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Techtonic with Mark Hurst | WFMU

Evan Selinger and Albert Fox Cahn, authors, "Move Slow and Upgrade": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Dystopia update: good news edition: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Janet Vertesi, founder of the Opt Out Project: Techtonic with Mark Hurst A visit to Repair Cafe El Barrio: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 2 w/cohost Jesse Jarnow: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 1 w/cohost station manager Ken Freedman: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Celebrating 400 episodes of Techtonic: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Chris Gilliard on Amazon’s admission that Ring spies on us: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Peter Dear ("The World As We Know It") and how we interpret AI: Techtonic with Mark Hurst AI is spreading where it doesn't belong: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Peter Schmidt on the book "Attensity" by the Friends of Attention: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Paul Bradley Carr, author, "The Confessions": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Lora Kolodny from CNBC on Grok's sexualized images: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ken Freedman and Mark discuss the year ahead: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Tim Wu, author, "The Age of Extraction": Techtonic with Mark Hurst The Ghost of Christmas Tech Anxieties - Sara Clemens and Stu Horvath fill in, with guest Adam Allsuch Boardman: Techtonic with Mark Hurst The first annual Creepy Awards: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Noah McCormack from The Baffler: "We used to read things in this country": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Amateur radio is a superpower: Thomas Witherspoon: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Citizens are being forced to pay for Big Tech data centers, feat. Pat Garofalo: Techtonic with Mark Hurst How low can the tech oligarchs go?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Paul Mozur on the spread of data centers: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Aram Sinnreich, co-author, "The Secret Life of Data": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Filmmaker Amanda Hanna-McLeer on the Luddite renaissance: Techtonic with Mark Hurst The protest against smartphones, with Logan Lane: Techtonic with Mark Hurst AI and surveillance keep spreading: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Megan Greenwell, author, "Bad Company: Private Equity and the Death of the American Dream": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Glenn Adamson, author, "A Century of Tomorrows": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Joseph Weizenbaum warned us about AI 50 years ago (feat. Faine Greenwood): Techtonic with Mark Hurst Milestones for Big Tech... and Techtonic: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Cory Doctorow, author and journalist: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Webb Keane, author, "Animals, Robots, Gods": Techtonic with Mark Hurst If/Then/Else - Sara Clemens and Stu Horvath fill in, with guest Brendan Keogh: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Adam Becker, author, "More Everything Forever": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Three emerging dystopias: money, water, and truth: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Duncan Moench on "soylent screens" and producerism: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ed Park, author, "An Oral History of Atlantis": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Daniel Solove, author, "On Privacy and Technology": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Burn Hollywood Burn - Will AI save the movies? Dan Morfitt fills in with guest John Ashbrook: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Compulsory surveillance and other threats: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Lori Emerson, author, "Other Networks": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Unveiling our new theme song by Kirk Pearson, and Big Tech alternatives: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Matt Warwick fills in for Techtonic with Co-Host HurstBot: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Emily M. Bender and Alex Hanna, authors, "The AI Con": Techtonic with Mark Hurst David Greenwood, author, "The Cloud Intern": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Surveillance scholar Chris Gilliard on Facebook's spy glasses: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Discussing "Careless People" by Facebook whistleblower Sarah Wynn-Williams: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Sybil Derrible, author, "The Infrastructure Book": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Dan Morfitt and Mark Hurst discuss dystopian movies: Techtonic with Mark Hurst The Defunding of Public Radio with Jesse Walker, Uri Berliner and Sue Matters: Techtonic with Mark Hurst John Warner, author, "More Than Words": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Sue-Lin Wong and online scams: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Emergency surveillance update: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Liz Pelly, author, "Mood Machine": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ben Snyder, author, "Spy Plane": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 2 w/cohost Matt Warwick: Techtonic with Mark Hurst AI and the future of war – with "Flash Wars" director Daniel Wunderer: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Nick Couldry, author, "The Space of the World": Techtonic with Mark Hurst August Lamm: you don't need a smartphone: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Supervillains in tech – with Greg Epstein, Chris Gilliard, and Jim Starlin: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Welcome to the oligarchy: on Big Tech's government takeover: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Kirk Pearson, author, "Electronic Music From Scratch": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ken Freedman and Mark Hurst listen to AI: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Andrew Smith, author, "Devil in the Stack": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Our year of surveillance: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Arvind Narayanan, author, "AI Snake Oil": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Nicole Kobie, author, "The Long History of the Future": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Technology we're thankful for, from listeners: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Astronomer Samantha Lawler on Musk's space junk: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Guest host Station Mgr Ken interviews David Suisman on music and the military: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Dystopia update: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Members of the Luddite Club: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Christopher Brown, author, "A Natural History of Empty Lots": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Yaroslav Trofimov, author, "Our Enemies Will Vanish": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Silkie Carlo, director, Big Brother Watch: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Tim Schwab, author, "The Bill Gates Problem": Techtonic with Mark Hurst What if no one wants AI?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Helen Phillips, author, "HUM": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Even more devices are spying on you: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Carl Öhman, author, "The Afterlife of Data": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Guest host Alan on Rancho Mastatal : Techtonic with Mark Hurst Paula Bialski, author, "Middle Tech": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Google antitrust decision party: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Jon Leidecker, aka Wobbly, on Negativland and fair use: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Tech and the sandwich generation: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Guest host Brian D. on disinformation with Kirsten Eddy and Alex Mahadevan: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Generative AI and the "cesspool internet" – with Jason Koebler: Techtonic with Mark Hurst How it started, how it's going: revisiting the warnings of the past: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Carissa Véliz on digital ethics: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Byron Tau, author, "Means of Control": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Listener questions: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Mark Schatzker and "Food, Inc. 2": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Matt Warwick guest hosts Techtonic: What's the best robot?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst We should all switch to Linux: Techtonic with Mark Hurst What's eating Google?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Chris Gilliard on what AI is really for: Techtonic with Mark Hurst "Data Grab" by Ulises Mejias and Nick Couldry: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Michael Shelley on AI-generated music: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Eve Herold, author, "Robots and the People Who Love Them": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Richard Polt, author, "The Typewriter Revolution": Techtonic with Mark Hurst
Widening inequality and Big Tech surveillance, feat. Dan Currell: Techtonic with Mark Hurst
ultradamno · 2025-10-28 · via Techtonic with Mark Hurst | WFMU

