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Mark! Techtobberbarons!
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Hi Mark, techies.
In the netherlands, people are actively promoting to leave big tech on februari first. Is it an international movement?
Also NGO bots of freedom is screaming out a call to action to our gouvernement to leave the social platforms that are run by big tech.
Marleen Stikker has been up on the radio and newspapers to inform us a.
Exciting times! Finally
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Mark, Techyon Drives.
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Evening Mark and all Technoids here gathered.
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Hello Mark and rest
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Hi Mark! Heys all!
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Hello, Mark and billionaire's row!
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Machinarium soundtrack!!!
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Hi Mark and techtonians!
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Bots of freedom hehe, i mean bits of freedom
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Salutations fellow oligarchy survivors
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hallo there everybody!
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I was lucky enough to get to hang out with Tomas and his ensemble in Chicago in November, really swell group of Czechs!
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Hello Mark and techies.
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Hello Mark and techtonicians.
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back to the madness
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...and enough of that!
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Looking through the images for this week 🤢
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Hi Hi Hi
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Kirk Pearson's book should be arriving at my local bookstore in the next day or two. Very much looking forward to it :)
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Good evening. I learned how to solder electronics back in 1976 as a teenager. It's still enjoyable to do things manually.
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Been diving into circuitry, I’ll need to check out that show. I’m heavily inspired by LookMumNoComputer. Great resource for this sort of stuff
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Hey! Got a weird tech question for you. I noticed this week that The NY Times website can now tell when I take a screenshot on my iphone of one of their articles. I do this often to post a paragraph or two I’m discussing online). I know it’s aware I took a screenshot because it immediately says “Use a gift article to share this story. Your screen shot will be shared too”.
How can I disable this creepy feature? And can all apps and websites tell when I take private actions on my iOS?
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Meta moves content mod to TX (with eye toward bringing in community notes)...while Twitter brought in the option of have Grok explain posts (with an eye toward getting rid of community notes)
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LookMumNoComputer is flippin’ amazing. would love to visit him and his museum someday.
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Hugo (NL) @6:02
2029: boots of freedom.
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ms boo @6:07
Lots of people use archive.is to read paywalled content
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ms boo @6:07
Might need to get a second camera to take a picture of the phone.
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...and, after the salute kerfuffle and the unconvincing 'roman' excuse, Musk went and addressed the far right Alternative for Germany people
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Couldn't agree with you more, Mark. Thanks so much for talking about this.
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Gilded Age 2.0
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Ken From Hyde Park @6:08
Awesome title!
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ms boo @6:07
By not using a surveillance phone to access it for starters, I'd think. And then maybe go a step further:
archive.ph...
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PaulRobeson1925 @6:10
💯 They are our modern day "Robber Barons."
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ultradamno @6:10
If it quacks like a Nazi...
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Check out Ted Gioia's recent post on Substack that compares big tech to the East India Trading Company.
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Hi techtonicers! Thanks so much for covering this topic, Mark.
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Deepseek? what about them?
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Handy Haversack @6:10
Why can't we make our own phones and load our own programming?
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fantastic political cartoons on this page!
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On the upside, now that he is just one billionaire in a line, it makes his stint as shadow president likely to end soon.
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Do folks really believe that as these CEO/Oligarchs buy policy and the federal government races towards a kleptocracy there won't be more Luigi Mangiones springing up in the corners of the USA? I'm not saying that's right, but how far do you bend the stick until it snaps?
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That wasn't Tim Cook, that was Tim Apple!
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Did they receive an invitation? Or was it any million payer welcome?
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Webhamster Henry @6:14
tim apple heeee oh how shitty it all is
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Folks: don't say billion, say "thousand million". People have only a vague idea of what a billon is, that's how they get away with it. For New Yorkers, $1 million gets you a so-so 1 bedroom apartment.
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And Tesla makes a great deal of its profits by selling pollution offsets to other polluters.
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Vivek has already jumped ship from DOGE...my bet is the whole thing will never happen.
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What do you all think? What is the real motivation for all these big tech rich people? They want to be the next president? Or just be close to those with politocal power?
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Hugo (NL) @6:18
get richer!
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A house divided esk
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ultradamno @6:17
That on top of reports that Elon's access is being limited
www.msn.com...
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also, hello everyone.
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ultradamno @6:13
getting rid of the penny, that's a good idea.
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I like that there's one coin that isn't silver...they're good for fountain throwing too
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The Oligarchy. When you’re here, you’re family.
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Mark for President 2028
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Blutocracy, govt of bullies
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hope trumpski isn't listening to this show. never know what he might do.
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USA dropped English system for the french model and look how that worked out.
