Haha, this photo is great. It's from Obvious Plant, which makes me laugh so hard my eyes water and my stomach hurts. Go here and pee your pants: obviousplant.com
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6:07pm
Spikey BXL:
I'll be back!
Hi Mark, tonics
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6:07pm
joe mulligan:
so my brother just texted me asking to get him a CD from Bandcamp. I'm guessing it's because he doesn't want to use Spotify for privacy purposes (and maybe paypal too)
what do you think? techtonic says yes or too paraniod?
The older owner of the liquor store near me saw my WFMU shirt and asked if “I went to the college.”
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6:10pm
Mark Hurst:
@tim, @ultra, @Handy, @Bas, @spodiodi, @Deano, @Wendy, @Bea, @joe m, @joe_r, @Spikey, @chresti - welcome to all of you! Thanks for joining me.
i had a girlfriend who worked at a restaurant, and one of the other servers had the same kind of reaction to mw while we were out seeing a show. YOU WENT TO COLLEGE!? :) bless her. i don't even remember her name
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6:12pm
Spikey BXL:
Post mortem you can use drop-pine-box
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6:14pm
Handy Haversack:
An interesting point from The Dawn of Everything is that over the past 100,000+ years of our existence, only those periods of human political experimentation that involved oppression and top-down command left things like stone monuments and sepulchers. When we have enjoyed equality and commonality, we have not left our marks in the same way. So another note that tech is the new form of human oppression.
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6:15pm
ultradamno:
Charlie Daniels still posts about Benghazi
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6:15pm
tim:
Joe - buy the cd this Friday 9/6. Bandcamp does 'Bandcamp Friday' on the first Friday of each month. 100% of the money goes to bands on Bandcamp Friday.
6:15pm
spodiodi:
delete everything now, i've been saying for years
As I told you, I got a very troubling diagnosis in early 2020. Thinking about it calmly I realized I was potentially going to be erased off the face of the Earth. My conclusion was start yanking table cloths at the party before it was too late. Thus self-creation that's been methodically saved in the WFMU archive.
Well, I didn't die. So now I've got to live down the monster I created.
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6:29pm
Mark Hurst:
@tim @Marci thanks! I think Carl is issuing a really important warning.
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6:30pm
Deano de los Muertos:
I’ve tried to find old data from MySpace days, photos and conversations..and it appeared to have all been deleted.
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6:31pm
tim:
If this makes sense, how are funeral homes capitalizing on continued digital memorial. If so, what software created by big teach is used?
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6:36pm
Ken From Hyde Park:
Google and company's unceasing search for revenue: Upon your untimely demise, they sell your data to the highest bidder.
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6:37pm
tim:
There are stewards of the digital past outside of the big tech profit model. It's fairly common for academic librraries to have digital preservationists. They work with born digital content. They preserve information from obsolete tech.
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6:45pm
Mennlinn Rebarts:
Ash is also the name of the corporate owned android in Alien who sets up the crew to get slaughtered by the Xenomorph.
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6:45pm
egould:
This scenario is not a "big tech problem". This is a psychological problem of a grieving person.
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6:46pm
tim:
I really appreciate this conversation and thinks it is important. At the same time history shows that most everyone will be forgotten. In modern times, not everyone had an obit in the newspaper, not everyone's name is on a gravestone or plaque, eventually these fail too. Ex: info on headstones erode over time, not all newspapers that run obits were saved, microfilmed, then digitized.
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6:46pm
Webhamster Henry:
I'm just back and I 100% missed the interview, but will hear the archive at my leisure!
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6:47pm
Ike:
IMHO re: Evil Dead: if you’re not a horror fan, you can just watch Evil Dead II: Dead by Dawn by itself — it’s a brilliant horror-comedy classic, and it retells the events of the first movie in its first 5-10 min. much more entertainingly than the first movie does it!
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6:57pm
Ken From Hyde Park:
When I finally get around to making out a will, one of the provisions will specify that my data is deleted. Nyah! Thanks, Mark.
No records/CD's any more. I'm all digital.
I do have a very nice library of printed books covering music, musicology, music instruments, Mad Magazine, and 19th Century poetry. It's yours. :-)
Listener comments!
: Hey Mark and fellow Techtonic Youth!
ultradamno: Mark! Techtonpparitions!
Handy Haversack: Mark! Techyon Beams!
Bas NL: Hi Mark! Hi techtonicpedestrians!
spodiodi: greetings, Mark Hurst and humans!
Deano de los Muertos: 🤖 begin assimilation
Wendy del Formaggio: Hi Mark! I can tune in for half the show, which is better than none at all.
Bea: Hi Mark!
Handy Haversack: Tim! ultradamno! Bas! spodi! Deano! Wendles! Yo!