Listener comments!

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 5:57pm
: Mark! Techtavenots! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:00pm
Spikey BXL: Mark, luddites Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:00pm
Deano de los Muertos: Wazzap Mark, and gang Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:00pm
Handy Haversack: Mark and the Techyons!   6:01pm
malĥerbo (nl): Hi Mark! And fellow Tochtenicans! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
tim: Hi Mark and everyone! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Goo evening Mark and techies. Or anti-techies. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Hugo (NL): Hi everyone! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
Bas NL: Hi Mark! Hi all! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
PaulRobeson1925: Hi Hi Hi   6:06pm
New Dave: Its now the "whorehouse" Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
dale: they did no asbestos remediation either. just knocked it down and let the stuff go airborne. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Those rich tech weenies did what Al-Qaeda failed to do on September 11. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
tim:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:07

Whoa! That's food for thought. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
Mark Hurst: Hi ultra, Spikey, Deano, Handy, malĥerbo, tim, Peter, Hugo, Bas, PaulR, New Dave, dale, KfHP - thanks for joining! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
San Pedro Girl: Hi Mark and everyone. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ San Pedro Girl @6:09

hi SPG, thanks for joining   6:09pm
chresti: Ew Disney World Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

↳ tim @6:08

I also saw an image online where the new wing is the Kremlin.   6:11pm
chresti: Hi Mark and techtoniques! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
tim:

↳ San Pedro Girl @6:09

Hey San Pedro Girl. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:12pm
San Pedro Girl:

↳ tim @6:11

Hi Tim! Avatar 6:15pm
MIster Mark: This is relating to the looming SPECTRE of dynamic pricing coming soon 2 a grocery store 👁️ near you keep an eye out 4 this garbage 👀🧐 Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
Bas NL: Very Important Poor (to be) Avatar 6:15pm
morphe': There are some great older books about Disney =
"Team Rodent: How Disney Devours the World "
and
"Vinyl Leaves: Walt Disney World and America (Institutional Structures of Feeling)"
and

a title I canna' remember ...

