6:04pm
Saltonstall:
Mark is the greatest, but his substitute DJs are always amazing. It’s like Letterman and Joan Rivers filling in for Johnny Carson.
🤖♥
6:04pm
Deano de los Muertos:
Lee Carvallo’s Putting Challenge!
“Ball is in parking lot.”
6:05pm
Rolando:
This will be interesting, I'm glad to be live for a change, been listening in the archives and in podcast format. Hey, the guest lives quite close to me. - greeting everyone.
6:05pm
Sam:
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Deano de los Muertos @6:04
Would you like to play again? You have selected…. No.
i always think about the scene in 21 Jump Street (maybe?) where the one guy says he was looking to a mirror looking into a mirror and seeing way down in the repeated image seeing an old man waving
6:16pm
Fredericks:
What happened to Mark's voice? It sounds fine, just very different.
🤖♥
6:19pm
Jeff Moore:
It's so goofy when people roll out that hype "AI" label for the same simple human-coded heuristics which have been sometimes-cool (but not the damned Singularity) for years.
6:20pm
Fredericks:
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Sara Clemens @6:18
What?
🤖♥
6:20pm
Webhamster Henry:
Visual novels, exploration games, construction games...
6:21pm
Fredericks:
↳
Sara Clemens @6:18
I am no longer certain how to answer your question.
Me either…I just downloaded it though, so I’ll let ya know.
🤖♥
6:26pm
Webhamster Henry:
I want to make a game that's a crash-blowup-shoot 'em up with a rolling list of all the charges that will be brought against you in the second half of the game. You can tell I'm a semi-pro Grand Juror.
this is unbearable; but if it was sung by a human i'd find it quite entertaining.
6:34pm
Fredericks:
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Webhamster Henry @6:32
That's just more confusing. I'm going to take a cold shower and lower my temperature.
♥
6:36pm
coelacanth∅:
...but when he referred to the games as "derivative churned-out slop", my mind went straight to the music most younger (maybe not just younger) people "listen" (as if) to.
...except i usually call it "fodder", not slop.
♥
6:36pm
Teknishun:
I was once addicted to Asheron's Call, lost real friends, girlfriend
It actually is sung by a human (Ellen McLain) who is doing a robot impression (and SFX were placed after the fact)! Her performance in the Portal games is amazing.
6:37pm
Fredericks:
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Sara Clemens @6:37
That's just more confusing. I'm going to take a cold shower and lower my temperature.
♥
6:39pm
Teknishun:
"Look we've both said a lot of things that you're going to regret"
that's not hard to believe. but - autotune!
i won't subject myself to it! -even when it's used creatively, which is rare, i can hardly stand it.
so dehumanizing.
Neil Young's album "trans" is another one, for me... once i read about why he did it.
6:43pm
Fredericks:
↳
Teknishun @6:39
So, true. I should be in the shower.
🤖♥
6:43pm
Webhamster Henry:
I use GPT-2 because it does such a poor job of answering questions and completing prompt sentences.
🤖♥
6:44pm
Sara Clemens:
That piece I was talking about is linked in the playlist, btw ("Diabolus Ex Machina"). It's a funny if slightly horrifying read.
6:45pm
DanFA:
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times.
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6:48pm
Sara Clemens:
Yeah does anyone else feel like a.i. is being pushed at us whether we want it or not? Not a fan, man.
🤖♥
6:49pm
Handy Haversack:
Stu, we call those "hangover games"! I'm like, I have a LOT of tables and nothing prepped, so let's just see where all this takes us.
They tend to get pretty deadly. I think because all my safety systems are offline. And super fun.
6:52pm
DanFA:
Mark is tied up in a chair and gagged in the corner of the studio. Send help.
🤖♥
6:53pm
Handy Haversack:
Always great to hear you guys! I am NOT a video gamer -- canNOT figure out where I'd get the time. But I am with you on the AI bubble. And always a treat. Thanks!
🤖♥
6:58pm
erik:
I think it is very much playing an interactive game, you tell it what you want, it tells you what you want
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6:59pm
erik:
it's just there is no challenge, no boss battles, no leveling up to be done.
7:01pm
Erik in VT:
↳
Song:
"New Dark Age" by "The Sound"
Oh Hell Yas! = this album & their 1st were so “fun” to wallow with during early l adolescence! - perhaps secondary to the greats that were Joy Division & Comsat Angels … still good enough! Note to self: find reissues of these early The Sound albums!
🤖♥
7:03pm
Sara Clemens:
Thanks for tuning in, everybody! See you next time. :)
Listener comments!
: Good evening Sara and Stu. Thanks for sitting in for Mark Hurst.
Bas NL: Hello Stu and Sara! Hi all!
Deano de los Muertos: Hey Stu and Sara! I was actually just talking about a game with apparent AI controversy
Sam: Parrots ARE sentient, but I get your point.
Sara Clemens: Hi everyone!
Stu Horvath: Hellllllllo friends!
Saltonstall: Mark is the greatest, but his substitute DJs are always amazing. It’s like Letterman and Joan Rivers filling in for Johnny Carson.
Deano de los Muertos: Lee Carvallo’s Putting Challenge!
“Ball is in parking lot.”
Rolando: This will be interesting, I'm glad to be live for a change, been listening in the archives and in podcast format. Hey, the guest lives quite close to me. - greeting everyone.
Sam:
↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:04
Would you like to play again? You have selected…. No.Stu Horvath:
↳ Saltonstall @6:04
aw, give us a little time to disappoint you!Sara Clemens:
↳ Saltonstall @6:04
We said this is like when Magnum P.I. was on Murder She Wrote!Sara Clemens: (And vice versa)
Deano de los Muertos:
↳ Sam @6:05
🤝Sara Clemens:
↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:02
Which game, Deano?Teknishun: Beep Boop
Rolando: Ai's like huge "never ending" wall of mirrors.
Handy Haversack: Sru! Sara! Techyons and Dice Rollers!
Sara Clemens:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:13
Hey Handy!Stu Horvath:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:13
howdy!Webhamster Henry: Hi listeners and bot lurkers!
Webhamster Henry: I'd just like to remind you that there a bunch of games where you aren't killing things all the time.
Stu Horvath:
↳ Rolando @6:12
i always think about the scene in 21 Jump Street (maybe?) where the one guy says he was looking to a mirror looking into a mirror and seeing way down in the repeated image seeing an old man wavingFredericks: What happened to Mark's voice? It sounds fine, just very different.
Sara Clemens:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:16
It's true! There's some where all you do is chores! ;)Fredericks:
↳ Saltonstall @6:04
What are to talking about?Fredericks: Who is Sara? I am so confused!
Sara Clemens:
↳ Fredericks @6:18
I'm Sara! Who are you?Fredericks:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:15
Can you see them? The Bots, I mean.Fredericks:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:16
Name a few.Jeff Moore: It's so goofy when people roll out that hype "AI" label for the same simple human-coded heuristics which have been sometimes-cool (but not the damned Singularity) for years.
Fredericks:
↳ Sara Clemens @6:18
What?Webhamster Henry: Visual novels, exploration games, construction games...
Fredericks:
↳ Sara Clemens @6:18
I am no longer certain how to answer your question.Sara Clemens:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:20
You're right of course, Stu and I are big fans of those, too.Fredericks:
↳ Sara Clemens @6:18
What did you do to Mark? Where is his body?Webhamster Henry:
↳ Sara Clemens @6:21
I plug my son's VN games a whole lot so I'll stay mum here, but I will say they are a big hit in China.Sara Clemens: I'm actually not a huge fan of the shootybang games in general...
Rolando:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:16
Agreed, preach it brother.Deano de los Muertos:
↳ Sara Clemens @6:11
Sorry, I was cooking. The AltersSam:
↳ Fredericks @6:21
I heard Mark was offered 7 figures by Google to stop his show and go work for them. What would you do?Sara Clemens:
↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:23
Oh hmm, haven't heard anything about that yet. I'll have to look it up.Webhamster Henry:
↳ Sam @6:23
I interviewed at Google decades ago, but their air conditioning was turned up too high for me.Deano de los Muertos:
↳ Fredericks @6:18
It’s a fill-in, Fredericks!Stu Horvath:
↳ Sara Clemens @6:24
sameSam:
↳ Sara Clemens @6:22
Whaddaya got against mass murder?Deano de los Muertos:
↳ Sara Clemens @6:24
Me either…I just downloaded it though, so I’ll let ya know.Webhamster Henry: I want to make a game that's a crash-blowup-shoot 'em up with a rolling list of all the charges that will be brought against you in the second half of the game. You can tell I'm a semi-pro Grand Juror.
Fredericks:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:24
By too high, you mean too low, right?Webhamster Henry:
↳ Fredericks @6:27
It was icing my salad.Sara Clemens: Also I'm not in college anymore, I don't know why I called myself a theatre major...
Deano de los Muertos: Garrus! 💚
Stu Horvath:
↳ Sara Clemens @6:28
Once a theater major...bravedelay (fka mndave): A video game without a Matt Warwick recording voiceovers in Studio B? Meh
Fredericks:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:28
That's too low to me.Fredericks:
↳ bravedelay (fka mndave) @6:29
Agreed.Deano de los Muertos: Mass Effect was so good
Webhamster Henry:
↳ Song: "Still Alive" by "GLaDOS from Portal (Ellen McLain)"
I really love "Still Alive"DanFA:
↳ Song: "Still Alive" by "GLaDOS from Portal (Ellen McLain)"
Ipecac put this out?Stu Horvath: i havent heard this song in over a decade damn.
