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6:02pm
ultradamno:
Went to see Obsession last week and for the first time noticed one of these warn...no, that's too strong, meek statement of preference maybe at the end of the credits. At least I know they tried to keep AI from creating nightmare wish sticks. www.techspot.com...
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6:04pm
joe mulligan:
Hi all! one important thing to think about. often times people will safe WFMU is a safe space, which it is, but with AI searches anything on the comments board is searchable. so anything you say on the board here you may want to avoid sharing too much personal stuff
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6:09pm
ultradamno:
His "son dying from the woke mind virus" often cited as a tipping point
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6:10pm
Ken From Hyde Park:
Hi, Mark and nomuskers. If there's a petition to deport Elon Musk, I'd readily sign it.
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6:10pm
joe mulligan:
speaking of Ford-isms, I learned yesterday that Ford pushed square dancing into american culture - and it was based on a rascist agenda
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6:11pm
joe mulligan:
"Industrialist Henry Ford popularized the form, believing that Jews invented jazz as a plot to corrupt society and that this plot could be counteracted by returning America to dances and musical styles that he saw as traditional and white. As a result, beginning in the early 1920s, he used his wealth to promote square dancing, through books and square dancing events. Ford also promoted square dance classes in public school, which were present in half of all American schools by 1928 as part of the standard physical education curriculum. Modern western square dance evolved in square dance events funded by Ford, using direction and guidance prepared by Colorado school superintendent Lloyd "Pappy" Shaw"
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6:11pm
DjLorraine:
I never saw the fascination with him.
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6:29pm
joe mulligan:
Musk is not insane, he's insanely greedy
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6:31pm
Cooh John:
Another peeling back the layers of transnational busines--shadow government/the deep state--running the world. Government and politics acts as a shield for the elites. Just sayin'.
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6:35pm
ultradamno:
As he got way, way, way wealthier he became way, way, way angrier sounds like a description of any 19th century robber baron in a novel
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6:39pm
Ken From Hyde Park:
I don't have a link at hand, but I recall a news item the other day that all but three refugees allowed to enter the US last year were from South Africa. Elon Musk is from South Africa. Coincidence?
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6:39pm
joe mulligan:
they speak stupid to their undereducated fans which there are many of in the US. then they're seen as both relatable and smart by that audience/fanbase
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6:39pm
Beast of Boonton:
Disagree with a WFMU DJ's opinion and get banned for life.
Sad but true
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6:43pm
disco_nap_:
These Tech Bros love to distract us from the rampant labor and environmental issues with AI infrastructure that are ALREADY HERE by asking us to imagine AGI destroying us
7:01pm
mdashkin:
There are quite a few book titles that have used the Maimonides "Guide for the Perplexed" in a sort of jokey way. They probably saw it second hand.
Listener comments!
: Mark! Techtucksers!
Deano de los Muertos: Oh, hi Mark
Bas NL: Hi Mark! Musk up, all!
ultradamno: Went to see Obsession last week and for the first time noticed one of these warn...no, that's too strong, meek statement of preference maybe at the end of the credits. At least I know they tried to keep AI from creating nightmare wish sticks. www.techspot.com...
Ironside: Hey Mark! Hey everyone!
joe mulligan: Hi all! one important thing to think about. often times people will safe WFMU is a safe space, which it is, but with AI searches anything on the comments board is searchable. so anything you say on the board here you may want to avoid sharing too much personal stuff
chresti: Hi Mark and markers!
Mark Hurst: Hi ultra, Deano, Bas, Ironside, joe, chresti - welcome!
tim: Hey Mark and gang!
Mark Hurst: Welcome, tim
Mark Hurst:
↳ joe mulligan @6:04
Good point. Yes - anything on a public site is liable to be hoovered up for AI training & analysis, and forever storage, by various Big Tech firms.DjLorraine: Greetings
ultradamno: His "son dying from the woke mind virus" often cited as a tipping point
Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Mark and nomuskers. If there's a petition to deport Elon Musk, I'd readily sign it.
joe mulligan: speaking of Ford-isms, I learned yesterday that Ford pushed square dancing into american culture - and it was based on a rascist agenda
Mark Hurst:
↳ ultradamno @6:09
Yes, the "woke mind virus" is mentioned several times in the book - including the likely origin, where Musk got that phrase.Mark Hurst: Hi DjL & KfHP
joe mulligan: "Industrialist Henry Ford popularized the form, believing that Jews invented jazz as a plot to corrupt society and that this plot could be counteracted by returning America to dances and musical styles that he saw as traditional and white. As a result, beginning in the early 1920s, he used his wealth to promote square dancing, through books and square dancing events. Ford also promoted square dance classes in public school, which were present in half of all American schools by 1928 as part of the standard physical education curriculum. Modern western square dance evolved in square dance events funded by Ford, using direction and guidance prepared by Colorado school superintendent Lloyd "Pappy" Shaw"
DjLorraine: I never saw the fascination with him.