Avatar 6:16pm
MIster Mark: 🔥👁️🔥 pledge.wfmu.org... Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:16pm
Folsom: Hello Mark! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:17pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Folsom @6:16

hi Folsom, Mr Mark, morphe' Avatar 6:18pm
morphe':

↳ morphe' @6:15

3rd Title:

Inside the Mouse:
Work and Play at Disney World

Avatar 6:18pm
MIster Mark:

↳ MIster Mark @6:15

We still stroll thru stores N95 mask and phone wi-fi and location settings off   6:19pm
Marie in Chicago: I missed a flight around Christmastime at LaGuardia once and I was bumped around all day because I didn't have any kind of special status/membership. They asked me for that at every counter, first thing Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Marie in Chicago @6:19

perfect example Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
tim:

↳ Marie in Chicago @6:19

Hey Marie! Avatar 6:22pm
MIster Mark: kinda ticked our adult labour years helped create several of those super affluent crapitalist families thought they were just cool bosses at the time 🤷   6:22pm
Marie in Chicago:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:21

tx, HI! @)   6:22pm
Marie in Chicago:

↳ tim @6:22

Hi Tim! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
Webhamster Henry: I can summarize a story: a community not for profit whose leader discovered that it was way more time consuming and expensive to go after small donors in their community than to go after a few really big ones. The board booted him. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
San Pedro Girl:

↳ Marie in Chicago @6:22

Hi Marie! Avatar 6:23pm
MIster Mark: trying 2 remember who did the "DATA! MORE DATA! WE NEED MORE DATA! movie(?) clip.. Albert Brooks? Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Sara Clemens: This interview is so my jam – the hubs is from LA and we enjoy turning a day trip to Disneyland into a game of how to ride everything we want, eat everyting we want, and usually score some exclusive or elusive trinket, too (we've become really good at it, though we've found we have to pay the premium price to get everything we want done in one day). But on an observational level, I find the ever-changing and weird class stratifications at Disney so fascinating. Avatar 6:24pm
MIster Mark: Think about how much 💸 is still needlessly skimmed by kredit kard kompanies   6:24pm
Marie in Chicago: I believe some of this unequal wealth distribution really took off in the 90s with the loss of unions and good-paying labor jobs. Then there was the amazing wealth accumulation by some of population in the Stockmarket.. and I think tax laws were changed to lower taxes for the wealthy Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ morphe' @6:18

Not to mention "How to Read Donald Duck" by Ariel Dorfman (en.wikipedia.org...) Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Sara Clemens @6:23

glad you're enjoying it, Sara - interesting that you've seen this in the park, too Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ Marie in Chicago @6:24

I refer to the oft posted chart of American wages vs productivity since 1970. www.epi.org... Avatar 6:27pm
MIster Mark: Artificial scarcity coming faster and harder in just a couple days please help your neighbors who are struggling to afford groceries etc. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:27pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:26

that's a good one Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
tim: Do the elites also lose their privacy when they purchase the premium s? Avatar 6:29pm
MIster Mark:

↳ MIster Mark @6:27

rope lines 4 waiting in line..
hyped event not enuff room..
due the math   6:30pm
chresti: Disney stinks! Avatar 6:30pm
MIster Mark:

↳ tim @6:29

likely they don't need 2 care they're not in the crosshairs and/or they're profiting coming *and* going Avatar 6:30pm
Fredericks:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:07

Destroy America? Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Bas NL: A local concerthall has an option to pay a little extra on a ticket to sponsor someone less fortunate to get a discount or free ticket. Avatar 6:32pm
MIster Mark: honestly done with summer music festivals with tiered VIP sections etc. time 2 go back 2 one low entry fee doesn't mean you have 2 have breakfast in bed inn the mud mind U Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Bas NL @6:32

that's a good idea   6:33pm
Marie in Chicago:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:26

hey, Henry! What a great article--so much data/info. Looks like a great site too. I know some people on the right have wanted just this kind of situation.They want more of a third-world version of the US. Thanks for sharing! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:34pm
Sara Clemens:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:25

Dan's right that they're really good at hiding it if they have to opportunity to, which is in itself interesting!   6:35pm
Marie in Chicago:

↳ chresti @6:30

Yeah, Disney sucks! What's the big deal? Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:35pm
tim: Do you pull on Dumbo's ear to reveal the Club 33 entrance? Avatar 6:38pm
MIster Mark:

↳ tim @6:35

If you rub Abe Lincoln's bronze statue nose Springfield, IL on field trips they let you graduate grammar school Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
tim: I refuse to patronize places that does not take cash. Avatar 🤖 6:40pm
herb.nyc: Hola. Not a fan of Disney. Now even less. Our society is so classist.

