🤖♥
6:10pm
ultradamno:
On the upside, you might get to meet Kristi Noem
6:10pm
queems:
THE journalist at the atlantic
🤖♥
6:11pm
chris in the redwoods:
these guys' phones *have* to be pwned. they were personal phones, ffs.
6:13pm
Quinn02:
Is her op-ed online somewhere?
♥
6:13pm
other nadia (hectic):
ugh i just read 1984 and this is just like the thought police coming and taking you away
🤖♥
6:13pm
Bas NL:
Telling a journalist is a bit old school.. Next time they'd better relay live drone video. Far further reach.
6:13pm
morphe':
"...Rümeysa Öztürk, 30, was detained by masked, plainclothes officers as she walked in a Boston-area suburb on Tuesday, an incident that was captured on surveillance footage..."
No to argue for sensitive "snatch squads" but a bunch of men accosting a Muslim woman on the street is so egregious and @#$%^&*()_@#$... The lone female cop shows up 30-40 seconds into the abduction ...
6:13pm
Eva:
Horrific!
The Tufts student was abducted by men with masks!
♥
6:14pm
egould:
Government is run by people. People are incompetent. Therefore, Government is incompetent.
🤖♥
6:14pm
Handy Haversack:
I am reading a book about 1930s Berlin and the early days of the Hitler chancellory, and the parallels are striking -- the incompetence, the pettiness, the jealous rages, the churlishness. Not to mention the disappearances and the sanctioning of violence against political enemies.
6:14pm
GC in Bmore:
https://pluralistic.net/2025/03/31/madison-square-garden/
Cory Doctorow’s latest essay is very much worth reading.
Not meaning to make light of those similarities, I've been re-reading Micronauts comic-books from my childhood and the parallels between the evil reign of Baron Karza and what's happening here & now are striking. Seriously. Bits of evil monologue are sounding nauseatingly familiar...
The Pop Group ['80s] pointed to the fact that all of the North of Ireland policing tactics were coming to the rest of the UK:
"Ireland is their testing ground.." [The Pop Group - Justice] ...
same. plus walks in the park or forest or beach or whatever is around.
6:31pm
kidkodama:
music always helps ♥
🤖♥
6:32pm
Handy Haversack:
It is possible to live outside the default. There is friction. But every single one of us could toss out the spyphone TODAY and be OK. Consider.
🤖♥
6:33pm
erik:
I mean they could be custodians of your data , and if they can't take care of it, have to destroy their copy, it or give it back to you. but no. It would be conceptually easy to protect dna data with HIPAA.
♥
6:34pm
Count d'Al Dente:
Arrest records and such, are generally public information.
🤖♥
6:34pm
Handy Haversack:
Remember the Techtonic ep. that pointed out that the state of New Jersey takes a genetic sample of every baby born there? Does that seem safe?
♥
6:34pm
other nadia (hectic):
so basically if you're on the internet this ai model can recognize you anywhere from that?
There's the internet and then there's the internet. Avoiding having accounts with the worst actors (Google, Amazon, Apple, Meta, Twitter) goes a long way to evading the profile building.
good advice, thanks handy. i only have a gmail account and this on the internet and i've never posted a photo of myself on anything, so i hope i'm good for now. i just hate thinking about these robots and capitalists profiting off of my FACE of all things! a face is personal.
♥
6:38pm
dale:
this administration has made it clear that they don't work for us, we work for them.
♥
6:38pm
egould:
Big Government is what well-meaning but perhaps naive Americans were clamoring for since the 1920's. Now they've got it. Welcome to Big Government. It's not your Dad. It's not your friend.
♥
6:38pm
Ciggy:
I'm being pressured to take 23 & me.
I am the last. male on my father's side.
Apparently, there is some mysterious "Fench Connection " with my father's Portuguese heritage
♥
6:41pm
red_door_what_for in ypsilanti:
You know what really bothers me is how many background checks, required paperwork, and things like that are processed through these sketchy orgs that just have your info forever
This apartment complex wanted to SCAN my ID upon entry to the premesis and i said nawwwwww bye
And these policies target people who cant afford another option. You have fewer privacy choices when you have fewer purchasing chocies
i'll probably get off gmail after i get a flip phone, which i decided to do recently. it's just that right now my email is the only way i can contact my friends and make plans and stuff. but i'm working on it. do you know what the dangers of having an email are? i'd like to know.
"...Rümeysa Öztürk, 30, was detained by masked, plainclothes officers as she walked in a Boston-area suburb on Tuesday, an incident that was captured on surveillance footage..."
No to argue for sensitive "snatch squads" but a bunch of men accosting a Muslim woman on the street is so egregious and @#$%^&*()_@#$... The lone female cop shows up 30-40 seconds into the abduction ...
I still need to transition - I have a Proton for personal and Fastmail for my business. I'm just being lazy!
🤖♥
6:41pm
Ken From Hyde Park:
I submit without much proof that they plan to re-purpose government weather/climate forecasting computers to run their AI projects.
that's the book that mark was talking about a minute ago. i've gotta read that and the spotify book. and i agree, it is very frightening. and it angers me to be honest.
That should be classed as medical data and covered by HIPPA (mid last year NJ changed it to 2 year retention (nj.gov...)) but Direct to consumer services were not covered
♥
6:43pm
VantuckyEd:
Let's not forget that Ice Gestapo is padding the pockets of CEOs who run for profit prisons. It's a huge corrupt scam.
🤖♥
6:43pm
ultradamno:
This is not surprising, recall the unmarked vans apprehending people during protests the first time Trump was in office.
6:43pm
morphe':
.Rümeysa Öztürk, 30 ... one bystander is heard saying - "...you do not look like police .... can you show ID??? Why are you wearing masks???""
🤖♥
6:43pm
tim:
Is anyone with any type of authority trying to stop kidnappings? Is anyone doing anything? I haven't heard about any pushback other than individuals.
6:43pm
ViolaChica:
Thank you so very much Mark for speaking out! It is helping ease the pain in my heart of what’s happening.
🤖♥
6:43pm
herb.nyc:
These are truly awful news / updates. Mahmoud Khalil and the tufts student, so so wrong. This govt is evil
🤖♥
6:44pm
tim:
Is Tufts doing anything? What the fuck?
6:44pm
GC in Bmore:
Listen also to the current episode of This American Life entitled Museum of Now for the second-person anecdote told by roommate of a woman who had to flee in a hurry to Canada after ICE started showing up at her apartment. Another scholar who did absolutely nothing.
The episode is a podcast at their site.
I mean, in brief, every single thing in your e-mail is read by Google and algorithmically sorted for importance to build a profile of you that is immediately sold to advertisers but potentially available to ANYONE. And you're also throwing the people you correspond with under that bus even if they have quit Google. Gmail delivers mail only because Google has found that is an efficient means of extracting personal data so as to build a more sellable profile of its users.
You can still use e-mail if you drop Gmail. Fastmail, Protonmail -- these are great.
Hi Handy.
I had my final Radiation Fraction today.
They gave me my face & neck mold (which immobilized my head).
Nice gift. Weird, but nice.
Feeling Great.
🤖♥
6:48pm
Ken From Hyde Park:
How's about Musk paying people to vote a certain way in a Wisconsin state supreme court election?
🤖♥
6:48pm
regina j:
It’s completely bonkers. I think back to my days protesting my university’s investments in apartheid-era South Africa and not feeling even slightly unsafe while doing it. Being disappeared?!?! Insane.
🤖♥
6:49pm
ultradamno:
"and, hold on, I've got some other stuff about her I'm making up on the fly..."
♥
6:49pm
eastvanhalen:
Not to underemphasize the role of technology in this monitoring, but imo it's also useful to know about the role of a violent extremist group called Betar in monitoring and targeting students. They've been attacking people in the streets, issuing death threats, and providing deportation lists to the current administration.
as i said earlier, it's why there is a US brain drain in the US right now, many academics moving to Canada, Europe, etc. it's like Germany 1930s: usrimg-850.fark.net...
ok so anything in my account, anything i say to other people, our whole conversations are read and sorted by an algorithm? that's fucking awful! i'll switch.
♥
6:52pm
eastvanhalen:
Rubio can't answer the question because there is no coherent rationale except to terrorize political enemies. Also, he's as dumb as a sack of hammers
it started in FL under De$antis....now it's the whole country.....
🤖♥
6:52pm
ultradamno:
White House correspondents dinner doing away with comedian guests altogether since Amber Ruffin refuses to pretend she would 'both sides' up her work
♥
6:53pm
VantuckyEd:
Somehow Philip K. Dick has written our current reality.
♥
6:57pm
red_door_what_for in ypsilanti:
Now is the time to learn and talk about manipulation tactics and logical fallacies, the ways they are used in the current culture. There are patterns
It's truly sad, we were once a great country. We used to tax the rich and fix the infrastructure. Now we're abducting people for thinking differently...
Listener comments!
: Hi Mark, techies.
Handy Haversack: Mark! Techyons!
Settling in for the screeds and jeremiads would that more people were engaging in them!
ultradamno: Mark! Techtondernizers!
Fuzzy: Fourth!
Hello all!
chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
Bas NL: Hi Mark! Hi all!
David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids.
Webhamster Henry: Hello Maaaaaaaaark H.! << Harmony Cobel
other nadia (hectic): hey guys. techtic here. all this stuff looks dreadful.
tom tom the pipers son: hello mark and all….hi david...
Bea: Good evening, Mark! Happy Monday!
morphe': Attuned ...
Deano de los Muertos: Hi Mark..missed last week’s show live, but caught it in the archives. 🫡
chris in the redwoods: Mrs. Bowers know.
hi, Mark and everyone.
Count d'Al Dente: Good day all, whatever your time zone.
Will thee SG OCNY: Good afternoon Mark Hurst and all!!!
Marie in Chicago: Hi Mark, hi All, glad to here
PaulRobeson1925: Hi Hi Hi Hi Hi
Ciggy: Watching 👀
ultradamno: Blue Ski
MarciB: Hello Techtonics - bracing myself for tonight's scary news...
tim: Hi Mark and everyone. I can't really say I'm glad to be here. But I'm glad I'm here with you guys.
Bas NL: Cliffhanger!
ultradamno: On the upside, you might get to meet Kristi Noem
queems: THE journalist at the atlantic
chris in the redwoods: these guys' phones *have* to be pwned. they were personal phones, ffs.
Quinn02: Is her op-ed online somewhere?
other nadia (hectic): ugh i just read 1984 and this is just like the thought police coming and taking you away
Bas NL: Telling a journalist is a bit old school.. Next time they'd better relay live drone video. Far further reach.
morphe': "...Rümeysa Öztürk, 30, was detained by masked, plainclothes officers as she walked in a Boston-area suburb on Tuesday, an incident that was captured on surveillance footage..."
No to argue for sensitive "snatch squads" but a bunch of men accosting a Muslim woman on the street is so egregious and @#$%^&*()_@#$... The lone female cop shows up 30-40 seconds into the abduction ...
www.theguardian.com...
Eva: Horrific!
The Tufts student was abducted by men with masks!
egould: Government is run by people. People are incompetent. Therefore, Government is incompetent.
Handy Haversack: I am reading a book about 1930s Berlin and the early days of the Hitler chancellory, and the parallels are striking -- the incompetence, the pettiness, the jealous rages, the churlishness. Not to mention the disappearances and the sanctioning of violence against political enemies.
GC in Bmore: https://pluralistic.net/2025/03/31/madison-square-garden/
Cory Doctorow’s latest essay is very much worth reading.
Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Mark and those of you still here.
other nadia (hectic):
↳ Handy Haversack @6:14
that's horrible. it sucks how you can literally see the pattern playing out again.ultradamno: Those comments are mostly from Matt Warwick, aren't they?
Rev. Turnip Druid:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:14
Not meaning to make light of those similarities, I've been re-reading Micronauts comic-books from my childhood and the parallels between the evil reign of Baron Karza and what's happening here & now are striking. Seriously. Bits of evil monologue are sounding nauseatingly familiar...Handy Haversack:
↳ Rev. Turnip Druid @6:18
I guess that's part of the banality of evil -- it can't even think of new lines.yippie: im throwing away my smart can opener immediately
joe mulligan:
↳ ultradamno @6:10
as long as you're not a puppyother nadia (hectic): MY DATA ISNT FREE!
Webhamster Henry: Mark, just for fun shout out "Alexa turn all the lights on" just to see how many listeners have these devices!
MarciB: My nephew was thrilled with his 23+Me results. Me, not so much 😔
Bas NL: I'm sure my snoring will garble any AI.
ultradamno: Alie Ward on CBS' Sat morning Did I Mention Invention getting all excited about Ring www.facebook.com...
joe mulligan: you're 18% Irish, wow! gives new context for a potentially new meaning to a future "st patrick's day massacre"
morphe':
↳ GC in Bmore @6:14
The Pop Group ['80s] pointed to the fact that all of the North of Ireland policing tactics were coming to the rest of the UK:"Ireland is their testing ground.." [The Pop Group - Justice] ...
spacecadet: Golden state killer?
Webhamster Henry: When 23+Me can't figure it out, they'll say "Ashkenazi Jew from somewhere in Europe"
chris in the redwoods:
↳ spacecadet @6:25
yup, that's the one.kidkodama: probably golden state. zodiac never got identified
red_door_what_for in ypsilanti: Oh naww grandma sold my DNA down the river 😭
other nadia (hectic): i bet my great aunt did the cheek swab...
morphe': FBI might be in on that Wholesale DNA bid ...
yippie: i wonder how fast DNA auctioneers need to talk
red_door_what_for in ypsilanti: Things have been scary :~(
What do you guys do to stay grounded?
ultradamno: Ted Cruz
Listener Robert:
↳ kidkodama @6:26
That's what I thought. I was surprised to hear here that Zodiac had been found.VantuckyEd: Just wait until they sell all that DNA info to health insurance companies.
Barbie: Health insurance companies. Limit availability? Cap coverage?
VantuckyEd:
↳ Barbie @6:27
Bingo. Exactly.egould: Your DNA info will only be safe if the US Gov't owns and controls it. Don't worry so much.
kidkodama:
↳ red_door_what_for in ypsilanti @6:27
friends and social circles. talking about these things, but taking breaks for mental wellbeing. crazy times...chris in the redwoods:
↳ kidkodama @6:29
same. plus walks in the park or forest or beach or whatever is around.kidkodama: music always helps ♥
Handy Haversack: It is possible to live outside the default. There is friction. But every single one of us could toss out the spyphone TODAY and be OK. Consider.
erik: I mean they could be custodians of your data , and if they can't take care of it, have to destroy their copy, it or give it back to you. but no. It would be conceptually easy to protect dna data with HIPAA.
Count d'Al Dente: Arrest records and such, are generally public information.
Handy Haversack: Remember the Techtonic ep. that pointed out that the state of New Jersey takes a genetic sample of every baby born there? Does that seem safe?
other nadia (hectic): so basically if you're on the internet this ai model can recognize you anywhere from that?
egould:
↳ erik @6:33
Destroy their copy. There are infinite copies.red_door_what_for in ypsilanti: Thank you guys for sharing 💖
Handy Haversack:
↳ other nadia (hectic) @6:34
There's the internet and then there's the internet. Avoiding having accounts with the worst actors (Google, Amazon, Apple, Meta, Twitter) goes a long way to evading the profile building.other nadia (hectic):
↳ kidkodama @6:31
it does ♥PaulRobeson1925: Technopoly- Neil Postman…
queems: hahaha yeah it really is embarrassing
other nadia (hectic):
↳ Handy Haversack @6:35
good advice, thanks handy. i only have a gmail account and this on the internet and i've never posted a photo of myself on anything, so i hope i'm good for now. i just hate thinking about these robots and capitalists profiting off of my FACE of all things! a face is personal.red_door_what_for in ypsilanti: That poor sweet meme dog didn't die for this crap. Soooooooo insulting
dale: this administration has made it clear that they don't work for us, we work for them.
egould: Big Government is what well-meaning but perhaps naive Americans were clamoring for since the 1920's. Now they've got it. Welcome to Big Government. It's not your Dad. It's not your friend.
Ciggy: I'm being pressured to take 23 & me.
I am the last. male on my father's side.
Apparently, there is some mysterious "Fench Connection " with my father's Portuguese heritage
morphe': CRASS [band]
"Big 'A' Little 'a"
"Big 'A' Little 'a" Bouncing 'B'
the system might get ya but it won't get me ... If ya don't want to be a # ====>>>
Handy Haversack:
↳ other nadia (hectic) @6:38
Getting off Gmail was one of the best decisions I ever made. I really recommend it.Also, good adblocker and a VPN. And obviously never use Chrome or Edge for browsing.
MarciB:
↳ other nadia (hectic) @6:38
Have you read "Your face Belongs to Us" by Kashmir Hill? Despite your wise and best intentions, your face is out there. It's frightening.ultradamno: You demonetizing fake (largely parody) AI movie trailers www.comingsoon.net...
red_door_what_for in ypsilanti: You know what really bothers me is how many background checks, required paperwork, and things like that are processed through these sketchy orgs that just have your info forever
This apartment complex wanted to SCAN my ID upon entry to the premesis and i said nawwwwww bye
And these policies target people who cant afford another option. You have fewer privacy choices when you have fewer purchasing chocies
other nadia (hectic):
↳ Handy Haversack @6:39
i'll probably get off gmail after i get a flip phone, which i decided to do recently. it's just that right now my email is the only way i can contact my friends and make plans and stuff. but i'm working on it. do you know what the dangers of having an email are? i'd like to know.morphe': Avatar @6:13
morphe':
"...Rümeysa Öztürk, 30, was detained by masked, plainclothes officers as she walked in a Boston-area suburb on Tuesday, an incident that was captured on surveillance footage..."
No to argue for sensitive "snatch squads" but a bunch of men accosting a Muslim woman on the street is so egregious and @#$%^&*()_@#$... The lone female cop shows up 30-40 seconds into the abduction ...
www.theguardian.com...
MarciB:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:39
I still need to transition - I have a Proton for personal and Fastmail for my business. I'm just being lazy!Ken From Hyde Park: I submit without much proof that they plan to re-purpose government weather/climate forecasting computers to run their AI projects.
other nadia (hectic):
↳ MarciB @6:40
that's the book that mark was talking about a minute ago. i've gotta read that and the spotify book. and i agree, it is very frightening. and it angers me to be honest.erik:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:34
That should be classed as medical data and covered by HIPPA (mid last year NJ changed it to 2 year retention (nj.gov...)) but Direct to consumer services were not coveredVantuckyEd: Let's not forget that Ice Gestapo is padding the pockets of CEOs who run for profit prisons. It's a huge corrupt scam.
ultradamno: This is not surprising, recall the unmarked vans apprehending people during protests the first time Trump was in office.
morphe': .Rümeysa Öztürk, 30 ... one bystander is heard saying - "...you do not look like police .... can you show ID??? Why are you wearing masks???""
tim: Is anyone with any type of authority trying to stop kidnappings? Is anyone doing anything? I haven't heard about any pushback other than individuals.
ViolaChica: Thank you so very much Mark for speaking out! It is helping ease the pain in my heart of what’s happening.
herb.nyc: These are truly awful news / updates. Mahmoud Khalil and the tufts student, so so wrong. This govt is evil
cosmic matrix: grrrrr
tim: Is Tufts doing anything? What the fuck?