Sharpen the guillotine
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we be leaning to a plutocracy
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If a Russian oligarch offends Putin, they're pushed out a window.
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The ol' "KPO" - has a ring to it, which I'd like to un-ring
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Nobody wants to hear they gotta give something up
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mark: “i told you so” us: (nodding heads)
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In Mark, we trust
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You told us so!
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unscrupulous, incompetent, greedy. probably unhygienic too.
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SPEAK THE TRUTH, MARK! STOP THESE BILLIONAIRE PIGS!
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What's the form of government called again?
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PaulRobeson1925 @6:24
Americans don’t want to hear they have to give something up.
The 1% and the average American. Joe and frank and billy and Susan and jane and Jennifer
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Cacastrophy is a direct result of enshitification.
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No big tech or us are not the only two choices.
"Us" is a many-splintered group!
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people be giving up their kids before handing over their phone. it's like crack in the 80's. Tech addiction!
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Christoph @6:26
mockracy
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ultradamno @6:19
Well, throwing cold water on Dear Leader's big AI plans isn't the best way to get along...then again, there's the news from China today...
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We are ruled by capitalism, which for the last few centuries has fluctuated between democracy and fascism, but is always about money in the end
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Catocrsy over kakistrocracy
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I'm anti-big-tech, but how can I tell that the other people claiming that care about MY best interests?
Just gimme a Pepsi already.
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Tangled up tubes!
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And now we have another potential pandemic brewing, coupled with the raids on migrant workers harvesting our foods...what could possibly go wrong?
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I know of at least one Democratic congressperson that calls themselves a "doge democrat." puke!
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Ralph Nader (who I voted for president twice) said the only difference between Republicans and Democrats is the speed at which they fall to their knees when big business comes calling.
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Blooskeee, I always say
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DjLorraine @6:28
Hi DjLorraine! I second that meow.
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Give up some of yer money. Mr.Elon? For the good of the country. for the good of your fellow man? Please?
Will the answer be? Over my dead body. Or yes, please. I love my fellow man. Or something else?
How do we bring about a loving society? What would our loving American society look like?
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it was an "Übermensch" salute... he believes himself to be the evolution of huimanity.
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All the other MAGA Nazis know what Elon meant.
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It's easy to blame tech, but the problem (that we're not allowed to mention - Dems won't let us say it!) is capitalism.
Capitalism was the root cause of the last millenium's slavery. Fascism exists only as a special case of capitalism. Capitalism is the poison.
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The German newspapers called E-lawn's gesture a N@zi salute, that's what it was.
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For one, if I found myself being labeled as part of that group, and could clarify that indeed I am not, I'd say that? Just spitballin'
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Hi Mark Hurst and all!!!
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Elon: He's not stupid. Even if he didn't intend it to be a nazi salute, he's smart enough to know what it is. An adult will understand that the should admit their mistake and move on. So, we can conclude that either he meant it; or it was a dumb mistake, not meant the way it looked, but he's not morally upright enough to admit what it looks like. It can't possibly true that he's not familiar with that gesture.
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drew @6:31
Amen, drew. I say let's get rid of $.
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*Kakistocracy
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That look on his face when doing it didn't help
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Elon is a little boy with an overactive cock. He should be reigned in.
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...also that he turned around and did it again with seconds to think 'is this a good idea?'
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You were right again Mark..this episode is pretty depressing 😂
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Schrödinger's Douchebag
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One who makes douchebag statements, particularly sexist, racist or otherwise bigoted ones, then decides whether they were “just joking” or dead serious based on whether other people in the group approve or not.
"Oh man women should just stay in the kitchen, it's the only place they're useful"
*with one group* "Haha just kidding, that's sexist"
*with anther* "lol amirite"
"You're a total schrodinger’s douchebag you know that right?"
www.urbandictionary.com...
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Elon turned against his own kid for trans reasons. I don't care about your stance on trans issues. What parent would ever do that?
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Democracy also requires a highly literate society
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Elon Muskie is goddamn robot. his circuits got fried and he made one of his infamous spazzy movements. only explanation.
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America never had a democracy. We were a capitalist experiment, Mark.
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muskie is a robot. only explanation.
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@Tom: Pike over Muskie.
Actually, I thought Hump had a heart. But that's too long ago . . .
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is this a deepfake?
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He may, in a jar
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Thanks for this, Mark. I think the Guardian is a good paper. Robert Reich has some good articles in there about how to deal with Musk and how to deal with having the Trump admin in.I was glad to hear today that a Chinese AI development undercut some bad-acting American companies
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And she (Vivian) has recently started to respond about how awful he is online. No matter what Muskrat says, he's still her father. He cannot escape that fact. What a monster.
