Listener comments!

🤖 ♥ 5:56pm
: Mark! Techtognitos! 🤖 ♥ 5:59pm
Handy Haversack: Mark and the Techyons!   6:00pm
David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids here gathered. ♥ 6:01pm
PaulRobeson1925: Hi Hi Hi 🤖 ♥ 6:01pm
Bas NL: Hi Mark! Hi all! 🤖 ♥ 6:02pm
Deano de los Muertos: Howdy Mark and all 🤖 ♥ 6:03pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

↳ Song: "Mark's intro"

That must be an illustration from Aesop's fable The Tiger and the Hay Bailer. 🤖 ♥ 6:04pm
Webhamster Henry: Hi Techtonicats! 🤖 ♥ 6:04pm
ultradamno: www.thewrap.com... ♥ 6:07pm
Mark Hurst: Hi ultra, Handy, DiL, PaulR, Bas, Deano, KfHP, webham - welcome!   6:07pm
Fredericks: I frequently chuckle when some podcasts have ads in Spanish and mention Chicago. Now, I'm starting to worry. 🤖 ♥ 6:07pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:03

*Baler   6:08pm
Fredericks:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:03

i'm not familiar with that one. ♥ 6:09pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:03

heh good one ♥ 6:09pm
StringOFperils: Howdy folks ♥ 6:09pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ StringOFperils @6:09

Hi StringOFp, hi Fredericks   6:10pm
Fredericks:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:09

Hey there, Mark. ♥ 6:13pm
PaulRobeson1925: Perhaps, there is a direct line between our nations bill of rights crushing Drug Policy and our current state of affairs 🤖 ♥ 6:17pm
Handy Haversack: I never even set the date and time on my digital camera, and I won't hook it up to WiFi for obvious reasons -- it offered geotagging as a feature not a bug! So all my pix are from 1/1/2015.   ♥ 6:18pm
Teknishun: Facebook strips off the exif data, at least for the other user,
but maybe they store that for their own use?   ♥ 6:19pm
Teknishun:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:17

Sounds horrible for file management 🤖 ♥ 6:20pm
Webhamster Henry: IOT devices are also notorious for have more brains and networking than they need, without good security. ♥ 6:20pm
StringOFperils:

↳ Teknishun @6:18

They're not called META for nothing 🤖 ♥ 6:21pm
DjLorraine: Hi   ♥ 6:21pm
Teknishun: Not only the devices and their capabilities to monitor and track, but what about the security of these things? They may or may not keep any basic level of patching, companies come and go, their products persist on a home network... 🤖 ♥ 6:21pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Teknishun @6:19

Well, again, I use my brain instead. Pretty easy to save things by the month they're taken.

Also, when you don't have a surveillance phone and so aren't subject to all the pressure to always be taking pix, you take a lot fewer.

  ♥ 6:22pm
Teknishun: I'm thinking of a bash script that can put the date of your choice on the file when copying   6:23pm
Fredericks: I have frequently said we need a Miranda-like law for tech info.   6:24pm
Fredericks: "Anything you type/search....can and will...." ♥ 6:25pm
PaulRobeson1925: “You have the right to remain silent and drunk…”   ♥ 6:25pm
Teknishun: What of the "lost in the noise" thing though? My few thousand photos a year is some percentage that is so small needs scientific notation to understand   ♥ 6:27pm
Teknishun: This reminds me of this Lex Fridman interview youtu.be... tracking removed ;-) 🤖 ♥ 6:27pm
ultradamno: Back in my day, detectives had to sit in a car together watching a brownstone all night and that's the way we liked it! 🤖 ♥ 6:29pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ ultradamno @6:27

All the farting and mustard packets were the only things keeping the police state in check! 🤖 ♥ 6:29pm
chresti: Hi Mark and Aram and real people!   6:29pm
red_door_what_for in ypsilanti: I'm looking for a dumb flip phone for real ♥ 6:29pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ chresti @6:29

Hi chresti, DjL, red_door 6:30pm
pocket vito: I was saying this 20 years ago when they started putting cameras everywhere. I said "It's maybe ok now, but what happens when a dictator takes over and wants to kill his enemies?" Everybody always laughed and called me paranoid.   6:31pm
red_door_what_for in ypsilanti: @Mark Hurst -- greetings and thank you for the show 🫡 🤖 ♥ 6:31pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ red_door_what_for in ypsilanti @6:29

It's not a flip, but version 2 has a backlit screen, which is pretty keen.

www.thelightphone.com

♥ 6:31pm
PaulRobeson1925: Secure in yer papers and possessions? ♥ 6:32pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ red_door_what_for in ypsilanti @6:29

August Lamm talked about her dumb phone in this interview - techtonic.fm...   6:32pm
Fredericks:

↳ Teknishun @6:25

Like smoking weed in a coliseum?   6:33pm
Fredericks:

↳ Teknishun @6:25

AI is a filter. 🤖 ♥ 6:33pm
chresti: Just like a dream!   6:34pm
red_door_what_for in ypsilanti: thank you guys, this helps my dumb phone quest 🙂 ♥ 6:34pm
Mark Hurst: @Handy - I can't remember, what was the somewhat recent episode with all the tech tips - which search engine to use, etc.?   6:34pm
Fredericks:

↳ Teknishun @6:27

I quit listening to Lex after hearing him interview Jared Kushner.   ♥ 6:34pm
Teknishun:

↳ Fredericks @6:32

Never happened, you can't prove a thing ♥ 6:35pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Fredericks @6:34

Awhile back I played a clip of Lex's sycophantic interview with Zuck, trying to help him boost the metaverse 🤖 ♥ 6:36pm
ultradamno: I remember their slogan: If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball 🤖 ♥ 6:36pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:34

Hmmmm ... was it 10/6?

www.wfmu.org...

  ♥ 6:36pm
Teknishun:

↳ Fredericks @6:34

That interview is an ex CIA dude, worth a listen no matter how you feel about Lex 🤖 ♥ 6:37pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:36

Or 9/8?

www.wfmu.org...

♥ 6:37pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:36

No - I'll have to do a more rigorous search when I'm not on the air :) ♥ 6:39pm
PaulRobeson1925: We tend to seek out and follow paths of least resistance.   6:39pm
Fredericks:

↳ Teknishun @6:34

Is it gone? ♥ 6:39pm
PaulRobeson1925: Sunday? Time to get drunk 🤖 ♥ 6:40pm
joe mulligan: we went to all the Foursquare parties, knew owners Dennis and Naveen, and used the app heavily to find fun new places in New York during the mid 2000s. it was the before times and there was a big new social media scene in the city. I'd never ever use anything like that again. ♥ 6:40pm
PaulRobeson1925: Thursday night? Time to get drunk ♥ 6:40pm
PaulRobeson1925: Monday night? Time to get drunk   6:40pm
hoeg: hi everyone, hope things are okay over there, looks damn scary on the internet ♥ 6:41pm
Mark Hurst: From 404 Media: A $60 Mod to Meta’s Ray-Bans Disables Its Privacy-Protecting Recording Light www.404media.co... ♥ 6:41pm
StringOFperils:

↳ hoeg @6:40

They are NOT okay. That has to be obvious. Not okay. Stay tuned for further developments. 🤖 ♥ 6:42pm
ultradamno: www.slantmagazine.com...   ♥ 6:42pm
Teknishun: We can protect ourselves all we want but lately I'm getting frustrated with the number of droves flying around the neighborhood 🤖 ♥ 6:42pm
chresti: Rump's cabinet/stepford wives prolly had some kind of face adjustments?   6:43pm
Toothgrinder Tom: But surely the kids are all right?   6:43pm
Fredericks:

↳ Teknishun @6:36

The one about the fist in the air? ♥ 6:43pm
PaulRobeson1925:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:41

Edward Snowden comes to mind.   ♥ 6:43pm
Teknishun: *drones 🤖 ♥ 6:44pm
ultradamno: surveillancefashion.com... 🤖 ♥ 6:44pm
chresti: Realistic masks are/will be a growth industry   ♥ 6:44pm
Teknishun: Clicks purchase on the Mark Hurst mask 🤖 ♥ 6:45pm
joe mulligan:

↳ chresti @6:44

count me in 🤖 ♥ 6:46pm
Handy Haversack: The Uyghurs might argue with the idea that we'll never live in a totalized surveillance state. 🤖 ♥ 6:46pm
chresti:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:46

Totally   6:48pm
Fredericks: I appreciate this hopeful note. 🤖 ♥ 6:48pm
joe mulligan:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:41

also big tech will never make stylish glasses, just a sea of surveilance wearing Same-Os. Also Oakley is a Luxottica brand. don't bike the runner/cycling "record me ride" glasses either.
road.cc... ♥ 6:48pm
StringOFperils: Seems like my personal strategy must be to bore my watchers to death.   6:49pm
Fredericks:

↳ PaulRobeson1925 @6:40

Friday, Baby. ♥ 6:49pm
PaulRobeson1925:

↳ Fredericks @6:49

Friday on my mind, baby   6:50pm
Fredericks:

↳ hoeg @6:40

It is a bit. 🤖 ♥ 6:50pm
Deano de los Muertos: Getting in my surveillance car, so I’ll say thanks now, Mark!   6:50pm
Bea: Great interview, Mark!   ♥ 6:51pm
Teknishun: Don't worry, there won't be enough chips for all this surveillance soon 🤖 ♥ 6:51pm
ultradamno:

↳ Song: "Mark's comments"

“Today we live in a society in which spurious realities are manufactured by the media, by governments, by big corporations, by religious groups, political groups...

So I ask, in my writing, What is real?

Because unceasingly we are bombarded with pseudo-realities manufactured by very sophisticated people using very sophisticated electronic mechanisms.

I do not distrust their motives; I distrust their power. They have a lot of it. And it is an astonishing power: that of creating whole universes, universes of the mind. I ought to know. I do the same thing.”

― Philip K. Dick

🤖 ♥ 6:51pm
Handy Haversack: I meant to say the new Techtonic.fm looks pretty snazzy!

techtonic.fm

  6:52pm
Fredericks:

↳ PaulRobeson1925 @6:49

Mine too, now! 🤖 ♥ 6:53pm
ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @6:51

Peek-a-boo
I can see you
And I know what you do
Because I do it to

-DEVO

🤖 ♥ 6:53pm
Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark and Aram! This was a good one.

Mark, if you're coming to Record Fair, I'll be there both days volunteering, and K8's playing Sunday at 4:30.

  6:53pm
somalisa: Congrats on the new website!! 🤖 ♥ 6:54pm
joe mulligan: I just had my car give me an alert with a beep today: "Forward Attention. Warning system limited. Full face not visible." so f'ng creepy! ♥ 6:54pm
StringOFperils: The site looks good, Mark! One repository for the collection of data that tips the scales the other way. 🤖 ♥ 6:55pm
joe mulligan:

↳ ultradamno @6:53

HA HA HA HA! HA HA HA HA!   6:55pm
Ukhan: lol 🤖 ♥ 6:56pm
Webhamster Henry: There's always a cat-n-mouse game between surveillance protection and disabling. The glasses are supposed to be able to detect when the camera is blocked, but this mod I guess fools it into thinking the LED is on when it isn't. 🤖 ♥ 6:57pm
Handy Haversack: So we should just grab sunglasses off of anyone wearing them and smash them on spec, I'm thinking. Blast off and nuke the site from orbit.   6:58pm
Ukhan: Always carry a scrambler 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:57

You can always just put a black bag over their entire head. Do it often enough and nobody will notice. 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark. I guess the situation is: if you're not concerned, you should be.   6:58pm
red_door_what_for in ypsilanti: thank you mark hurst 🫡🫡 much appreciated   ♥ 6:58pm
Teknishun: Thanks Mark 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:58

Hey, free bag! 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
joe mulligan:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:57

Now Oakley makes them, so yes grab and smash.
www.theverge.com... ♥ 6:59pm
bleubombersune: Mark and Aram Thanks all stray safe and be safe 🤖 ♥ 6:59pm
ultradamno: Does Dave have a brother named Randall? ♥ 7:00pm
Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! 🤖 ♥ 7:00pm
joe mulligan: thanks Mark! 🤖 ♥ 7:00pm
chresti: Thanks Mark! 🤖 ♥ 7:01pm
joe mulligan:

↳ bleubombersune @6:59

I like that, "stray safe"! cause if you stray too far in this regeime you will be punished