ultradamno: Sky pollution www.yahoo.com...
ultradamno: Ebola www.msn.com...
joe mulligan: Musk is not insane, he's insanely greedy
Cooh John: Another peeling back the layers of transnational busines--shadow government/the deep state--running the world. Government and politics acts as a shield for the elites. Just sayin'.
Sherman: Killer show!
Sherman: Great show!
Cooh John: 🙋🏻♂️ DjLorraine.
ultradamno: As he got way, way, way wealthier he became way, way, way angrier sounds like a description of any 19th century robber baron in a novel
PaulRobeson1926: Good interview
Mark Hurst:
↳ PaulRobeson1926 @6:37
Thanks, PaulRKen From Hyde Park: I don't have a link at hand, but I recall a news item the other day that all but three refugees allowed to enter the US last year were from South Africa. Elon Musk is from South Africa. Coincidence?
joe mulligan: they speak stupid to their undereducated fans which there are many of in the US. then they're seen as both relatable and smart by that audience/fanbase
Beast of Boonton: Disagree with a WFMU DJ's opinion and get banned for life.
Sad but true
DjLorraine:
↳ Sherman @6:31
🙋Cooh John. I enjoyed those last videos you sent me.Mark Hurst:
↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:39
The book draws out a number of South Africa connections - not just through Musk but through other members of the "PayPal mafia"Ken From Hyde Park:
↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:39
White South Africans, I must add.Deano de los Muertos: Interesting and depressing interview, Mark 😁
Mark Hurst:
↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:41
Glad to hear it delivers on both counts!joe mulligan:
↳ Beast of Boonton @6:39
light disagreedisco_nap_: These Tech Bros love to distract us from the rampant labor and environmental issues with AI infrastructure that are ALREADY HERE by asking us to imagine AGI destroying us
Mark Hurst:
↳ disco_nap_ @6:43
exactlybleubombersune: let's hope Ilona Mush follows the example of James Woods in Videodrome
disco_nap_: Finished Atlas of AI (highly recommend!), onto Empire of AI!
Robby:
↳ disco_nap_ @6:43
too true. I was written out of last quarter's budget and jobs available to me: teaching aI to improve its interactions with humans. nah thanxNON-SEQUITUR MAN: George Michael was of Greek extraction?
disco_nap_:
↳ Robby @6:45
Sorry dude that is so nauseating 🤢Marie de Chicago: Great show, again, Mark. Hi All!
Mark Hurst:
↳ Marie de Chicago @6:48
Hi Marie, and thanksBas NL: A positive point to make is that people are learning and wising up to the hype of big tech.
Mark Hurst:
↳ Bas NL @6:49
Yes! The data center protests are a good sign of that happening.Robby: that's the gig economy, work is here today gone tomorrow
Marie de Chicago: I just cancelled Prime...
Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark! Dug the show while cleaning up from gaming!
Listener Bop Monroe: thank you guys, that was very informative and well presented.
GC in Bmore: Great to hear this chat.
Marie de Chicago: a sycophant of government who resents paying taxes
Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Quinn & Ben!
And i'm not so sure Musk has a long business future..
Deano de los Muertos: Thanks Mark! Good hopeful note ending
Marie de Chicago:
↳ Bas NL @6:55
Hi Bas! Would love to know why you think that...chresti: Thanks Mark!
kevlicki: Oh! I forgot to share a fellow traveler in Portland wrote about making art and organizing with the DSA against data centers in Oregon
https://justseeds.org/rally-against-data-center-disasters/
Marie de Chicago: Thanks, Mark and authors!
Bay Ridge Danny: Thanks Mark!
Bas NL:
↳ Marie de Chicago @6:56
There's just so much BS that can be consumed. People do draw lines. Enough is enough.ultradamno: News From Babel to come!
bleubombersune: Thanks Mark, Quinn & Ben All stray safe and be well
tim: Thanks, Mark! Great interview!
Marie de Chicago:
↳ Bas NL @6:58
True dat. We can hope and that I could really see that..Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark and guests. Eat more ketamine!
Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
mdashkin: There are quite a few book titles that have used the Maimonides "Guide for the Perplexed" in a sort of jokey way. They probably saw it second hand.