🤖♥
6:05pm
Wendy del Formaggio:
Happy anniversary, Mark! Your show is definitely worth celebrating. I've learned SO SO SO much. And I've gotten my library to order a large pile of books I've heard about on your show. Mazel tov to you!
♥
6:11pm
bleubombersune:
on my trips to China in the early '80's I always checked for monitoring devices, under lamps, under desks, behind lamp bulbs. fast forward 35yrs. my son takes my advice, takes more protection then I did
🤖♥
6:13pm
Handy Haversack:
The last line of this excellent piece on WFMU and freeform from listener Elena links to a couple of jeremiads from Irwin from almost fifty years ago on the nature of and need for freeform, and what's crucial about it in this context is that freeform has to be more than music. It's not just playing the non-hits (though give me more two Barry Manilow records played at the same time at the wrong speed, please). Speech -- and other nonmusic things -- is a crucial part. Techtonic deepens the freeform commitment of the station by a tremendous amount.
🤖♥
6:16pm
joe mulligan:
glad you're going to go beyond the usual suspects Mark, decades ago I unsubscribed from Adbusters after a few years because they had the same message.
6:18pm
Bort Simpson:
I really do get the point, but I'm still using a 10 year old android because I feel it's a waste to buy something new if the old thing still works
6:18pm
joe_rosevear:
Sorry Mark, but this is for your own good:
6:19pm
spodiodi:
impostors abound (well, the same one)
6:21pm
dk50b:
Of course, blaring ads for Spatula City!
🤖♥
6:22pm
joe mulligan:
I'm sure you covered before, but during this radio schedule season I'd like to learn more about the dangers of big tech switching conservative so that government is hands off/allows them to do whatever they want with little regulation
6:24pm
Joey C says:
Congratulations on 7 years of Techtonic. I’m sure that most, if not all, of us listeners agree that no one does what you do better and it is important that this show keeps going, on and on, like this run on sentence.
🤖♥
6:25pm
Handy Haversack:
I have a relationship with the local electronics store where I have to remind them every time, "And give me the dumbest one you have." Finally had to give up my CRT TV a few years ago, but the little flatscreen I got is definitely never going to be connected to the internet.
♥
6:25pm
Vanejsa:
What? who hasn't had the targeted ads from conversations? that was like day 1 and I have had turned of Siri and any voice activated function ever since. I can't imagine anyone with a smartphone who hasn't! I didn't realize they never confirmed it, as if it's needed, lol.
I just finished paying for my mobile tracking device, and ATT wants me to upgrade. I think not.
6:31pm
Dean:
I'm madly trying to find reports about this, acknowledging that Mark already identified no relevant reporting. But I did learn that CMG is the trading abbreviation for Chipotle Mexican Grill.
6:32pm
sensisio:
Wholefoods aka Amazon-you can now pay w your frickin hand!! How cool Amazon...creeptastic
6:33pm
Dean:
I always pay with my hand. "That'll be $42.19." I put $45 in my hand, pass it to the cashier, and accept, with my hand, $2.81 change.
6:34pm
sensisio:
@Dean very smart! Wait...yes!
6:35pm
Dean:
Of course, I also write my SSN, birth date, address, phone number, and mother's maiden name on all of my currency.
6:36pm
spodiodi:
Mark,i love what you're doing, as i've said many times over the years... from way back to when i couldn't listen to your show, as i was aware of everything you talk about, and it all makes me sick... and i agree with your mantra gett off google, etc.... but i've been troubled that i think you're giving wfmUsers a false sense of security in using the WFMU.org website... because of the google tracking that is embedded on every page...
... this stuff:
<script type="text/javascript">function highslide_attach(selector_prefix = ""){jQuery(selector_prefix + " a.highslide").attr("onclick", "return hs.expand(this)").not("[title]").attr("title", "Click to enlarge");}highslide_attach();</script><!-- async google analytics code MA 2011-02-25 -->
<script type="text/javascript">
var _gaq = _gaq || [];
_gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-446006-1']);
_gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);
_gaq.push(['_trackPageLoadTime']);
(function() {
var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;
ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
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Blacklight says that a specific Google Analytics feature is not found on WFMU. And that no ad-tech companies work is on the site, which I remember being different from the first time I checked -- I believe it flagged Google Analytics back then (and I kind of remember SM Ken being shocked by it). I wonder if Blacklight needs to be alerted to a problem?