And “Disney is an analytics…” is a spinoff of what Phil knight said of Nike, “we’re not a shoe company. We’re a marketing company”. (I think Phil said this, many years ago)

Avatar 6:40pm
MIster Mark: p.s. when your olders elders crankily complain about QR code menus at restaurants they're not wrong Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
tim:

↳ MIster Mark @6:40

Complain about QR code menus. Screw that crap! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
Sara Clemens: I hate being expected to use our phones for everything these days!   6:41pm
Marie in Chicago: I can't access my workplace systems without an authenticator app on my phone that requires internet access Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ Marie in Chicago @6:33

Thanks! I'm nothing if not an inveterate linker! Avatar 6:42pm
MIster Mark:

↳ herb.nyc @6:40

bingo on the Nike connection.. they're this close 2 destructo mode Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
dale: it's like how the insurance companies charge you a higher rate if you have a good credit score.   6:42pm
Marie in Chicago: hee hee hee @) Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ herb.nyc @6:40

Well, decades ago, GM said they weren't a car company, they were a car-loan company. Avatar 6:43pm
MIster Mark:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:42

GM proving it ever since Avatar 6:43pm
MIster Mark:

↳ MIster Mark @6:43

except we the sheeple are the loan backers for every bailout Avatar 🤖 6:43pm
herb.nyc:

↳ Song: "Theme from Techtonic" by "Kirk Pearson"

re the east wing demolition, some are saying theres a secret bunker under the site. And that it will be updated. Crazy tawk, or true?   6:44pm
Marie in Chicago: I believe in San Fran some websites were showing shifting apartment rental prices for individuals. Avatar 6:44pm
MIster Mark: Delta CEO 2021 is why mask and Covid precautions were rolled back in search of ever more 💸💸💸 Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:45pm
Bas NL: I had a discussion about a locker to be payed with an online google pay account. It was four euro.. As an alternate i could pay 2 euro by debit card.. and received a two euro coin to use on an old money-only locker... :) Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:46pm
dale:

↳ herb.nyc @6:43

pretty sure there is a shelter underneath. fallout or bugout, you decide. Avatar 6:46pm
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MIster Mark: Private concierges are just slaves by another name   6:47pm
Bea: Hyper personalization - so creepy!!! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:47pm
Sara Clemens:

↳ MIster Mark @6:46

Yeah! Let's raise some hell! Avatar 6:47pm
morphe':

↳ herb.nyc @6:43

I read = in the Guardian or Politico or ? that indeed Gov't/Military workers will be doing the underground changes/demo for security reasons.. Avatar 6:47pm
MIster Mark:

↳ MIster Mark @6:47

Hyper bespoke narcissisms R US Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm
Webhamster Henry: That birthday present service was a funny plot point in The Devil Wears Prada. Avatar 6:48pm
Mark T: Let me state the obvious. The economy is controlled by truly evil human beings. The filth at the top tiers of these companies and the biggest investors are money worshipping filth and scum. These entities will do ANYTHING to ANYONE for money. 💵 💴 💰 Avatar 6:48pm
MIster Mark: "Leaving money on the table" that same phrase when the TicketBastards etc. manipulate concert seating Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
Ken From Hyde Park: The Haves, the Have-nots and the No-thank-yous. Avatar 🤖 6:49pm
herb.nyc:

↳ MIster Mark @6:48

I get a small consolation when I’m able to buy tix at < retail Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ MIster Mark @6:48

Yes - the line I've read is: a sold out show means the ticket prices aren't high enough. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
Webhamster Henry: I'm just throwing in a little low-key plug for the WFMU Hellraiser here. Money Well Spent! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
Bas NL: It's all like living in the Middle Ages again.   6:52pm
pizzacrank: tragic that we prolly have the ability to solve almost every problem in the world but we get all this instead   6:52pm
Marie in Chicago: In terms of healthcare, all we have to do is look up North (Canada) for a darn good system Avatar 6:52pm
MIster Mark:

↳ Mark T @6:48

🎯 and wouldn't it be lovely to break these cycles of abuse? Put a little pressure on billionaires and the super affluent? Along with a *slight* tax increase? And Medicare 4 All?

www.youtube.com...