GC in Bmore: Listen also to the current episode of This American Life entitled Museum of Now for the second-person anecdote told by roommate of a woman who had to flee in a hurry to Canada after ICE started showing up at her apartment. Another scholar who did absolutely nothing.
The episode is a podcast at their site.
ultradamno:
↳ ultradamno @6:43
www.snopes.com...chris in the redwoods:
↳ tim @6:43
it is the purview of congress to rein in executive overreach. so far, they're sleeping.cosmic matrix: this is beyond outrageous. oh no.
morphe': Best 2025 Investments:
US =. Private Prison Co.s
EU = weapons Co.s as they are arming up sans OrangeGangster ...
tim:
↳ chris in the redwoods @6:45
Fuckin assholes.chris in the redwoods:
↳ tim @6:46
yessirFuzzy: April 5 -- get out in the streets!
other nadia (hectic): You have the right to free speech
As long as you're not
Dumb enough to actually try it
northguineahills: thanks, mark!
Handy Haversack:
↳ other nadia (hectic) @6:41
I mean, in brief, every single thing in your e-mail is read by Google and algorithmically sorted for importance to build a profile of you that is immediately sold to advertisers but potentially available to ANYONE. And you're also throwing the people you correspond with under that bus even if they have quit Google. Gmail delivers mail only because Google has found that is an efficient means of extracting personal data so as to build a more sellable profile of its users.You can still use e-mail if you drop Gmail. Fastmail, Protonmail -- these are great.
Quinn02: So disgusting
Ciggy:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:39
Hi Handy.I had my final Radiation Fraction today.
They gave me my face & neck mold (which immobilized my head).
Nice gift. Weird, but nice.
Feeling Great.
Ken From Hyde Park: How's about Musk paying people to vote a certain way in a Wisconsin state supreme court election?
Will thee SG OCNY: What a douche nozzle
regina j: It’s completely bonkers. I think back to my days protesting my university’s investments in apartheid-era South Africa and not feeling even slightly unsafe while doing it. Being disappeared?!?! Insane.
common: pathetic shithead
MarciB:
↳ other nadia (hectic) @6:42
What angers me is cases like yours - where you took smart precautions- and still, your face is out there. It's infuriating.Handy Haversack:
↳ Ciggy @6:48
Super glad to hear it, Ciggy!ultradamno: "and, hold on, I've got some other stuff about her I'm making up on the fly..."
eastvanhalen: Not to underemphasize the role of technology in this monitoring, but imo it's also useful to know about the role of a violent extremist group called Betar in monitoring and targeting students. They've been attacking people in the streets, issuing death threats, and providing deportation lists to the current administration.
Fuzzy: Fuck you Lil' Marco.
cosmic matrix: he’s just against a rukus!
Marie in Chicago: They're trying to silence students, where so much impetus for change happens
MarciB: I want to punch Rubio in the face.
northguineahills:
↳ Will thee SG OCNY @6:48
that's a kind way to put it....joe mulligan: "destabilizing"???
βrian:
↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:48
Fuck that souless cretin. (I've already voted, by the way.)ultradamno:
↳ MarciB @6:49
Him and Graham are a special brand of infuriatingFuzzy:
↳ MarciB @6:49
Lotsa faces need punching.βrian: [soulless]
Ciggy: The Dissappeared
northguineahills:
↳ Marie in Chicago @6:49
as i said earlier, it's why there is a US brain drain in the US right now, many academics moving to Canada, Europe, etc. it's like Germany 1930s: usrimg-850.fark.net...Fuzzy:
↳ Fuzzy @6:50
I like the idea of non-violent protest, but fuck, it feels like we're beyond that sometimes -- it should be more dangerous to be a fucking Nazi.other nadia (hectic):
↳ Handy Haversack @6:47
ok so anything in my account, anything i say to other people, our whole conversations are read and sorted by an algorithm? that's fucking awful! i'll switch.eastvanhalen: Rubio can't answer the question because there is no coherent rationale except to terrorize political enemies. Also, he's as dumb as a sack of hammers
northguineahills:
↳ northguineahills @6:51
it started in FL under De$antis....now it's the whole country.....ultradamno: White House correspondents dinner doing away with comedian guests altogether since Amber Ruffin refuses to pretend she would 'both sides' up her work
VantuckyEd: Somehow Philip K. Dick has written our current reality.
Fuzzy:
↳ other nadia (hectic) @6:47
Let fury have the hour, anger can be powerDo you know that you can use it?
egould: It should be AI that makes these decisions. Humans are subject to biases and pettiness. We can only trust AI.
PaulRobeson1925: When someone gives you a hypothetical say “I don’t deal in hypotheticals…”
other nadia (hectic): i dont have an alexa or anything, but if you have one, can it still hear even if it's "turned off"?
Eva: ICE is brutal here in the greater Boston area. This regime hates our mayors. Mayor Wu is standing up to them.
Will thee SG OCNY: We're at the Idiocracy x 1984 x minority report reality...
egould:
↳ other nadia (hectic) @6:54
It's never turned off.tim: Boy, this is infuriating and depressing.
VantuckyEd:
↳ Will thee SG OCNY @6:54
Don't forget Radio Free Ubik.Handy Haversack: Thanks for this necessary episode, Mark.
Deano de los Muertos:
↳ other nadia (hectic) @6:54
You can usually turn them on WITH voice activation, meaning it must be listeningmorphe': "Mar 30, 2025 -
Politics & Policy
Scoop: White House to take charge of briefing-room seating chart"
www.axios.com...
Deano de los Muertos: Thanks Mark, wild stuff…
other nadia (hectic):
↳ Fuzzy @6:53
we're controlled in the body, controlled in the mindDjLorraine: Thank you Mark
morphe': Thanks Mark and all ....
red_door_what_for in ypsilanti: Now is the time to learn and talk about manipulation tactics and logical fallacies, the ways they are used in the current culture. There are patterns
cosmic matrix: yikes
Will thee SG OCNY:
↳ VantuckyEd @6:55
It's truly sad, we were once a great country. We used to tax the rich and fix the infrastructure. Now we're abducting people for thinking differently...northguineahills:
↳ Will thee SG OCNY @6:54
the stupidest timeline....that becomes a nightmare...Eva: Thanks Mark
egould: Thank you Mark.
cosmic matrix: thank u
PaulRobeson1925: It is best to not deal in hypotheticals.
MarciB: I feel like self-deporting will be our only option soon - and not all of us can/want to do so
greg g: Thank you Marc. Take care everyone
chris in the redwoods: thanks, Mark.
take care, folks!
joe mulligan: keep it real Mark!!
Will thee SG OCNY: Thank you Mark Hurst!!!
Fuzzy: Thanks Mark -- keep swinging the hammer!
Marie in Chicago: Thank you, Mark
Quinn02: Thank you Mark
Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark. Imagine the people ten years from now listening to the archive of this. Eep!
Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Message clear!
VantuckyEd: Thanks Mark!
bleubombersune: Thanks Mark all stray safe and be well
MarciB: Thanks Mark- much needed - stay safe!
steve: it is nothing new that you cannot criticize certain groups
Phil-: Great stuff man excellent always
bleubombersune: Thanks Mark all stray safe and be well
steve: thanks Mark
Marie in Chicago: what was the email service that Mark recommended as an alternative google?
zydeco Phil: Crushin it Mark
Handy Haversack:
↳ Marie in Chicago @6:58
Fastmail or Proton Mail.tim: Thanks, Mark. Thanks for putting a lot of thought and research into what you share. I'm glad you are saying it.
other nadia (hectic): thanks
Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
Marie in Chicago:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:59
Thank you, Handy! (heart)morphe':
↳ Song: "Bye and Bye" by "Georgia Mass Choir"
Yer Rights ...Lying to local police is neither here nor there, but lying to a Federal Officer [FBI, etc] is considered a crimminal offence
Fredericks:
↳ Bas NL @6:23
What about when you talk in your sleep?sinner: Hallelujah and get off google!