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6:15pm
Handy Haversack:
Mark, have you read Exordia, by Seth Dickinson? It's not totally Techtonic related, but it's really got it going on. Was just thinking you'd dig it as I was reading it today.
Trivia question for another day; What music does E. Musk listen to on his sky yacht?
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6:26pm
tom tom the pipers son:
if the tech character is portrayed as a nice guy…seems his self is unexamined and he’s oblivious and irresponsible for his actions… i mean does the book deal with tech/a.i.’s downside at all….how is the nice guy character reconciled with that reality
of course there are complexities to any profession that distance you from the results of your labor, but it seems that any contemporary novelist would want the character to get their comeuppance
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6:37pm
Webhamster Henry:
Apple maybe announcing AI glasses at the WWDC in two weeks.
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6:37pm
ultradamno:
There's a bunch of playlists that come up from a search...how credible any of them are, I don't know...but Bowie and Elton seem to be staples
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6:37pm
Bas NL:
David is drifting towards the Cloud now..
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6:37pm
Handy Haversack:
Oooo, he has pissed K8 off. Not sure his books are going to be popular with teachers ...
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6:48pm
PaulRobeson1925:
Neil Postman’s Technoploy: The most obvious question to be asked about any new technology for example, interactive television, virtual reality, the Internet, or, for that matter, doorknobs and toasters that "under-stand" human speech—is, What is the problem to which this technology is the solution?
This question needs to be asked because there are technologies that are employed-indeed, invented-to solve problems that no normal person would regard as significant. Of course, any technology can be marketed to create an illusion of significance, but an intelligent, aware person need not believe it. There are those in high places and with easy access to our collective ear who, in speaking of the information superhighway, stress that it will make possible five hundred or a thousand television stations.
Are we not, then, obliged to ask, Is this a problem that most of us yearn to have solved; indeed, need to have solved?
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6:48pm
ultradamno:
The devices hand people an illusion of being the weirdos by following Joe Rogen's example
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6:53pm
tom tom the pipers son:
this whale communication tech is just an example of the return on much of a.i. is just regurgitated worn cultural tropes like dr doolittle… it takes humans to innovate
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6:58pm
ultradamno:
Stereolab is offering ice cube trays now
6:59pm
chresti:
Perfectly pertinent
Thanks Mark!
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6:59pm
Ken From Hyde Park:
To fight those spy glasses, my invention will be a set of voice scramblers worn be my dining partners and me. When we speak, the scrambler sends gibberish out of our mouths and only others in my party have descrambling technology and we can understand each other, while the spyglass people just hear the gibberish.
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7:00pm
Mark Hurst:
Thanks, everyone! Good chat tonight.
Listener comments!
: Hey Mark and crew! Happy Memorial Day.
ultradamno: Mark! Techtoneorologists!
Bas NL: Hi Mark! Hi online friends!
Fuzzy: Hola!
Hugo (NL): Hello!
Deano de los Muertos: Hey Mark and techtachyons 🤖
Handy Haversack: Mark! Techyons!
Gonna bring you out to the yard, one sec ...
tom tom the pipers son: hello mark…everyone...
tim: I'm intrigued!
Mark Hurst: tim, ultra, Bas, Fuzzy, Hugo, Deano, Handy, tom tom - welcome and thanks for joining!
Ken From Hyde Park:
↳ Song: "Gameboy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"
Hello, Mark and two-flushers! www.getflushd.com... 🚽Webhamster Henry: Hi non-AI powered Techtonic listeners!
Mark Hurst:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:10
Greetings, sirchresti: Hi Mark and techtonians!
ultradamno: pm1.aminoapps.com...
tom tom the pipers son: i think there needs to be an update of larry cohen’s “the stuff” but having it’s subject in a.i.
Mark Hurst:
↳ chresti @6:11
Hi chresti!Handy Haversack: Mark, have you read Exordia, by Seth Dickinson? It's not totally Techtonic related, but it's really got it going on. Was just thinking you'd dig it as I was reading it today.
Mark Hurst:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:15
Haven't heard of it, will look it up, thanks!PaulRobeson1925: Church and Times SQ all a-lot of nothing.
tim: My local library has The Cloud Intern on order. I'm first in line!
Mark Hurst:
↳ tim @6:19
Nice!tim: In fiction, I really do enjoy when heels become sympathetic. I like that challenge.
egould: Floating Yacht Rock: an amalgam of Space Rock and Yacht Rock.
Handy Haversack:
↳ tim @6:19
Huh. Mine doesn't!Mark Hurst:
↳ egould @6:22
Sky Yacht Rock would be an interesting genreMark T: Hello
ultradamno: As long as the sky yacht wasn't a gift from a dictator...
Mark Hurst:
↳ Mark T @6:23
Hello, fellow MarkKen From Hyde Park:
↳ Mark Hurst @6:23
Trivia question for another day; What music does E. Musk listen to on his sky yacht?tom tom the pipers son: if the tech character is portrayed as a nice guy…seems his self is unexamined and he’s oblivious and irresponsible for his actions… i mean does the book deal with tech/a.i.’s downside at all….how is the nice guy character reconciled with that reality
ultradamno: marvel.fandom.com...
Handy Haversack: Wodehouse is good inspiration.
ultradamno:
↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:25
The Savoy Havana Band - "Masculine Women! Feminine Men!"tim: What? The sleepy library out in the soy and cornfield is a step ahead of NYPL?
Fredericks:
↳ egould @6:22
Steely Gong?tom tom the pipers son:
↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:26
of course there are complexities to any profession that distance you from the results of your labor, but it seems that any contemporary novelist would want the character to get their comeuppanceegould:
↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:25
I read on the internet that Musk was a huge fan of New York Dolls, and Johnny Thunders/Heartbreakers.ultradamno: Musk's daughter (or dead son, to hear him tell it...over and over and over) is a pistol www.teenvogue.com...
tom tom the pipers son:
↳ ultradamno @6:34
thanksegould:
↳ Fredericks @6:32
Heh. Good one.tim:
↳ egould @6:33
A-holes like Musck don't like music.Webhamster Henry: Apple maybe announcing AI glasses at the WWDC in two weeks.
ultradamno: There's a bunch of playlists that come up from a search...how credible any of them are, I don't know...but Bowie and Elton seem to be staples
Bas NL: David is drifting towards the Cloud now..
Handy Haversack: Oooo, he has pissed K8 off. Not sure his books are going to be popular with teachers ...
tom tom the pipers son: i do not like this guest
PaulRobeson1925: Please direct David to Neil Postman’s End of Education
egould:
↳ ultradamno @6:37
Yeah. But it's all Space X propaganda. Like Elon likes "Rocket Man" and "Starman". He's not rockin' out to "Bitch is back" or "Queen Bitch".PaulRobeson1925: All this new Technology is simply an improved means to an unimproved end…
Webhamster Henry: The upcoming deducing AIs will be very different from transformers.
Aitch:
↳ egould @6:38
bibbety bobbity maga hatchresti: Yeah whats the rush with the AI?
PaulRobeson1925: What is an education for?
tim: I doubt many nursing homes could afford the luxury of AI friends for their residents.
egould:
↳ chresti @6:40
Ha! I'm learning to play/sing 'Queen Bitch' on guitar and I listened to the song probably 80 times over the weekend. It's a good song.joe_rosevear:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:39
Right! I think, respectfully, that Mark is failing to see what AIs are and can become.tim: Good interview, Mark!
Ken From Hyde Park: Random thought: Can AI be harnessed to translate what dogs or birds or whales are saying?
Deano de los Muertos:
↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:43
probably thinking “not again..”joe_rosevear:
↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:43
Right on! Try this link:news.uchicago.edu...
Ken From Hyde Park:
↳ joe_rosevear @6:46
Neat! The future of tomorrow, today!PaulRobeson1925: Neil Postman’s Technoploy: The most obvious question to be asked about any new technology for example, interactive television, virtual reality, the Internet, or, for that matter, doorknobs and toasters that "under-stand" human speech—is, What is the problem to which this technology is the solution?
This question needs to be asked because there are technologies that are employed-indeed, invented-to solve problems that no normal person would regard as significant. Of course, any technology can be marketed to create an illusion of significance, but an intelligent, aware person need not believe it. There are those in high places and with easy access to our collective ear who, in speaking of the information superhighway, stress that it will make possible five hundred or a thousand television stations.
Are we not, then, obliged to ask, Is this a problem that most of us yearn to have solved; indeed, need to have solved?
ultradamno: The devices hand people an illusion of being the weirdos by following Joe Rogen's example
joe_rosevear:
↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:47
And what if this technology allowed us to talk back to animals?tom tom the pipers son:
↳ joe_rosevear @6:49
ah doctor doolittle has arrivedjoe_rosevear:
↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:50
I know! Scary isn't it?Webhamster Henry: “My beta Google Glass / plays a Vine of Beyoncés ass” - somewhat outdated lines from a song I wrote.
Deano de los Muertos:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:51
😂tom tom the pipers son: this whale communication tech is just an example of the return on much of a.i. is just regurgitated worn cultural tropes like dr doolittle… it takes humans to innovate
Webhamster Henry: Me, I want those infra-red seeing glasses. (Not the contacts) www.nature.com...
Bas NL:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:51
:)PaulRobeson1925: Do Tesla cars record everything in earshot?
tim:
↳ PaulRobeson1925 @6:54
Good question.Deano de los Muertos:
↳ joe_rosevear @6:46
what was the name of the movie where giant squids arrive and draw in circles, and much of the plot is trying to breech communication..🦑Handy Haversack:
↳ PaulRobeson1925 @6:54
Sixteen cameras per, I think?ultradamno: You'd think they'd want to partner with Pit Viper sunglasses, that seems more in line with the bro target audience
egould:
↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:54
"Circle Drawing Squids 2: Still Drawing"Bas NL: You tell 'em Mark!
Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark! I also disagree with your guest on some STUFF. But good episode.
Handy Haversack:
↳ tim @6:54
Still waiting for your anti-heel-turn moment!Deano de los Muertos:
↳ egould @6:56
😂 The Arrival..it was pretty goodegould: Thanks Mark! Thanks David!
tim:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:56
Haha!Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks David!
joe_rosevear: Thanks Mark!
egould:
↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:57
I'll check it out tonight. Thanks for the heads up.tim: Thanks, Mark!
tom tom the pipers son:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:56
STUFF…? did you see my early postultradamno: Stereolab is offering ice cube trays now
chresti: Perfectly pertinent
Thanks Mark!
Ken From Hyde Park: To fight those spy glasses, my invention will be a set of voice scramblers worn be my dining partners and me. When we speak, the scrambler sends gibberish out of our mouths and only others in my party have descrambling technology and we can understand each other, while the spyglass people just hear the gibberish.
Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! Good chat tonight.
Deano de los Muertos: Thanks Mark