Wendy del Formaggio: Handles!
tim: Does Uppsala University in Sweden have a really excellent radio station like Upsala College in New Jersey did?
spodiodi:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:02
🙇🏻landlineWendy del Formaggio:
↳ Song: "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"
Haha, this photo is great. It's from Obvious Plant, which makes me laugh so hard my eyes water and my stomach hurts. Go here and pee your pants: obviousplant.comDeano de los Muertos: greetings Handy
ultradamno: Hiya Handy!
Handy Haversack: Glad the best hour on radio will continue for another season!
Handy Haversack:
↳ spodiodi @6:03
Dialin' 'em up!joe mulligan: yay another season of techtonic! wild there's an Upsala connection
joe_rosevear: Hello, Techies!
Wendy del Formaggio: Hooray for another season of Techtonic!
Spikey BXL: I'll be back!
Hi Mark, tonics
joe mulligan: so my brother just texted me asking to get him a CD from Bandcamp. I'm guessing it's because he doesn't want to use Spotify for privacy purposes (and maybe paypal too)
what do you think? techtonic says yes or too paraniod?
Deano de los Muertos: Particularly interesting topic..gotta love death☠️
chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
Wendy del Formaggio:
↳ joe mulligan @6:07
Well. Buying a CD from Bandcamp ensures the artist gets more than a fraction of a penny for the transaction.Deano de los Muertos:
↳ joe mulligan @6:05
The older owner of the liquor store near me saw my WFMU shirt and asked if “I went to the college.”Mark Hurst: @tim, @ultra, @Handy, @Bas, @spodiodi, @Deano, @Wendy, @Bea, @joe m, @joe_r, @Spikey, @chresti - welcome to all of you! Thanks for joining me.
Mark Hurst:
↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:02
thanks for joining for the first half, Wendy 👍Mark Hurst:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:05
shucksspodiodi:
↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:09
i had a girlfriend who worked at a restaurant, and one of the other servers had the same kind of reaction to mw while we were out seeing a show. YOU WENT TO COLLEGE!? :) bless her. i don't even remember her nameSpikey BXL: Post mortem you can use drop-pine-box
Quinn02:
↳ Mark Hurst @6:10
Mark, I'm here too. Just trying not to get carpal tunnel.spodiodi: hiss
Mark Hurst:
↳ joe mulligan @6:07
I definitely recommend Bandcamp over Spotify.Mark Hurst:
↳ Quinn02 @6:12
Thanks for joining us, Quinn, and not (yet) "running into the woods, never to be seen again"Bas NL: The Cloud is the new Heaven...
Handy Haversack: An interesting point from The Dawn of Everything is that over the past 100,000+ years of our existence, only those periods of human political experimentation that involved oppression and top-down command left things like stone monuments and sepulchers. When we have enjoyed equality and commonality, we have not left our marks in the same way. So another note that tech is the new form of human oppression.
Quinn02:
↳ Mark Hurst @6:13
that's my plan B.ultradamno: Charlie Daniels still posts about Benghazi
tim: Joe - buy the cd this Friday 9/6. Bandcamp does 'Bandcamp Friday' on the first Friday of each month. 100% of the money goes to bands on Bandcamp Friday.
spodiodi: delete everything now, i've been saying for years
Handy Haversack:
↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:09
I got both "nice hat" and "nice shirt" today -- and the confusilating part is that somehow I wasn't wearing any WFMU gear!Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Mark & Techtoghosts. If the trolley meme isn't over yet, I found a couple:
www.mastodon.social...
www.imgur.com...
Mark Hurst:
↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:16
Thanks, KfHP! These are great.joe mulligan:
↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:09
love it!Mark Hurst: I have added to the playlist links the Wikipedia entry to "The Postmodern Condition" by Lyotard, which Carl just referenced.
Deano de los Muertos: We will reach Dune status, attempting to cool the servers
joe mulligan: thanks all for confirming, I got the CD from bandcamp. Tim I should have waited till Friday, next time!
tim:
↳ joe mulligan @6:20
No sweat. I forget to wait for Bandcamp Friday too often - haha!San Pedro Girl: Hi Mark and Techtonians!
Mark Hurst:
↳ San Pedro Girl @6:25
Welcome, SPGtim: Great interview so far, Mark. I appreciated the point that "immortalizing" the dead changes with new technology.
MarciB: Great convo. I'm training to be a legacy specialist (focus: family archives) and this is such an important convo. Thank you Mark!
Saltonstall: This reminds me of the Jon Wurster bit where, on the verge of death, his character will implore Tom to “throw out my spank mags!”
Franco Twinkie:
↳ spodiodi @6:15
As I told you, I got a very troubling diagnosis in early 2020. Thinking about it calmly I realized I was potentially going to be erased off the face of the Earth. My conclusion was start yanking table cloths at the party before it was too late. Thus self-creation that's been methodically saved in the WFMU archive.Well, I didn't die. So now I've got to live down the monster I created.
Mark Hurst: @tim @Marci thanks! I think Carl is issuing a really important warning.
Deano de los Muertos: I’ve tried to find old data from MySpace days, photos and conversations..and it appeared to have all been deleted.
Deano de los Muertos: “Appeared”
tim: If this makes sense, how are funeral homes capitalizing on continued digital memorial. If so, what software created by big teach is used?
joe mulligan:
↳ Franco Twinkie @6:29
hahaa don't stop pulling the tablecloths Franco!Franco Twinkie:
↳ joe mulligan @6:31
Thanks Joe. I'm uncontrite and totally invested in staying alive giving certain people a throbbing headache.PaulRobeson1924: HiHiHi!
Mark Hurst:
↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:34
welcome, PaulRPaulRobeson1924: “To what problem is this technology designed to solve?” Neil Postman
Bas NL: I see a market for coffins with storage capacity. Take your social media presents to the grave.
hoeg: wait, doesn't everyone have a shoe-box full of old hard drives on their bookshelf?
PaulRobeson1924: Paraphrasing Mr.Neil Postman.
Hello, Mr.Mark Hurst! Thank U
Ken From Hyde Park: Google and company's unceasing search for revenue: Upon your untimely demise, they sell your data to the highest bidder.
tim: There are stewards of the digital past outside of the big tech profit model. It's fairly common for academic librraries to have digital preservationists. They work with born digital content. They preserve information from obsolete tech.
chresti:
↳ hoeg @6:35
a graveyard of old desktopsegould: When I'm dead, I'll be forgotten. Just like everyone else.
No big deal.
ultradamno: ae01.alicdn.com...
Mennlinn Rebarts: Ash is also the name of the corporate owned android in Alien who sets up the crew to get slaughtered by the Xenomorph.
egould: This scenario is not a "big tech problem". This is a psychological problem of a grieving person.
tim: I really appreciate this conversation and thinks it is important. At the same time history shows that most everyone will be forgotten. In modern times, not everyone had an obit in the newspaper, not everyone's name is on a gravestone or plaque, eventually these fail too. Ex: info on headstones erode over time, not all newspapers that run obits were saved, microfilmed, then digitized.
Webhamster Henry: I'm just back and I 100% missed the interview, but will hear the archive at my leisure!
Ike: IMHO re: Evil Dead: if you’re not a horror fan, you can just watch Evil Dead II: Dead by Dawn by itself — it’s a brilliant horror-comedy classic, and it retells the events of the first movie in its first 5-10 min. much more entertainingly than the first movie does it!
PaulRobeson1924:
↳ tim @6:46
History shows what I say it doesPaulRobeson1924: & goood eveninggg Mr.Tim
tim:
↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:49
Hello!Handy Haversack:
↳ egould @6:41
I know. I feel like it should be a goal to leave as little mark as possible on the world in passing through it.ultradamno:
↳ Ike @6:47
NO...the first movie is best!The series is great too.
egould:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:50
Other than the generous donation of my estate to WFMU, there won't be a damn person left who cares about my demise.chresti: sounds like a cult
tim:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:50
That's my goal. I think my kids will be smart enough to know that I'd be turning in my non-existent grave if they immortalized me on social media.Handy Haversack:
↳ egould @6:52
Well, if I'm around to hear about it, I'll certainly raise a glass!egould:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:53
Cheers good sir!chresti: that background music is like a lullaby
MarciB: This Google recording needs appropriately dramatic and disturbing music - not the lullaby that @chresti mentioned! Yikes
tim:
↳ egould @6:52
I'll be an excellent steward of your record collection! Just something to think about.Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark!
chresti: Thanks Mark!
Deano de los Muertos: Great show Mark!
tim: Thanks, Mark!
Ken From Hyde Park: When I finally get around to making out a will, one of the provisions will specify that my data is deleted. Nyah! Thanks, Mark.
Handy Haversack:
↳ Song: "Destroy All Data" by "Lulu Lewis"
Such a good band.spodiodi: thanks, Mark!
Franco Twinkie: Thank you Mark.
egould:
↳ tim @6:54
No records/CD's any more. I'm all digital.I do have a very nice library of printed books covering music, musicology, music instruments, Mad Magazine, and 19th Century poetry. It's yours. :-)
tim:
↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:57
Good idea.spodiodi:
↳ Song: "Destroy All Data" by "Lulu Lewis"
been saying this for decades nowPaulRobeson1924: Great show, Mr.Hurst
egould: Thanks Mark.
tim:
↳ egould @6:57
Deal!Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
Mark Hurst:
↳ Mennlinn Rebarts @6:45
Ahh good point - I should have added that.hoeg: thanks Mark you rock!
bleubombersune: Mark thank you for another informative show all stay safe and be well
Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Carl!