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"Can a brother get a tax cut?"
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No one in that family can sit right
i.ebayimg.com...
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I might be spinning up a NodeBB federated (Mosto compatible) instance. NodeBB is a forum-based kind of system, so , I'm thinking, not constrained by post sized character count.
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I'm @
[email protected] on Mastodon How about all of y'all?
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No algorithm. Yet.
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haha I hoped someone would bring that up
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I'm there
mastodon.social...
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@WM Henry: for us . . .?
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drew @6:45
I'll have to get to know it before loosing it on the public, but really, the WFMU chat board is the best social media!
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how does mastodon make money?
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The thing is the Mastodon Server is supposed to be kind of limited to an existing community - there's a way to just follow posting on your local server, as well as getting messages from other feeds...
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The problem with Mastodon (or others) is that no one uses them.
Then again look at us on WFMU's crappy board software!
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I need a drink
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You can still use FIDOnet - dialup BBS system! Just try to monetize THAT!
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drew @6:48
That's actually... nonsense.
There are vibrant communities on both Mastodon and Bluesky.
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drew @6:48
crappy!? bite your tongue. ;)
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Blue Sky is good for following informative journalists and scholars. Relieved to be in a zone with no ads. Enjoying it while it lasts.
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@Carlos Mastodon is free. Intentionally. Because not everyone who writes code wants to exploit you!
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Not using drink as a slang word for consuming the drug Alcohol. I actually need a drink.
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Water please
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BS is what it says on the tin. And it's all liberal BS, too.
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Blueski, I will call it blue sky sometime after I first call twitter x
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@mark IGNORE INSTAGRAM!!
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EEK that’s not good
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Is that a violation of free speech? Considering the size of IG and FB?
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I must ask this question Mark. If these platforms don't generate income, isn't it conceivable that they are surveillance tools of the new oligarchs? In other words, Musk and the rest know liberals may not post on their platforms, so they set one up to monitor their "enemies"?
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Should be mandatory listening all over the world, this show. Thanks, Mark. As ever.
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Musk tried to call something else "x" before. It's sorta weird:
www.forbes.com...
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Speaking of Zuck hiding things on his platforms
www.msn.com...
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I'm playing in that sandbox too, of course!
pixelfed.social...
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The techtonic signoff needs a few more entries, indeed!
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You have a point drew, but I hold on to what Margaret Mead said: “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed, citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.”
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like chatgpt?
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Thanks Mark.
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I've been wanting an alternative to Goodreads!!
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@Cool John:
MM had a small sample set!
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Do use Bookshop.org instead of Amazon!
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Being a Liberal, as of 1965, in America means you believe all people are born innately good and we need laws that reflect this.
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Cooh, sorry
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There's no end to Meta's recent fuckery:
"Facebook flags Linux topics as 'cybersecurity threats' — posts and users being blocked"
www.tomshardware.com...
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Ya know, when everyone was signing up to FaceBox and all these platforms, I saw the future, knew it would be a sh**show, so I continue to not be on any. Except this chat board.
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The word Liberal had been co-opted and changed to fit what power in America says it means.
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Mark, I wish you could get a short article listening all these alternatives in the NYT and other large publications
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Just got my business email transferred to FastMail. Gotta get onto Nextcloud...
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alibris is great for buying books—you buy directly from small bookshops. they have EVERYTHING.
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listening=listing
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Mark doesn't hawk his own website on here, because he's great, but check his WFMU user profile. He puts in the work for us!
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Thanks, Mark. Welcome to the resistance!
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PaulRobeson1925 @6:56
Has been co-opted* and turned into a dirty word.
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whoo hooo
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PaulRobeson1925 @6:55
Being a liberal white person in the US in 1965 means that black people are in their place . . . somewhere else!
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Yes!
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Thanks Mark!
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Thanks, Mark!! Thanks everybody for the lively chat!!
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Thanks Mark!!!!!
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Wonderful Mark.
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Thanks Man.
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Good show!
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thank you, Mark!
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Thanks Mark
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Thanks so much Mark! We need more of you in the world!
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PaulRobeson1925 @6:57
Similar to political correctness . MLK in his lifetime would of been considered Polticaly correct- meaning living ones life in accordance with morally good political ideals
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thank you mark!
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best show ever
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Thanks, Mark!
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Rugged individualism for the poor and candy for owners of the mine and mill
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Thanks Mark
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Thank you Mark Hurst!!!
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I always appreciate how Mark Hurst helps liberals "radicalize" and move just half a step to the left.
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Thanks, everyone!
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Don't be like oligarchs, be like Markliarchs!
