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Techtonic with Mark Hurst | WFMU

Evan Selinger and Albert Fox Cahn, authors, "Move Slow and Upgrade": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Dystopia update: good news edition: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Janet Vertesi, founder of the Opt Out Project: Techtonic with Mark Hurst A visit to Repair Cafe El Barrio: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 2 w/cohost Jesse Jarnow: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 1 w/cohost station manager Ken Freedman: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Celebrating 400 episodes of Techtonic: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Chris Gilliard on Amazon’s admission that Ring spies on us: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Peter Dear ("The World As We Know It") and how we interpret AI: Techtonic with Mark Hurst AI is spreading where it doesn't belong: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Peter Schmidt on the book "Attensity" by the Friends of Attention: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Lora Kolodny from CNBC on Grok's sexualized images: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ken Freedman and Mark discuss the year ahead: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Tim Wu, author, "The Age of Extraction": Techtonic with Mark Hurst The Ghost of Christmas Tech Anxieties - Sara Clemens and Stu Horvath fill in, with guest Adam Allsuch Boardman: Techtonic with Mark Hurst The first annual Creepy Awards: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Noah McCormack from The Baffler: "We used to read things in this country": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Amateur radio is a superpower: Thomas Witherspoon: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Citizens are being forced to pay for Big Tech data centers, feat. Pat Garofalo: Techtonic with Mark Hurst How low can the tech oligarchs go?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Paul Mozur on the spread of data centers: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Aram Sinnreich, co-author, "The Secret Life of Data": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Widening inequality and Big Tech surveillance, feat. Dan Currell: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Filmmaker Amanda Hanna-McLeer on the Luddite renaissance: Techtonic with Mark Hurst The protest against smartphones, with Logan Lane: Techtonic with Mark Hurst AI and surveillance keep spreading: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Megan Greenwell, author, "Bad Company: Private Equity and the Death of the American Dream": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Glenn Adamson, author, "A Century of Tomorrows": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Joseph Weizenbaum warned us about AI 50 years ago (feat. Faine Greenwood): Techtonic with Mark Hurst Milestones for Big Tech... and Techtonic: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Cory Doctorow, author and journalist: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Webb Keane, author, "Animals, Robots, Gods": Techtonic with Mark Hurst If/Then/Else - Sara Clemens and Stu Horvath fill in, with guest Brendan Keogh: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Adam Becker, author, "More Everything Forever": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Three emerging dystopias: money, water, and truth: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Duncan Moench on "soylent screens" and producerism: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ed Park, author, "An Oral History of Atlantis": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Daniel Solove, author, "On Privacy and Technology": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Burn Hollywood Burn - Will AI save the movies? Dan Morfitt fills in with guest John Ashbrook: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Compulsory surveillance and other threats: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Lori Emerson, author, "Other Networks": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Unveiling our new theme song by Kirk Pearson, and Big Tech alternatives: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Matt Warwick fills in for Techtonic with Co-Host HurstBot: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Emily M. Bender and Alex Hanna, authors, "The AI Con": Techtonic with Mark Hurst David Greenwood, author, "The Cloud Intern": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Surveillance scholar Chris Gilliard on Facebook's spy glasses: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Discussing "Careless People" by Facebook whistleblower Sarah Wynn-Williams: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Sybil Derrible, author, "The Infrastructure Book": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Dan Morfitt and Mark Hurst discuss dystopian movies: Techtonic with Mark Hurst The Defunding of Public Radio with Jesse Walker, Uri Berliner and Sue Matters: Techtonic with Mark Hurst John Warner, author, "More Than Words": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Sue-Lin Wong and online scams: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Emergency surveillance update: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Liz Pelly, author, "Mood Machine": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ben Snyder, author, "Spy Plane": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 2 w/cohost Matt Warwick: Techtonic with Mark Hurst AI and the future of war – with "Flash Wars" director Daniel Wunderer: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Nick Couldry, author, "The Space of the World": Techtonic with Mark Hurst August Lamm: you don't need a smartphone: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Supervillains in tech – with Greg Epstein, Chris Gilliard, and Jim Starlin: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Welcome to the oligarchy: on Big Tech's government takeover: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Kirk Pearson, author, "Electronic Music From Scratch": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ken Freedman and Mark Hurst listen to AI: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Andrew Smith, author, "Devil in the Stack": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Our year of surveillance: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Arvind Narayanan, author, "AI Snake Oil": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Nicole Kobie, author, "The Long History of the Future": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Technology we're thankful for, from listeners: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Astronomer Samantha Lawler on Musk's space junk: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Guest host Station Mgr Ken interviews David Suisman on music and the military: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Dystopia update: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Members of the Luddite Club: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Christopher Brown, author, "A Natural History of Empty Lots": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Yaroslav Trofimov, author, "Our Enemies Will Vanish": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Silkie Carlo, director, Big Brother Watch: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Tim Schwab, author, "The Bill Gates Problem": Techtonic with Mark Hurst What if no one wants AI?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Helen Phillips, author, "HUM": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Even more devices are spying on you: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Carl Öhman, author, "The Afterlife of Data": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Guest host Alan on Rancho Mastatal : Techtonic with Mark Hurst Paula Bialski, author, "Middle Tech": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Google antitrust decision party: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Jon Leidecker, aka Wobbly, on Negativland and fair use: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Tech and the sandwich generation: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Guest host Brian D. on disinformation with Kirsten Eddy and Alex Mahadevan: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Generative AI and the "cesspool internet" – with Jason Koebler: Techtonic with Mark Hurst How it started, how it's going: revisiting the warnings of the past: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Carissa Véliz on digital ethics: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Byron Tau, author, "Means of Control": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Listener questions: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Mark Schatzker and "Food, Inc. 2": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Matt Warwick guest hosts Techtonic: What's the best robot?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst We should all switch to Linux: Techtonic with Mark Hurst What's eating Google?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Chris Gilliard on what AI is really for: Techtonic with Mark Hurst "Data Grab" by Ulises Mejias and Nick Couldry: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Michael Shelley on AI-generated music: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Eve Herold, author, "Robots and the People Who Love Them": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Richard Polt, author, "The Typewriter Revolution": Techtonic with Mark Hurst
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Listener comments!

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: Mark! Techtontelligencia!   6:01pm
David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids here gathered. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
Deano de los Muertos: Oh, Hi Mark Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
Handy Haversack: I still haven't picked up 1414, but it remains on the list.

Mark and all.

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tim: Hey Mark and everyone!   6:01pm
Bea: Good evening, Mark and Techtonic friends! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
Bas NL: Hi Mark! Hi all! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
chresti: Hi Mark and markers! Avatar 🤖 6:02pm
sensisio: Yo yo yo Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
Webhamster Henry: Hi Friends! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:05pm
Deano de los Muertos:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:01

*Frangry voice*
“You’re on the list!” Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Mark Hurst: Hi ultra, DiL, Deano, Handy, tim, Bea, Bas, sensisio, webham - welcome! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
S_P_G: Hello Mark and friends! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
coelacanth∅: Greetings Mark, and Paul Bradley Carr Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
Mark Hurst: hi SPG, hi coel Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
Webhamster Henry: Fiction is having a hard time staying fiction these days. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:12pm
Deano de los Muertos:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:11

Mickey 17 felt like I was looking into the near future. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
Handy Haversack: Not thrilled that the copy editors at S&S allowed "who to marry" get through in the promo copy for The Confessions. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
S_P_G: AI contrite and regretful. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
S_P_G: I can see the building, am looking at it right now. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
Handy Haversack: I recently read another Annalee Newitz book, The Terraformers, which I really enjoyed. And they were part of a very good roundtable on Strange Horizons recently:

strangehorizons.com...

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
DjLorraine: Together with starlink what could possibly go wrong/s Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:24pm
S_P_G: I wish we could teach humans empathy.   6:28pm
Bea: Readers of the world, unite! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Bea @6:28

well said, Bea :)   6:34pm
mason: when mike said a bunch of letters with secrets came piling in, i thought they were written by people. That people become so attached to opening up to LLMs, that when it shuts down they’ve lost that connection and need to just get secrets out by any means   6:42pm
Marie in Chicago: I think novels are the more “fun" read compared to other types of books…, nonfiction, how to, etc. Hi Mark, hi All! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Marie in Chicago @6:42

hi Marie, welcome Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
coelacanth∅: i'm "old" and i've never read a book via screen, and likely never will.
i spend more than enough time reading stuff online that's not available as a book.   6:44pm
Marie in Chicago: George Simenon’s Maigret deteictive series is like that. They are amazing.   6:44pm
Marie in Chicago:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:42

Thanks, Mark! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:45pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:42

One reason I strongly prefer print books is because I can write annotations in the margins. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:47pm
Deano de los Muertos: I can just picture Zuck feverishly taking notes under a single LED bulb while listening to Techtonic   6:47pm
Marie in Chicago: Mark, I filed an online complaint with the online IC3 a week or so ago and called in about Grok’s stripping capabilities. I also called the FCC. I was so mad about that. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Marie in Chicago @6:47

Nice work. Yep - an outrage.   6:49pm
Marie in Chicago: A book lis like dipping your mind into a stream. It can be so calming and centering Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
evancuts: Read the whole Bascome trilogy. Independence Day is a masterpiece. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
evancuts: Besides Richard Ford, also loved the Fred Exley Fan's Notes trilogy.   6:51pm
Marie in Chicago:

↳ evancuts @6:49

Hey, I’m gonna have to check those out. Thanks! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
S_P_G: Just down the street from me. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:52pm
Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark, Paul. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:52pm
tim: Great conversation! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm
S_P_G: Great interview. Thanks Mark! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Paul! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
Deano de los Muertos: Thanks Mark, sounds like some interesting titles. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
evancuts:

↳ Marie in Chicago @6:51

Independence Day takes place in a fictional town in New Jersey. I had a chance to ask him where exactly that was... sort of a fictional town that I would guess is sort of like Little Silver or perhaps somewhere in western Monmouth County horse country. Such a beautiful book. Can't recommend it enough.   6:55pm
Marie in Chicago: I see a articles that question whehter AI will hit a wall and all that investment will go down the drain   6:56pm
Marie in Chicago:

↳ evancuts @6:55

wow, cool, sounds great! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Deano de los Muertos:

↳ evancuts @6:55

right around where I live now   6:56pm
chresti: Thanks Mark and Bradley Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
Will thee SG OCNY: Thank you Mark Hurst!!!   6:57pm
chresti: Thanks Paul Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
evancuts:

↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:56

You'll love it!   6:58pm
Marie in Chicago: I’m reading a novel by a Russian medieval scholar and the book is set in medieval Russia. It’s really good, serious, deep. It’s called Laurus Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
bleubombersune: Thanks Mark all stray safe and be well   6:58pm
chresti: Karl!   6:58pm
Marie in Chicago: Thanks, Mark and Paul! Ciao, all! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
S_P_G: is this Karl Ward? Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
coelacanth∅: Thanks Mark! Thanks Paul! Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
coelacanth∅:

↳ S_P_G @6:59

yes Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
Mark Hurst: Yes karlward! Thanks, everyone