Avatar 6:53pm
morphe':

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:25

Ah yes ... "How to Read Donald Duck" by Ariel Dorfman ..I still have my copy ... The books above though are very specifically about physical space, employment practices and such ... Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Yay, for-profit health care! Won't anyone think of the shareholders? Avatar 6:53pm
MIster Mark: Thank you, Mark! And WFMU!

📻✌️🙏✊

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  6:53pm
Marie in Chicago: The sad thing is, is if working and middle class people keep voting for people who are not looking out for thier financial interests, none of this will change Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
dale: that tiny little class will run out of customers soon. Avatar 6:54pm
MarciB: Seems like the goal of the current regime is to privatize everything. Avatar 6:54pm
MIster Mark:

↳ MarciB @6:54

🎯   6:55pm
Marie in Chicago: Sorry to get political here but the republican party is NOT the friend of the working or middle class Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
Peter from Saranac Lake NY: I'm on Medicare. I'd love to have only a 7% premium increase. Next year, my supplemental health insurance premium will go up 19%. My prescription drug insurance will rise 45%. Anyone here gotten a 45% raise? Asing for a friend. Avatar 6:55pm
MIster Mark:

↳ Marie in Chicago @6:53

🎯 Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
Peter from Saranac Lake NY:

↳ Marie in Chicago @6:55

Don't be sorry. Not an insult when it's true. Avatar 6:55pm
MIster Mark:

↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @6:55

Stay safe, Peter, blessings 2 you Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ Marie in Chicago @6:53

"Voting" is heavily reliant on a primary process to run people worth voting for. And "the people" are usually cut out of that process, which is why Mamdani's primary win is the right direction for political change. Getting ranked choice voting everywhere will also help. Avatar 6:56pm
MIster Mark:

↳ Marie in Chicago @6:55

sorry to say the obvious rethuglicans are nazis Avatar 6:56pm
MarciB:

↳ Marie in Chicago @6:53

The R's long term goal was to eradicate critical thinking and ethics classes in public high schools...so the R are reaping the benefits of a much dumber population now   6:56pm
Marie in Chicago:

↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @6:55

thank you. I get the impression that a lot of WFMU listeners lump all politicians together and think there is no difference between the parties. If you think that you are not paying attention Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
B R M: This show grows more essential year after year, unfortunately. Thank you, Mark. Avatar 6:57pm
morphe':

↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @6:55

Ya should watch the last John Oliver episode = all about Medicare... Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ morphe' @6:57

Or rather Medicare Advantage. But also Medicare. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
Mike Sin: What's amazing about all of this, if you've lived long enough, is how, say, about 40 years ago, necessities were cheap, but luxuries were expensive as hell. I think the TV my father bought in 1984 was way more expensive than his employer-based health insurance. The diversions were made a lot cheaper for a reason! But healthcare and education is out of reach now.... Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
bleubombersune: Mark and Dan thanks   6:58pm
Marie in Chicago: Yes, they want a third world county with a permanent underclass and no government aid Avatar 6:58pm
MIster Mark:

↳ Mike Sin @6:57

🎯 Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Dan! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark. Tell people "May you enjoy living under the system you voted for." Avatar 6:58pm
morphe': Thanks Mark and all ...   6:58pm
Marie in Chicago:

↳ MarciB @6:56

Hi, above comment meant to reply to you Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Tim: Thanks, Mark! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
chresti: 10 Bucks!

Thanks Mark!

Avatar 6:59pm
Mark T: Thanks for the free link Avatar 6:59pm
phancy: Thanks for another great show Mark. I am reading Bad Company now thanks to you.   6:59pm
pizzacrank: the democratic party is certainly better but they have definitely failed us. they're still capitalists and protecting their interests Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
Deano de los Muertos: Thank you, Mark Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
Webhamster Henry: Thanks Mark, Dan & listeners! Avatar 7:00pm
MIster Mark:

↳ pizzacrank @6:59

🎯 Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Blobs: Bitcoin Avatar 7:00pm
MarciB:

↳ Marie in Chicago @6:58

Yes 100%!   7:00pm
pizzacrank: gn! Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Blobs: Thank you, Mark!   7:01pm
Marie in Chicago:

↳ pizzacrank @6:59

I wouldn't say the failed us. I would say that the people failed us. Ignorant people who vote against their own interests Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:26pm
Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark!