Listener comments!

🤖 ♥ 5:56pm
: Mark! Tychtopians!   6:02pm
chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians! 🤖 ♥ 6:02pm
ultradamno: I saw the suspicious friendliness article the other day, having them target the prices I pay is bad enough...but getting catty about my demeanor too....   6:03pm
?: I just like the Game Boy Tune 🤖 ♥ 6:04pm
DjLorraine: Hello ♥ 6:05pm
cosmic matrix: why, hello! ♥ 6:05pm
tom tom the pipers son: musk bezos zuckerberg similar to edison...more ruthless marketers than inventors 🤖 ♥ 6:07pm
Bas NL: Hi Mark! Hi all! 6:08pm
joe_rosevear: Howdy, Techie Types and Mark!   6:09pm
Sam: Um… the chatbot doesn’t have expectations. Like a calculator doesn’t have expectations. ♥ 6:10pm
cosmic matrix: why not just try to be polite to chatbots for the sake of practice?   6:10pm
chresti: I say “shut up you bag of algorithms !” 🤖 ♥ 6:11pm
ultradamno: I doubt it's helpful to be harsh with a chatbot, but comparing it how you treat a human in a service position is offensive ♥ 6:11pm
tom tom the pipers son: when using a chatbot i tend it be "nice" in that i want to be clear and logical to get the right information from them...the niceness is just analogous to not roughly using a machine ♥ 6:12pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:11

there is no ethics just function   6:12pm
Sam: No you have to be extra rude to chatbots so they know their place and don’t try to rise up. Just like you have to assert dominance with a dog. Also to show that society doesn’t need these things and we should resist them. 6:13pm
joe_rosevear: I suppose there is no moral imperative to be nice to a chat bot. That's a weird question, because we don't yet know the person status of chatbots.

But even if they have no person status (I'm fine with that), there is a really good reason to be nice to chatbots, and it's the same reason we are nice to other people. You get better results if you are nice!

🤖 ♥ 6:14pm
ultradamno: It might be helpful to stop trying to make them try to fool people into thinking they are talking to a person. That's kind of infuriating 🤖 ♥ 6:14pm
Ken From Hyde Park: When the computer robots go "Kill all humans," I hope I'm on the "but not this one" side. ♥ 6:16pm
tom tom the pipers son: chatbots don't have a consciousness "to rise up"they are pawns that are being moved by greedy people ♥ 6:16pm
TheDerek: My surfer/Southern Drawl short circuits AI.   6:16pm
Sam: It will be like Night Rider or Herbie the love bug!   6:17pm
traven: Wasn't there a tv show some years ago where a guy drove a talking car?   6:17pm
Sam:

↳ traven @6:17

Night rider 🤖 ♥ 6:17pm
ultradamno: I don't think Herbie had a computer...I think he was just haunted ♥ 6:17pm
cosmic matrix:

↳ Sam @6:16

oooh the AI could have “skins” plug-ins ♥ 6:17pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:14

yes...or you can get a refrigerator box, paint it silver and get inside...robot disguise works every time   6:17pm
?: My Mother the Car   6:18pm
Tootie: I worked for a short while for an AI company rating the AI responses. Part of the job was reading conversations people were having with the Meta bot. I quickly quit because of the disturbing nature of these relationships and the way people were talking to the bot. They were either befriending it or berating it. From what I saw, it seemed to be best practice to be friendly to the bot not to benefit the corporations that the bot worked for but in order to get a more accurate and thorough answer. Also keeping in mind not to humanize it. The amount of people having relationships (good and bad) with these bots is deeply disturbing.   6:18pm
Sam: I can’t wait for the talking toilets   6:18pm
Andres: Parents who hate talking to their own kids are gonna love this.   6:19pm
traven:

↳ Sam @6:17

Thanks.   6:19pm
Sam: Just put a VR headset on the kid and give him a Dramamine 🤖 ♥ 6:19pm
ultradamno: There was an episode of Futurama where Bender got bitten by a werecar thenewswheel.com...

Which brings up Christine, Killdozer and Maximum Overdrive

♥ 6:20pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Tootie @6:18

i agree... was saying same...just like using a machine correctly 6:20pm
joe_rosevear: You make fun of kids talking to chatbots, Mark, but think of it. Knowing how to interact with a tool (a chatbot) may be a valuable skill. 🤖 ♥ 6:20pm
ultradamno:

↳ Sam @6:18

They must already have those in Japan 🤖 ♥ 6:20pm
ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @6:20

Yep, for awhile now www.cnet.com... 🤖 ♥ 6:21pm
Spikey BXL: "Hey Google, snitch on me to my car insurer and the police!" ♥ 6:21pm
TheDerek: 80's TV show, AUTOMAN! Perfect sci-fi realization of this dynamic!! 🤖 ♥ 6:23pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Yesterday: tinfoil hats
Tomorrow: tinfoil car covers   6:25pm
Sam: Are the cars really loss leaders, because car prices have gotten insanely high.   6:26pm
Sam:

↳ Sam @6:25

Mostly because of all the computer crap I assume. 🤖 ♥ 6:27pm
chris in the redwoods: hi, Mark and everyone.

i've thought of cars as big tech since VW programmed them to cheat on emissions tests. i could be in the minority, though.

🤖 ♥ 6:28pm
ultradamno: FWIW, like Wendy's, I believe Kroger has denied they intend to have surge prices   6:29pm
Sam: Wouldn’t that be discrimination? 🤖 ♥ 6:29pm
ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @6:28

www.inc.com... ♥ 6:29pm
PaulRobeson1924: Hi Hi Hl 6:30pm
joe_rosevear: Please, understand. Not all of the surveillance data is for bad purposes. Just like children learn from other people, especially adults, how to think, speak, and behave, chatbots and ai based cars do the same thing. They learn much like children learn. And that is so important to producing a successful product that they are willing to pay for it.

Of course, there are certainly opportunities for abuse of that data as well.

  6:31pm
estebangrande: Budget raised my rental rate when I tried to check out 🤖 ♥ 6:31pm
ultradamno: Though Kroger has acknowledged price gouging, which is no better or very different www.newsweek.com... 🤖 ♥ 6:31pm
Webhamster Henry: Be nice to your car.. or else! #Christine ♥ 6:32pm
PaulRobeson1924: Smart Toilet. “This Wallmart smart facility has analyzed yer movements in real time and can make the following recommendations: oats. Carrots. More Flax Seed oil. You have a vitamin D & vitamin B6 and Magnesium deficiency. You have spent 40% longer inside this Wallmart smart facility than 100% of people in your age group.” ♥ 6:33pm
tom tom the pipers son: post pandemic price gouging probably set the stage for 'surveillance' pricing ♥ 6:33pm
Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Good evening Mark and fellow techies. 🤖 ♥ 6:34pm
DjLorraine: Just last week my uk/usa friends in a telegram chat said they were speaking with a chatgpt to correct the treatment of an ignored chronic illness to the recent data. It apologized. They stayed with it for a long time and they felt they fixed it for everyone in the future. I didnt have the energy to tell them that they did not override the previous programming. 🤖 ♥ 6:34pm
tim: Hey Mark and everyone! ♥ 6:34pm
Peter from Saranac Lake NY:

↳ joe_rosevear @6:13

"Corporations are people, my friends. So are chatbots!"   6:34pm
Billybob: This conversation is making me think of Children of the Damned (which was just on TCM a few weeks ago). Be nice, and don't you dare even think bad thoughts. They know what you're thinking, and will exact vengeance upon you simply for thinking the wrong thoughts. 🤖 ♥ 6:35pm
tim: "Rob the customer before they rob us." ♥ 6:35pm
The Butterman:

↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:32

That’s just your conspiracy to sell more flax seed and oatmeal. We know you’re working for big oatmeal! 🤖 ♥ 6:35pm
Bas NL: Are you talking to me? 🤖 ♥ 6:36pm
Deano de los Muertos: Hey Mark..whoops, lost track of time..I’ll archive this one ♥ 6:36pm
PaulRobeson1924: No! No! NO! NO! NO! Too friendly NO!
NO!
No!

dailyjfk.com...
too friendly!!!!!

♥ 6:36pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @6:34

that follows...the fascist logic   6:36pm
Sam: Nah, you will never stop people from chit chatting with cashiers. ♥ 6:36pm
VantuckyEd: when does the SCOTUS decide that Chatbots get the right to vote? 2030 election? ♥ 6:37pm
PaulRobeson1924:

↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:32

We know what all this AI tech is after! Our precious bodily fluids! ♥ 6:39pm
cosmic matrix: lol 1995 guestbook vibes! 🤖 ♥ 6:39pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ cosmic matrix @6:39

yeah a kind of shout out to my 90s style Website designs... 🤖 ♥ 6:39pm
tim: Keeping track of an employee's every moment on the clock is bad enough. Monitoring "good customer service" as a negative is off the rails. 🤖 ♥ 6:40pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:39

freeform.wfmu.org   6:40pm
traven:

↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:37

As a precaution, always keep a .30 machine gun in your golf bag. ♥ 6:40pm
cosmic matrix:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:39

love it. simple is best.   6:41pm
Billybob: One thing I don't like about AI is that when you type it, AI looks just like Al (as in Einstein or Bundy). ♥ 6:42pm
cosmic matrix:

↳ Billybob @6:41

or A1 steaksauce ♥ 6:42pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ tim @6:39

corporations often treat customers as employees, i never answer email askinmg about service ...why should i be doing sales research for these companies ♥ 6:42pm
PaulRobeson1924:

↳ The Butterman @6:35

Guilty! If all the world could enjoy a big bowl once a day what a world it would be! Light feeling and easy going! You understand   6:42pm
?: I might be more afraid if google gets the answer right   6:42pm
Fredericks: I appreciate Mark not repeating the misinformation. ♥ 6:42pm
HyperDose: Hard hitting journalism right here! 🤖 ♥ 6:43pm
Webhamster Henry: Ask not what your chatbot can do for you, but what you can do for your chatbot! -- AI JFK 🤖 ♥ 6:43pm
ultradamno: Slate is saying 'chat' is now teen's favorite word slate.com... 🤖 ♥ 6:44pm
Webhamster Henry: Whisper is pretty good, but I always edit its results.   6:44pm
chresti: One problem is the chat bots often don’t understand what you’re asking 🤖 ♥ 6:44pm
ultradamno: I'm not sure I believe it, it feels like a prank, like made up slacker slang back in the day 🤖 ♥ 6:44pm
tim: I've never knowingly used a chatbot or AI. I never willingly use it either.   6:45pm
Billybob:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:39

Have you looked at the HeavensGate website? Totally 90s...and oddly, still active. 6:45pm
joe_rosevear:

↳ Billybob @6:41

Or like what you would scream as you fall off the cliff: Aiiii!   6:45pm
?: are there no chattops? ♥ 6:45pm
coelacanth: - or referring to your gps or answer device (alexa, etc) as "she", or "he". GROW UP PEOPLE! 🤖 ♥ 6:45pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ tim @6:44

They are sitting in the little help chats for every online servie that constantly breaks these days. ♥ 6:45pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ chresti @6:44

yes...when you ask for live help sometimes they don'y comply 🤖 ♥ 6:47pm
ultradamno: Is there even one message along the lines of "you ever wonder if an iceball from the oort cloud may not be coming for us?" ♥ 6:48pm
PaulRobeson1924: Medical secretaries yes. Typists- good union jobs in Hospitals ♥ 6:48pm
PaulRobeson1924: DOWN WITH THE SMART MAN. 6:49pm
GERZ: I bought a ticket through TicketMaster to see David Gilmour at the Intuit Dome in Los Angeles. I was instructed that I HAD to Download an app created by the venue to enter. When I went to download the app my iPhone 7 could not run the latest IOS so it would not let me download the app. The app wants you to upload a photo, provide a credit card and license plate number along with your address and phone number. YEESH! They had HUNDREDS of cameras all over the venue doing facial tracking. They said it was for your convenience. Beyond Big Brother. 70% of the people who have given this data include a photo.   6:49pm
Sam: The hospitals need AI to save money so they have enough for their slick ad campaigns. 6:50pm
joe_rosevear: Heaven help us! Computers that have human-like skills also have human-like faults and make human-like mistakes.

But I must say, Mark, that those transcription errors were outrageous! If those were made by a human, the human would surely be fired.

♥ 6:50pm
The Butterman: My NYC hot dog vendor (Saturday when we attended record fair) had no idea what I was saying when I asked him for 3 hotdogs. I mean, pretty much all you do is sell hotdogs and you don’t understand “three hotdogs, please”. Maybe he was a.i. ♥ 6:51pm
tom tom the pipers son: is a.i. the cultural apotheosis of cartesianism ♥ 6:51pm
PaulRobeson1924: Mark. Magic? ♥ 6:52pm
full_english_breakfast:

↳ The Butterman @6:50

did you finally try saying "hot dog" three times? ♥ 6:52pm
The Butterman:

↳ full_english_breakfast @6:52

I’m sure I did. ♥ 6:52pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ The Butterman @6:50

maybe he was puzzled you wanted more than one....; ) ♥ 6:53pm
coelacanth∅:

↳ GERZ @6:49

what that says to me is:
boycott ticketmaster;
boycott intuit dome;
boycott any David Gilmour show that requires a 3rd-party ticket vendor. 🤖 ♥ 6:53pm
ultradamno: Hot Dog! That Made Him Mad! 🤖 ♥ 6:54pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:53

Adding: also tell all your friends to do likewise. ♥ 6:54pm
The Butterman:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:52

3 hotdogs for two people is hardly outlandish. Anyway, we digress!   6:54pm
?: 3 frankfurters 🤖 ♥ 6:55pm
tim: Thanks, Mark! ♥ 6:55pm
PaulRobeson1924: The Television made it’s way inside our homes. Is there a way to stop the Television now??

This new Technology is a-lot like the growth of the T.V.

In 1952 only legislation would have prevented the growth of Television into every home

6:55pm
Stashu: 🌼   6:55pm
Sam: Maybe Google will buy up all the reservoirs and aqueducts and charge us surge pricing for however much water they feel like giving us. ♥ 6:56pm
tom tom the pipers son: interesting use of "hallucinatory"in relation to a.i.   6:56pm
traven:

↳ Sam @6:55

Please don't give 'em any ideas! 6:57pm
GERZ:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:53

I will never go to Intuit Dome again. Unfortunately Ticketmaster has tentacles far and wide if you want to attend a large music event. ♥ 6:57pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ The Butterman @6:54

was joking👍🏻 ♥ 6:57pm
cosmic matrix: thank u mark! 🤖 ♥ 6:57pm
joe mulligan: KOWS, where's that? glad you're on syndication ♥ 6:57pm
coelacanth∅: Thanks Mark! 🤖 ♥ 6:57pm
Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Hear you in two weeks, ♥ 6:58pm
tom tom the pipers son: thanks mark   6:58pm
chresti: Thanks Mark! 6:58pm
joe_rosevear: Hey, thanks Mark, and all! 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
ultradamno: kows92-5.org 6:58pm
GERZ: Thanks for your time and research. 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark. Give those chatbots what-for! ♥ 6:58pm
bleubombersune: Mark thank you 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
Webhamster Henry: Thanks Mark! it's good to have these non-interview catch up on the news shows! ♥ 6:58pm
PaulRobeson1924:

↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:55

Its

Ya ya ya

♥ 6:58pm
dale: sorry, just bough an amazon based tv. cool thing is you can speak into the remote and say 'alexa, play wfmu.' 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
joe mulligan:

↳ ultradamno @6:58

thanks! great show Mark   6:59pm
chresti: Five minutes to self​-​destruct by CEL💥🥊💥🥊💥 ♥ 6:59pm
PaulRobeson1924: thanks! great show Mark! ♥ 6:59pm
dale: ....i didn't know that's what an insignia was getting me into....i prefer dumb tv's that just hook up to an antenna. ♥ 6:59pm
Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! See you in two weeks. ♥ 7:00pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ joe mulligan @6:57

Occidental, CA (Sonoma) 🤖 ♥ 7:00pm
chris in the redwoods: thanks, Mark! 🤖 ♥ 7:00pm
joe mulligan:

↳ Mark Hurst @7:00

love it, pretty close to me   1:18am
SegFish:

↳ Sam @6:17

Knight Rider