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Evan Selinger and Albert Fox Cahn, authors, "Move Slow and Upgrade": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Dystopia update: good news edition: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Janet Vertesi, founder of the Opt Out Project: Techtonic with Mark Hurst A visit to Repair Cafe El Barrio: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 2 w/cohost Jesse Jarnow: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 1 w/cohost station manager Ken Freedman: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Celebrating 400 episodes of Techtonic: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Chris Gilliard on Amazon’s admission that Ring spies on us: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Peter Dear ("The World As We Know It") and how we interpret AI: Techtonic with Mark Hurst AI is spreading where it doesn't belong: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Peter Schmidt on the book "Attensity" by the Friends of Attention: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Paul Bradley Carr, author, "The Confessions": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Lora Kolodny from CNBC on Grok's sexualized images: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ken Freedman and Mark discuss the year ahead: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Tim Wu, author, "The Age of Extraction": Techtonic with Mark Hurst The Ghost of Christmas Tech Anxieties - Sara Clemens and Stu Horvath fill in, with guest Adam Allsuch Boardman: Techtonic with Mark Hurst The first annual Creepy Awards: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Noah McCormack from The Baffler: "We used to read things in this country": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Amateur radio is a superpower: Thomas Witherspoon: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Citizens are being forced to pay for Big Tech data centers, feat. 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Dan Morfitt fills in with guest John Ashbrook: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Compulsory surveillance and other threats: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Lori Emerson, author, "Other Networks": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Unveiling our new theme song by Kirk Pearson, and Big Tech alternatives: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Matt Warwick fills in for Techtonic with Co-Host HurstBot: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Emily M. Bender and Alex Hanna, authors, "The AI Con": Techtonic with Mark Hurst David Greenwood, author, "The Cloud Intern": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Surveillance scholar Chris Gilliard on Facebook's spy glasses: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Discussing "Careless People" by Facebook whistleblower Sarah Wynn-Williams: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Sybil Derrible, author, "The Infrastructure Book": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Dan Morfitt and Mark Hurst discuss dystopian movies: Techtonic with Mark Hurst The Defunding of Public Radio with Jesse Walker, Uri Berliner and Sue Matters: Techtonic with Mark Hurst John Warner, author, "More Than Words": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Sue-Lin Wong and online scams: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Emergency surveillance update: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Liz Pelly, author, "Mood Machine": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ben Snyder, author, "Spy Plane": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 2 w/cohost Matt Warwick: Techtonic with Mark Hurst AI and the future of war – with "Flash Wars" director Daniel Wunderer: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Nick Couldry, author, "The Space of the World": Techtonic with Mark Hurst August Lamm: you don't need a smartphone: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Supervillains in tech – with Greg Epstein, Chris Gilliard, and Jim Starlin: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Welcome to the oligarchy: on Big Tech's government takeover: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Kirk Pearson, author, "Electronic Music From Scratch": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ken Freedman and Mark Hurst listen to AI: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Andrew Smith, author, "Devil in the Stack": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Our year of surveillance: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Arvind Narayanan, author, "AI Snake Oil": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Nicole Kobie, author, "The Long History of the Future": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Technology we're thankful for, from listeners: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Astronomer Samantha Lawler on Musk's space junk: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Guest host Station Mgr Ken interviews David Suisman on music and the military: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Dystopia update: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Members of the Luddite Club: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Christopher Brown, author, "A Natural History of Empty Lots": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Yaroslav Trofimov, author, "Our Enemies Will Vanish": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Silkie Carlo, director, Big Brother Watch: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Tim Schwab, author, "The Bill Gates Problem": Techtonic with Mark Hurst What if no one wants AI?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Helen Phillips, author, "HUM": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Even more devices are spying on you: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Carl Öhman, author, "The Afterlife of Data": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Guest host Alan on Rancho Mastatal : Techtonic with Mark Hurst Paula Bialski, author, "Middle Tech": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Google antitrust decision party: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Jon Leidecker, aka Wobbly, on Negativland and fair use: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Tech and the sandwich generation: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Guest host Brian D. on disinformation with Kirsten Eddy and Alex Mahadevan: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Generative AI and the "cesspool internet" – with Jason Koebler: Techtonic with Mark Hurst How it started, how it's going: revisiting the warnings of the past: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Carissa Véliz on digital ethics: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Byron Tau, author, "Means of Control": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Listener questions: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Mark Schatzker and "Food, Inc. 2": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Matt Warwick guest hosts Techtonic: What's the best robot?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst We should all switch to Linux: Techtonic with Mark Hurst What's eating Google?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Chris Gilliard on what AI is really for: Techtonic with Mark Hurst "Data Grab" by Ulises Mejias and Nick Couldry: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Michael Shelley on AI-generated music: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Eve Herold, author, "Robots and the People Who Love Them": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Richard Polt, author, "The Typewriter Revolution": Techtonic with Mark Hurst
Ed Park, author, "An Oral History of Atlantis": Techtonic with Mark Hurst
ultradamno · 2025-08-09 · via Techtonic with Mark Hurst | WFMU

Listener comments!

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: Mark! Techtonubmerged! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:00pm
Handy Haversack: Mark and the Techyons! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
Deano de los Muertos: Howdy Mark and Techtachyons Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
Bas NL: Hi Mark! Hi Atlantonians!   6:01pm
David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids here gathered.   6:02pm
malĥerbo (nl): Evening 🤗 Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Spikey BXL: Hello Mark, luddites Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Webhamster Henry: The new-ish theme is fun! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:05pm
Bas NL: Hello 'live' Ed!   6:06pm
Bea: Good evening, Mark and Ed! