56pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Mr. X @11:55

Thanks for having me! Thanks for sticking around! 🎸 ♥ 11:57pm
univac: Sorry missed the show, Austin! Great playlist! 🎸 ♥ 11:58pm
univac: I always love Arvo's selections too! 11:58pm
Arvo Zylo: Don Haugen texted me saying he could not comment but was listening! 11:58pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ univac @11:58

Thank you! Have a good one! 🎸 ♥ 11:58pm
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @11:58

Yeah, he's using his phone. MOST people can't comment via the phone, for tech reasons that are too complicated to get into. 11:59pm
Arvo Zylo:

↳ Austin Rich @11:58

I comment from my phone in the browser. 12:00am
pxe: thanks Austin! 12:00am
Arvo Zylo: Thanks Austin! 🎸 ♥ 12:00am
Austin Rich:

↳ Arvo Zylo @11:59

It's complicated... I know what's happening... 🎸 ♥ 12:00am
univac: C-ya