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6:49pm
: Cosmic Music

The Life, Art, and Transcendence of Alice Coltrane

By Andy Beta

www.dacapopress.com...

  6:56pm
Andrew in Toronto: Hi David! 7:04pm
Observations:

↳ Andrew in Toronto @6:56

hello Andrew, thanks for stopping by tonight!   7:05pm
Andrew in Toronto:

↳ Observations @7:04

You`re welcome! 7:06pm
Observations:

↳ Song: "Peace On Earth" by "John Coltrane"

en.wikipedia.org...

John Coltrane – soprano saxophone, tenor saxophone, bass clarinet, flute
Pharoah Sanders – tenor saxophone, flute
Alice Coltrane – piano
Jimmy Garrison – bass
Rashied Ali – drums

7:13pm
Observations: Are there any listeners out there who got to see John Coltrane live? Or Alice Coltrane? ♥ 7:14pm
Zrp: Hi David, Hi Andrew. Ack, No softcover trade. Some of us have bad hands - Arthritis has twisted 1/2 my fingers. 7:15pm
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↳ Zrp @7:14

hello zrp!

hopefully if the hardcover sells enough they will do a softcover too

7:17pm
Observations: Photos of some of my Alice Coltrane albums:

bsky.app...

  7:19pm
Andrew in Toronto:

↳ Zrp @7:14

Hi Zrp!
I have severe arthritis in all fingers.
No fun. 🥁 ♥ 7:21pm
WR: Hello David and folks. 🥁 ♥ 7:22pm
WR:

↳ Andrew in Toronto @7:19

Yikes, Andrew, no fun indeed. 7:24pm
Observations: Hard to believe now, but when she first hit the scene many male musicians were not fans, to put it nicely. Here's what Charles Tolliver told me back in 2020:

"Well, [John Coltrane] met [Alice Coltrane] and they fell in love. And of course, she was a pianist and that was good for him. She was a jazz musician. She was the sister of a wonderful bass player named Ernie Farrow who I was to meet in New York.

So it made sense that he would include her, the same way Max Roach did with Abbey Lincoln into his musical environment. She survived him and continued to be on the musical scene so that younger generations had a chance to actually see and hear her, where they didn't with John Coltrane. All they were living off was John’s records. So it makes sense that the younger generation bonded with her.

But everything that she was doing after they met and got married and were together, I would have to say was emanating off what he was doing."

🥁 ♥ 7:25pm
WR:

↳ Observations @7:13

No, did not see Alice Coltrane. John was dead by the time I learned of him in 1969. ♥ 7:29pm
Zrp:

↳ Observations @7:13

Born in 1960, we moved to the edge of LA without a Bus System down the 5 to the SFV. I would find the Hollywood scene, soon enough, but alas to late, it would have fit well at Raji's - 6160 Hollywood Blvd. :) 7:35pm
Observations: thanks for sharing both of you 🥁 ♥ 7:39pm
WR: I like to hear the issues of Cosmic Music and Infinity without the edits, and overdubbing that Alice did but her work as a leader after John died was superb. 7:47pm
Observations:

↳ Song: "Isis And Osiris" by "Alice Coltrane"

Track B2 was recorded July 4, 1970, in performance at The Village Gate, New York City

Alice Coltrane – harp
Pharoah Sanders – soprano saxophone, percussion
Rashied Ali – drums
Charlie Haden – double bass
Vishnu Wood – oud

Vishnu Wood grew up in Detroit, like Alice.

♥ 7:58pm
Zrp: Cool! 🥁 ♥ 8:57pm
doctorjazz: Hi all! (looked back, I came to jazz to late to see Alice or John Coltrane. I probably didn't get to my first concert until the early 70s, and got into jazz around 1975. Alice was around after that, but didn't get to catch her). ♥ 9:00pm
tom tom the pipers son: forgot about this…. glad to catch last hour... 9:03pm
Observations: hiya Dr J and TT! ♥ 9:08pm
tom tom the pipers son: i get the feeling with alice coltrane’s playing that there is a resistance to structure in away.. a kind of running away and fugitivity into something undefined ♥ 9:09pm
tom tom the pipers son: maybe a resistance of definition... 9:12pm
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↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:09

yes, she created her own definitions, her own sound world 🥁 ♥ 9:16pm
doctorjazz: Just came back from a fun set, Steve Turre had a quartet playing in a club in New Jersey (Shanghai Jazz-not that often I get to hear good jazz without schlepping to Manhattan or Philly0. 9:18pm
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↳ doctorjazz @9:16

sounds like a good night! ♥ 9:26pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Song: "Santana Jam slower" by "Santana & Alice Coltrane"

this is so completely awesome ♥ 9:35pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Observations @9:12

i think that misses her point which was more radical… by saying she created her own sound world sounds like she made nice with the larger culture which is not what i think she wanted... ♥ 9:41pm
tom tom the pipers son: when artist’s create/ live in their own worlds the lose any relevance 9:44pm
Observations: interesting, I will give that some thought, thanks ♥ 9:46pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Observations @9:44

of course i’m not denying she had a recognizable sound/ style, but style is really just residue of process like smoke 🥁 ♥ 9:53pm
doctorjazz: Digging the Alice Coltrane sounds, different than what I've heard of her before. ♥ 9:56pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Song: "Prandhana (extended)" by "Alice Coltrane"

quite trance inducing 🥁 ♥ 9:58pm
doctorjazz: Thanks, David! ♥ 9:58pm
tom tom the pipers son: thanks for this david… elevating us all... 10:02pm
Observations: thanks!