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6:06pm
chris in the redwoods:
hi, Mark and everyone.
yay! have not finished the book, yet, tho, so no spoilers! hehehe
6:07pm
MarciB:
Hi Mark and all! I requested this book from my local library months ago - as soon as I heard about it ... still not available, so a lot of folks must be reading it.
6:11pm
Marie in Chicago:
Hi Mark, hi All Mark Z is despicable. I think because he seems kind of odd/disabled maybe people give him him a break. But FB should pay the media sources they use--not sure if they do in the US
6:21pm
Marie in Chicago:
his brain is not like a lot of other people's. I bet he would test high on psychopathy
6:28pm
morphe':
One bit:"Her allegations include that executives had worked "hand in glove" with the Chinese government on potential ways of allowing Beijing to censor and control content in exchange for access to the lucrative market."
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6:30pm
ultradamno:
Is that Trump influence? It's hard to think of a public figure less suited to thriving on big crowd energy (never mind successfully wowing them) than Zuck
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6:31pm
ultradamno:
(though DJT himself is a big stay up late/sleep in guy)
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6:31pm
joe mulligan:
oh shit we think Trump is bad? I hope to God no one would vote for Zuck in primaries
will still never understand the billionaire impulse to stir pots they have no business cooking with. if i was given a few million dollars i'd buy records and garden and you wouldnt hear from me ever again
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6:33pm
PaulRobeson1925:
The world over are soon to be Americans. Car, home, work, home, maybe walk the dog, corn dog, hamburger, work, home, July 4th, the end
so the money is more than enough for a person, but it seems they need more money to have power for things like buying a presidency to extend their agenda like Musk and the oligarchs
6:43pm
MarciB:
I belong to an industry group that has a "private" page. I've been advocating for our industry to move away from FB- but so many colleagues disagree. They say it's easier to be on FB for business - - " I get so much business from FB ads!" and hop over to see how friends + family are doing. Ugh 😩.
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6:48pm
joe mulligan:
I do love how Gates announced how he's giving away his fortune, hopefully trying to influence the new billionaires. but also don't like that it's at the end of his life. and also why do the billionaires get to decide where all this philanthropic money goes to?
What is a civil society for? If not to protect the vulnerable from harm
We aught not to let people starve to death or get too old to work and die on the street.
Don’t we have laws against advertising to children beacuse captialism is premised on the consumer knowing what is good and what is not good.
We have laws that protect children from harm because they have not yet learned what is good and what is not good and so cannot make an informed choice.
Facebook targeted the emotional state of 12-17 year old girls. To sell to them?
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6:52pm
Fuzzy:
It's a big club: and you ain't in it!
The government should take his undeserved money through extreme taxes on billionaires before he has a chance to decide what to spend it on.
6:53pm
MarciB:
Lol Zuckerberg going to prison. Just like the rest of the regime. Not gonna happen - he's part of the Rich White Boys club.
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6:54pm
tim:
Thanks, Mark! I appreciate your thoughts on the book. I'm definitely going to read it.
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6:54pm
ultradamno:
I imagine it's name would change to the Mark Zuckerberg House of Corrections before he ever got there
6:54pm
Fredericks:
The fines on Facebook could probably balance the budget, if paid.
6:54pm
MarciB:
Ok, checked my library and I'm 42nd in line for the 15 copies. May need to just buy it - I'm impatient.
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6:55pm
ultradamno:
Suddenly Settlers of Catan penitentiary tournements
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6:56pm
chris in the redwoods:
fb knew their content moderation wouldn't work in the Burmese language. they were warned of the violence arising. and they didn't care.
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6:56pm
Handy Haversack:
Catan is definitely evidence of potential scoundrel-hood. Don't let friends.
Thanks, Mark! All truths here.
6:57pm
morphe':
Thanks Mark and all ...
I'll be dead but I do think there will be progress in some future future and a/some future generation[s] will do well ..
that is why we must persevere now ...
6:57pm
estmcmxci:
worst show ever. completely one sided arguments based on hate and jealousy. please cancel this.
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6:58pm
Bas NL:
Thanks Mark! This book gives stuff to think about!
Listener comments!
: Mark! Techtindless!
ultradamno: Just got my careless package of swag in the mail today...
David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids here gathered.
Ike: DoorDash just gave $1 million to Cuomo's super PAC for mayor. That counts as tech news, right?
Handy Haversack: Mark! Techyons!
Gotta get dinner going, but listening hard.
Happy SWAGVENT, ultradamno!
Will thee SG OCNY: good Afternoon Mark Hurst and all!!!
Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Mark and the careless clueless class!
PaulRobeson1925: Great day for Radio
Hugo (NL): ...reading the latest tech news about the lobby for new laws for no guardrrails in ai development...risky and scary stuff.
But...hi all! Glad to arrive onze again in the safe haven that is wfmu
mackeral: hey folks!
ultradamno:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:01
Thank you, HH, to you and yours as well!chris in the redwoods: hi, Mark and everyone.
yay! have not finished the book, yet, tho, so no spoilers! hehehe
MarciB: Hi Mark and all! I requested this book from my local library months ago - as soon as I heard about it ... still not available, so a lot of folks must be reading it.
Webhamster Henry: Hi Friends! Follow me on Facebook!😀📖
ultradamno: Talking about freedom incessantly is a tic of people who take freedoms away.
Deano de los Muertos: Hey Mark and all
Marie in Chicago: Hi Mark, hi All Mark Z is despicable. I think because he seems kind of odd/disabled maybe people give him him a break. But FB should pay the media sources they use--not sure if they do in the US
melinda: hello Mark and all
Marie in Chicago: I love that the book is a #1 NYT bookseller
yippie: i believe in free speech, except for false advertising
chresti: Hi Mark and techtonians!
PaulRobeson1925: TALK TALK! TALK TALK!
Marie in Chicago:
↳ Marie in Chicago @6:13
best sellertonyb: Via my local Library: 33 copies available in the NJ book sharing system; 73 current holds… 🤞
joe mulligan: of course it was settlers of catan
PaulRobeson1925: No Fun
chris in the redwoods: honestly, fb's attack on Wynn-Williams made me interested in reading the book.
traven: I would think that guys like Zuckerberg would love playing Monopoly (using actual money, of course).
Fredericks: There is power, there is power in the hands of the working folks...
yippie: idealism is one of the worst isms
ultradamno: Siri settlement www.northjersey.com...
Marie in Chicago: his brain is not like a lot of other people's. I bet he would test high on psychopathy
morphe': One bit:"Her allegations include that executives had worked "hand in glove" with the Chinese government on potential ways of allowing Beijing to censor and control content in exchange for access to the lucrative market."
www.bbc.com...
ultradamno: Is that Trump influence? It's hard to think of a public figure less suited to thriving on big crowd energy (never mind successfully wowing them) than Zuck
ultradamno: (though DJT himself is a big stay up late/sleep in guy)
joe mulligan: oh shit we think Trump is bad? I hope to God no one would vote for Zuck in primaries
traven:
↳ ultradamno @6:31
That's interesting. So was Hitler.mndave:
↳ ultradamno @6:31
will still never understand the billionaire impulse to stir pots they have no business cooking with. if i was given a few million dollars i'd buy records and garden and you wouldnt hear from me ever againPaulRobeson1925: The world over are soon to be Americans. Car, home, work, home, maybe walk the dog, corn dog, hamburger, work, home, July 4th, the end
morphe':
↳ ultradamno @6:31
All depends on his Mikey D's/KFC defecation and/or wanking schedules ..mndave:
↳ Marie in Chicago @6:21
Sensing a 0.0001% personality trait theme here!Webhamster Henry:
↳ mndave @6:33
Focusing on the money masks the real problem: that think they never have enough.ultradamno:
↳ morphe' @6:34
Might have to rethink what he's sitting on here www.reddit.com...mndave:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:35
Yep - it's the illusion of importance and intelligence that comes with insane wealth that our culture has allowed them to cultivateMarie in Chicago: "Lean in"==shut down--Cheryl Sandberg--what a lamo in terms of feminism
ultradamno: Oh...I thought it was going somewhere juicier than that...Clarence Carter style
morphe': For Later = After
It's Complicated w/DM
"FULL INTERVIEW: Ex-Facebook executive's first-hand dealings with Mark Zuckerberg | 60 Minutes"
www.youtube.com...
MarciB:
↳ Marie in Chicago @6:35
I'm so glad I saw thru her bs early on.ultradamno: ...or Katie Hill
Ken From Hyde Park: I requested the book from my library. Looking forward to receiving it.
PaulRobeson1925: We aught to have laws that protect the vulnerable…
joe mulligan:
↳ mndave @6:35
so the money is more than enough for a person, but it seems they need more money to have power for things like buying a presidency to extend their agenda like Musk and the oligarchsMarciB: I belong to an industry group that has a "private" page. I've been advocating for our industry to move away from FB- but so many colleagues disagree. They say it's easier to be on FB for business - - " I get so much business from FB ads!" and hop over to see how friends + family are doing. Ugh 😩.
morphe':
↳ PaulRobeson1925 @6:42
"EU investigates Facebook owner Meta over child safety and mental health concerns"www.theguardian.com...
Marie in Chicago: It's really sick. We need FB, IG, to be regulated. I believe it is more heavily regulated in the EU...
ultradamno: Taylor Tomlinson had some good lines about this deleting pics predation on After Midnight this past week...
Ken From Hyde Park:
↳ tonyb @6:15
37 copies, 35 holds for me.ultradamno:
↳ ultradamno @6:44
Then you figure how facebook started in the first place, it tracksSam: I’m sure executives at Twix know their product is harming teenagers too. And Sprite. And Cheetos. It’s the way all big businesses work.
Marie in Chicago:
↳ Sam @6:46
True--but they are not global disseminators of informationtonyb: I’m on line for the Spotify book too! I’m patient…
ultradamno: i.pinimg.com...
joe mulligan: I do love how Gates announced how he's giving away his fortune, hopefully trying to influence the new billionaires. but also don't like that it's at the end of his life. and also why do the billionaires get to decide where all this philanthropic money goes to?
chris in the redwoods:
↳ Marie in Chicago @6:47
*mis-informationjust correcting your typo ;)
Webhamster Henry:
↳ joe mulligan @6:43
You actually don't need that much money to buy public servants. There's a great ROI. You just need to know how to spend it.chris in the redwoods:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:48
and they (politicians) usually tell you how to do that on their websitestraven:
↳ joe mulligan @6:48
They could do so much good for many without depriving themselves in the least.Handy Haversack: I wish we could hear Sarah Wynn-Williams ... but Mark is always my favorite guest.
Deano de los Muertos: Gonna start cooking and busy my hands. Thanks for another great show,Mark
Mxter Baba: I think I’m going to “launch” any minute, myself.
PaulRobeson1925:
↳ morphe' @6:43
What is a civil society for? If not to protect the vulnerable from harmWe aught not to let people starve to death or get too old to work and die on the street.
Don’t we have laws against advertising to children beacuse captialism is premised on the consumer knowing what is good and what is not good.
We have laws that protect children from harm because they have not yet learned what is good and what is not good and so cannot make an informed choice.
Facebook targeted the emotional state of 12-17 year old girls. To sell to them?
Fuzzy: It's a big club: and you ain't in it!
Sam:
↳ joe mulligan @6:48
The government should take his undeserved money through extreme taxes on billionaires before he has a chance to decide what to spend it on.MarciB: Lol Zuckerberg going to prison. Just like the rest of the regime. Not gonna happen - he's part of the Rich White Boys club.
tim: Thanks, Mark! I appreciate your thoughts on the book. I'm definitely going to read it.
ultradamno: I imagine it's name would change to the Mark Zuckerberg House of Corrections before he ever got there
Fredericks: The fines on Facebook could probably balance the budget, if paid.
MarciB: Ok, checked my library and I'm 42nd in line for the 15 copies. May need to just buy it - I'm impatient.
ultradamno: Suddenly Settlers of Catan penitentiary tournements
chris in the redwoods: fb knew their content moderation wouldn't work in the Burmese language. they were warned of the violence arising. and they didn't care.
Handy Haversack: Catan is definitely evidence of potential scoundrel-hood. Don't let friends.
Thanks, Mark! All truths here.
morphe': Thanks Mark and all ...
I'll be dead but I do think there will be progress in some future future and a/some future generation[s] will do well ..
that is why we must persevere now ...
estmcmxci: worst show ever. completely one sided arguments based on hate and jealousy. please cancel this.
Bas NL: Thanks Mark! This book gives stuff to think about!
chris in the redwoods: thanks, Mark!
Mxter Baba: Thank you, Mark and WFMU folx. Thanks, Sarah Wynn-Williams! Freeform for the deform!
ultradamno:
↳ ultradamno @6:54
Unless it got named X-formatory...in which case he would be fuckedKen From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark. Continue the "resist" strategy.
Marc15: You can’t blame Facebook for suicides. The person who committed suicide is responsible for their own actions
Handy Haversack:
↳ estmcmxci @6:57
In other words ... absolutely accurate.Patster: Thank you Mark! Awesome show!
morphe':
↳ estmcmxci @6:57
Were you listening to Tom Scharpling??chresti: Thanks Mark!
Marie in Chicago:
↳ chris in the redwoods @6:48
Yes, importante! Thanks.Marie in Chicago: Thanks, Mark!
Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone.
PaulRobeson1925: “As a consequence of…”
Carries force
Thank you, Mark. Well said
Mxter Baba:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:58
word, handykins!Marc15: Tom blocked me on Twitter after I donated a lot of money to four of his Marathon shows
ultradamno: I'd think the algorithm would help Van connect with a lot of people with his particular views
G:
↳ estmcmxci @6:57
Bet you’re a FB Anticriticism Bot :)Fredericks: So, Van was right about Facebook.
joe mulligan:
↳ estmcmxci @6:57
tech bro alert