6:40pm
spodiodi:
been biting my tongue as long as i could stand it without saying anything
♥
6:40pm
dale:
our alexa just offered up some recipe suggestions from listening to mark on the radio!!!
6:41pm
spodiodi:
the code i pasted was from the current page we're currently all sitting on
🤖♥
6:41pm
NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA:
I'm also shamelessly listening to Techtonic on a Google home mini mounted in my kitchen
6:43pm
Dean:
I think this is the comment associated with that source:
<!-- async google analytics code MA 2011-02-25 -->
What does this mean?
6:43pm
MarciB:
I always wonder how Apple is using our photos...
6:43pm
spodiodi:
i notice tons of related but creepy stuff... especially since i split up with my partner -- i see things she's searching for, even though i'm in a different location, and hadve a different ip (of course they don't need thet to know it's me), but it is creepy as hell, and not surprising to me in the least
♥
6:44pm
Ciggy:
Hi Mark
My Google Assist just popped up as you're speak6!!!
🤖♥
6:44pm
Handy Haversack:
You can listen to half of the people half of the time ...
6:45pm
MarciB:
I have to use a palm scanner when I go to my doctor's office...there's no way around it.
6:46pm
sleepy:
I was in the car …spouse had phone plugged into the car. I said I had sore neck. His phone starts telling me how to fix it…do a stretch….
🤖♥
6:46pm
chresti:
AI is listening and getting it all scrambled
Tech started with an anti government regulation philosophy, unwittingly it created a power vacuum. Corporations got pulled into vacancy in the power structure. Now they have so much money they can influence regulation.
6:46pm
spodiodi:
and have been a firm believer that i/we are all surveiled since .... forever ago
before the advent of this show and tos more.
we're fucked because most people (like my ex) don't care
There was one at K8's doctor, and we told them she wouldn't use it, and they were like, Oh, OK, you don't actually have to. You can just tell us you're here. I was all, Then why do you have it?! And K8 made me stop ...
6:47pm
MarciB:
We're holding on to our 2013 Mini for as long as we can -- it's got a CD deck, too!
🤖♥
6:48pm
Handy Haversack:
On September 9, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Mark cited Fox News ...
6:48pm
spodiodi:
i've insisted on all of our devices being completely powered off and located physically in other places for ten years or more -- especially when i was trading (and especially when i was trading crypto)
i've wanted to take it up with Mark, Kenxo, Smk and the Wordpress (marketing people) first.
♥
6:52pm
dale:
fox was fined almost 800 million for spreading trumps election disinformation. i wouldn't believe anything they say.
6:52pm
spodiodi:
their confirmations and opinions are of more interest to me first
♥
6:53pm
coelacanth∅:
do the teslas hear me as i walk passed them saying "nice douchemobile"?
6:53pm
spodiodi:
i hope it's not received poorly. i love WFMU and Mark's show ( and everyone else i've mentioned so far)
🤖♥
6:54pm
Noir Lover:
Just so happened to be wearing my Techtonic shirt
6:54pm
Dean:
I pronounce Tesla "telsa," for no reason other than not to respect those stoopid cars and their owners.
6:55pm
spodiodi:
i also hack many thought, and concerns related to this particular show, and where we we're all headed. it's fucking creepy like you wouldn't believe
6:55pm
spodiodi:
i use as much foul language as poss to confuse the fuckers
♥
6:56pm
dale:
bought a car last year at a ford dealership. i get carvana reminders in my email to get an oil change etc. such bullshit.
♥
6:57pm
dale:
...or car max. or somebody like that.
6:57pm
spodiodi:
let me, Bless Negativeland and their Efforts, especially since 2019. their albums and releases since then have been a profound gift to anyone listening
🤖♥
6:58pm
Handy Haversack:
I am extremely glad that Techtonic is on it. Many thanks, Mark! Let's get seven more years under our (your!) belt and keep on from there! Freeform forever!
🤖♥
6:58pm
Noir Lover:
For a paid item (car) to take your data too? Talk about double dipping!
6:58pm
spodiodi:
thanks Mark! you are a warrior. you are needed. you are appreciated and loved.
♥
6:58pm
Vanejsa:
I asked my partner, and he still gets targeted ads but I don't and haven't since at least since I got an iphone. I don't have Google, Instagram, Facebook or Twitter installed on my phone and I have disabled Siri. maybe that could narrow it down?
6:58pm
Tom from Stirling:
Ya gotta love Mark. Thanks, man
♥
6:59pm
bleubombersune:
Mark Big Brother always has been watching All stay safe and be well
6:59pm
spodiodi:
thank you for the important work you're doing. thanks for the effort it takes
I don't have a spyphone, got off Google, use a VPN, and use an ad blocker. I don't see ads at all! And I can't imagine I'd see particularly targeted ones?
♥
6:59pm
Mark Hurst:
Thanks, everyone! Looking forward to reading the comments. See you next week.
Listener comments!
: Mark! Techtonimabobs!
ultradamno: Early surveillance tech i.pinimg.com...
chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
Handy Haversack: Mark! Techyons!
Bas NL: There's always Hurst when you are spied upon.. Hi Mark! Hi all!
joe_rosevear: Tally ho, Techies!
spodiodi: greetings, Mark and all!
Wendy del Formaggio: Mark! I'm psyched for this show. Wait, don't I say this every week? Well, 'cos it's true.
MarciB: Looking forward to this show with everyone! Hi Mark + Tech peeps!
Will thee SG OCNY: Good evening Mark Hurst and all!!!
DjLorraine: Hey- hello
Dean: "Mark" is both a proper noun and a verb!
Greg from ZONE 5: Happy anniversary, Mark Hurst!
Will thee SG OCNY: Happy 7 years Mark!!!
Handy Haversack:
↳ Dean @6:04
And an improper noun!Jody P: happy birthday mark!
Wendy del Formaggio: Happy anniversary, Mark! Your show is definitely worth celebrating. I've learned SO SO SO much. And I've gotten my library to order a large pile of books I've heard about on your show. Mazel tov to you!
Handy Haversack: Happy seven-year kvetch, Mark!
spodiodi: happy anniversary Mark (to 7 more)
Tom from Stirling: Thank you. For your sincere effort, Mark.
Wendy del Formaggio:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:05
It's always nice to read Yiddish in two consecutive comments.:-)
coelacanth∅: Happy 331st Mark! you look great, not a day over 300!
joe_rosevear: The topic may be the same, but the technology has changed!
Handy Haversack:
↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:06
Wendeleh!Wendy del Formaggio:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:06
Handeleh!Handy Haversack: Access journalism vs. activist journalism. Which do you think is on YOUR side?
herb.nyc: We so appreciate yr work, mark, and thank you very much.
DPL: Amazing work, Mark!
bleubombersune: on my trips to China in the early '80's I always checked for monitoring devices, under lamps, under desks, behind lamp bulbs. fast forward 35yrs. my son takes my advice, takes more protection then I did
joe_rosevear:
↳ bleubombersune @6:11
Did you ever find any monitoring devices?Handy Haversack: The last line of this excellent piece on WFMU and freeform from listener Elena links to a couple of jeremiads from Irwin from almost fifty years ago on the nature of and need for freeform, and what's crucial about it in this context is that freeform has to be more than music. It's not just playing the non-hits (though give me more two Barry Manilow records played at the same time at the wrong speed, please). Speech -- and other nonmusic things -- is a crucial part. Techtonic deepens the freeform commitment of the station by a tremendous amount.
Way to go, Mark! It's an ethos!
www.radicalradio.media...
joe mulligan: glad you're going to go beyond the usual suspects Mark, decades ago I unsubscribed from Adbusters after a few years because they had the same message.
Bort Simpson: I really do get the point, but I'm still using a 10 year old android because I feel it's a waste to buy something new if the old thing still works
joe_rosevear: Sorry Mark, but this is for your own good:
dictionary.cambridge.org...
spodiodi: impostors abound (well, the same one)
dk50b: Of course, blaring ads for Spatula City!
joe mulligan: I'm sure you covered before, but during this radio schedule season I'd like to learn more about the dangers of big tech switching conservative so that government is hands off/allows them to do whatever they want with little regulation
spodiodi:
↳ joe mulligan @6:22
⭐️A2B (A➡B): Good Evening Mark & Happy 7th anniversary Techtonic!
Somewhat relevant news for this show's main topic:
Workers at Samsung's India plant are striking over demand to have salaries raised, and it's hitting the plant's production hard.