Deano de los Muertos:
↳ bravedelay (fka mndave) @6:29
Look out for that Big Daddy!Sara Clemens:
↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:28
What a hunk!coelacanth∅:
↳ Song: "Still Alive" by "GLaDOS from Portal (Ellen McLain)"
speaking of derivative churned-out slop!Fredericks:
↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:25
Thanks, Deano. I hope it helps. I think, the heat is getting to me. Someone lower the air on Florida please.Webhamster Henry:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:31
Joe McGinty, Jonathan Coulton, Sara Quin made a live version with Dorit Crysler on theremin: www.youtube.com...Fredericks:
↳ coelacanth∅ @6:32
What are you saying?coelacanth∅:
↳ Fredericks @6:33
this is unbearable; but if it was sung by a human i'd find it quite entertaining.Fredericks:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:32
That's just more confusing. I'm going to take a cold shower and lower my temperature.coelacanth∅: ...but when he referred to the games as "derivative churned-out slop", my mind went straight to the music most younger (maybe not just younger) people "listen" (as if) to.
...except i usually call it "fodder", not slop.
Teknishun: I was once addicted to Asheron's Call, lost real friends, girlfriend
Sara Clemens:
↳ coelacanth∅ @6:34
It actually is sung by a human (Ellen McLain) who is doing a robot impression (and SFX were placed after the fact)! Her performance in the Portal games is amazing.Fredericks:
↳ Sara Clemens @6:37
That's just more confusing. I'm going to take a cold shower and lower my temperature.Teknishun: "Look we've both said a lot of things that you're going to regret"
coelacanth∅:
↳ Sara Clemens @6:37
that's not hard to believe. but - autotune!i won't subject myself to it! -even when it's used creatively, which is rare, i can hardly stand it.
so dehumanizing.
Sara Clemens:
↳ coelacanth∅ @6:39
That's fair. This is admittedly the one time I like it – I generally don't like it in my actual music.coelacanth∅:
↳ Sara Clemens @6:41
Neil Young's album "trans" is another one, for me... once i read about why he did it.Fredericks:
↳ Teknishun @6:39
So, true. I should be in the shower.Webhamster Henry: I use GPT-2 because it does such a poor job of answering questions and completing prompt sentences.
Sara Clemens: That piece I was talking about is linked in the playlist, btw ("Diabolus Ex Machina"). It's a funny if slightly horrifying read.
DanFA: It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times.
Sara Clemens: Yeah does anyone else feel like a.i. is being pushed at us whether we want it or not? Not a fan, man.
Handy Haversack: Stu, we call those "hangover games"! I'm like, I have a LOT of tables and nothing prepped, so let's just see where all this takes us.
They tend to get pretty deadly. I think because all my safety systems are offline. And super fun.
Handy Haversack:
↳ Sara Clemens @6:48
WORDStu Horvath:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:49
hahah the key is to just do this ALL THE TIME!Deano de los Muertos:
↳ Sara Clemens @6:48
YepHandy Haversack:
↳ Stu Horvath @6:49
It's sort of the Nu-OSR way, right? "There's a table for that."Stu Horvath:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:50
for sure. I just never played that way before, its fantasticcoelacanth∅: off to work.
Thanks y'all! very interesting, despite my ignorance to most things videogame.
tchau
Deano de los Muertos: My lasagna is bangin, incidentally
DanFA: Give up, kids.
Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Mark and alert ones.
DanFA: Mark is tied up in a chair and gagged in the corner of the studio. Send help.
Handy Haversack: Always great to hear you guys! I am NOT a video gamer -- canNOT figure out where I'd get the time. But I am with you on the AI bubble. And always a treat. Thanks!
DanFA: Go watch Eddington
Rolando: Thanks Brendan
erik: The Predictive GenAI is also telling the executives what they want to hear.
Deano de los Muertos: Thanks Stu and Sara!! Always love to hear you guys
Sasha: Buying Bredan's game now...
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1625830/Brendan_Keoghs_Putting_Challenge/
Deano de los Muertos: Nice reading of the mantra
chresti: Thanks!
erik: I think it is very much playing an interactive game, you tell it what you want, it tells you what you want
erik: it's just there is no challenge, no boss battles, no leveling up to be done.
Erik in VT:
↳ Song: "New Dark Age" by "The Sound"
Oh Hell Yas! = this album & their 1st were so “fun” to wallow with during early l adolescence! - perhaps secondary to the greats that were Joy Division & Comsat Angels … still good enough! Note to self: find reissues of these early The Sound albums!Sara Clemens: Thanks for tuning in, everybody! See you next time. :)
Stu Horvath: Thank you everybody!