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=9c1215c32903149fJmltdHM9MTcyNTg0MDAwMCZpZ3VpZD0xZjU3M2ViOS05OWUyLTYwZWUtM2QwNy0zMTQwOTg4MDYxZmEmaW5zaWQ9NTQ5Nw&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=3&fclid=1f573eb9-99e2-60ee-3d07-3140988061fa&psq=Samsung+India+strike&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubXNuLmNvbS9lbi1pbi9uZXdzL0luZGlhL3dvcmtlcnMtYXQtc2Ftc3VuZ3MtaW5kaWEtdW5pdC1nby1vbi1pbmRlZmluaXRlLXN0cmlrZS9hci1BQTFxaG9naD9vY2lkPUJpbmdOZXdzU2VycA&ntb=1
Joey C says: Congratulations on 7 years of Techtonic. I’m sure that most, if not all, of us listeners agree that no one does what you do better and it is important that this show keeps going, on and on, like this run on sentence.
Handy Haversack: I have a relationship with the local electronics store where I have to remind them every time, "And give me the dumbest one you have." Finally had to give up my CRT TV a few years ago, but the little flatscreen I got is definitely never going to be connected to the internet.
Vanejsa: What? who hasn't had the targeted ads from conversations? that was like day 1 and I have had turned of Siri and any voice activated function ever since. I can't imagine anyone with a smartphone who hasn't! I didn't realize they never confirmed it, as if it's needed, lol.
Peter from Saranac Lake NY:
↳ Bort Simpson @6:18
I just finished paying for my mobile tracking device, and ATT wants me to upgrade. I think not.Dean: I'm madly trying to find reports about this, acknowledging that Mark already identified no relevant reporting. But I did learn that CMG is the trading abbreviation for Chipotle Mexican Grill.
sensisio: Wholefoods aka Amazon-you can now pay w your frickin hand!! How cool Amazon...creeptastic
mariano: Mind syph?
Dean: I always pay with my hand. "That'll be $42.19." I put $45 in my hand, pass it to the cashier, and accept, with my hand, $2.81 change.
sensisio: @Dean very smart! Wait...yes!
Dean: Of course, I also write my SSN, birth date, address, phone number, and mother's maiden name on all of my currency.
spodiodi: Mark,i love what you're doing, as i've said many times over the years... from way back to when i couldn't listen to your show, as i was aware of everything you talk about, and it all makes me sick... and i agree with your mantra gett off google, etc.... but i've been troubled that i think you're giving wfmUsers a false sense of security in using the WFMU.org website... because of the google tracking that is embedded on every page...
... this stuff:
<script type="text/javascript">function highslide_attach(selector_prefix = ""){jQuery(selector_prefix + " a.highslide").attr("onclick", "return hs.expand(this)").not("[title]").attr("title", "Click to enlarge");}highslide_attach();</script><!-- async google analytics code MA 2011-02-25 -->
<script type="text/javascript">
var _gaq = _gaq || [];
_gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-446006-1']);
_gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);
_gaq.push(['_trackPageLoadTime']);
(function() {
var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;
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NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA: Cox is the only available Internet provider in my neighborhood aha 😅
Fredericks: Don't I remember people laughing at members of Congress for asking tech exes about this very topic?
spodiodi: feels a lot like do as we say, not as we do
Dean: Huh, spodiodi. DuckDuckGo tells me that there are "No Tracking Requests Found" on this page. Is DDG missing something obvious?
spodiodi: vie source, Dean
Handy Haversack:
↳ spodiodi @6:36
Yo, spodi!Blacklight says that a specific Google Analytics feature is not found on WFMU. And that no ad-tech companies work is on the site, which I remember being different from the first time I checked -- I believe it flagged Google Analytics back then (and I kind of remember SM Ken being shocked by it). I wonder if Blacklight needs to be alerted to a problem?
themarkup.org...
spodiodi: been biting my tongue as long as i could stand it without saying anything
dale: our alexa just offered up some recipe suggestions from listening to mark on the radio!!!
spodiodi: the code i pasted was from the current page we're currently all sitting on
NotARealDoctor in Norfolk VA: I'm also shamelessly listening to Techtonic on a Google home mini mounted in my kitchen
Dean: I think this is the comment associated with that source:
<!-- async google analytics code MA 2011-02-25 -->
What does this mean?
MarciB: I always wonder how Apple is using our photos...
spodiodi: i notice tons of related but creepy stuff... especially since i split up with my partner -- i see things she's searching for, even though i'm in a different location, and hadve a different ip (of course they don't need thet to know it's me), but it is creepy as hell, and not surprising to me in the least
Ciggy: Hi Mark
My Google Assist just popped up as you're speak6!!!
Handy Haversack: You can listen to half of the people half of the time ...
Ciggy: *Assistant
MarciB: I have to use a palm scanner when I go to my doctor's office...there's no way around it.
sleepy: I was in the car …spouse had phone plugged into the car. I said I had sore neck. His phone starts telling me how to fix it…do a stretch….
chresti: AI is listening and getting it all scrambled
Fredericks:
↳ joe mulligan @6:22
Tech started with an anti government regulation philosophy, unwittingly it created a power vacuum. Corporations got pulled into vacancy in the power structure. Now they have so much money they can influence regulation.spodiodi: and have been a firm believer that i/we are all surveiled since .... forever ago
before the advent of this show and tos more.
we're fucked because most people (like my ex) don't care
Handy Haversack:
↳ MarciB @6:45
There was one at K8's doctor, and we told them she wouldn't use it, and they were like, Oh, OK, you don't actually have to. You can just tell us you're here. I was all, Then why do you have it?! And K8 made me stop ...MarciB: We're holding on to our 2013 Mini for as long as we can -- it's got a CD deck, too!
Handy Haversack: On September 9, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Mark cited Fox News ...
spodiodi: i've insisted on all of our devices being completely powered off and located physically in other places for ten years or more -- especially when i was trading (and especially when i was trading crypto)
MarciB:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:47
Oh maybe if I'm more assertive I can get out of using that too then. But it seems like they've already got the info...spodiodi:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:40
yo Handy!i'll refer you to the code i've pasted. it tells a different story
chresti: I'm driving a 1997 Buick that belonged to Franco's mom
spodiodi: drives me crazy -- as my awareness and concern and talking about it was met by my partner with ~"you're paranoid" sentiment
Handy Haversack:
↳ spodiodi @6:49
I am afraid I can't read it. Seems worth telling Blacklight about? They do specifically ask for that.spodiodi:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:50
i've wanted to take it up with Mark, Kenxo, Smk and the Wordpress (marketing people) first.dale: fox was fined almost 800 million for spreading trumps election disinformation. i wouldn't believe anything they say.
spodiodi: their confirmations and opinions are of more interest to me first
coelacanth∅: do the teslas hear me as i walk passed them saying "nice douchemobile"?
spodiodi: i hope it's not received poorly. i love WFMU and Mark's show ( and everyone else i've mentioned so far)
Noir Lover: Just so happened to be wearing my Techtonic shirt
Dean: I pronounce Tesla "telsa," for no reason other than not to respect those stoopid cars and their owners.
spodiodi: i also hack many thought, and concerns related to this particular show, and where we we're all headed. it's fucking creepy like you wouldn't believe
Handy Haversack:
↳ spodiodi @6:52
Ah, I see! wfmu.org doesn't have it, but the show page does:themarkup.org...
spodiodi: i use as much foul language as poss to confuse the fuckers
dale: bought a car last year at a ford dealership. i get carvana reminders in my email to get an oil change etc. such bullshit.
dale: ...or car max. or somebody like that.
spodiodi: let me, Bless Negativeland and their Efforts, especially since 2019. their albums and releases since then have been a profound gift to anyone listening
spodiodi:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:55
cool. glad to hear another confirmation.coelacanth∅: Thanks Mark!
Handy Haversack: I am extremely glad that Techtonic is on it. Many thanks, Mark! Let's get seven more years under our (your!) belt and keep on from there! Freeform forever!
Noir Lover: For a paid item (car) to take your data too? Talk about double dipping!
spodiodi: thanks Mark! you are a warrior. you are needed. you are appreciated and loved.
Vanejsa: I asked my partner, and he still gets targeted ads but I don't and haven't since at least since I got an iphone. I don't have Google, Instagram, Facebook or Twitter installed on my phone and I have disabled Siri. maybe that could narrow it down?
Tom from Stirling: Ya gotta love Mark. Thanks, man
bleubombersune: Mark Big Brother always has been watching All stay safe and be well
spodiodi: thank you for the important work you're doing. thanks for the effort it takes
Handy Haversack:
↳ Vanejsa @6:58
I don't have a spyphone, got off Google, use a VPN, and use an ad blocker. I don't see ads at all! And I can't imagine I'd see particularly targeted ones?Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! Looking forward to reading the comments. See you next week.
Handy Haversack:
↳ Song: "2 4 5 7 9 11" by "John Fekner City Squad"
NYC television channels.A2B (A➡B): Thanks, Mark!
Here's tp 7 more years! 🍺🍸
Keep fighting the good fight!
Will thee SG OCNY: Thank you Mark Hurst, excellent show and service!!!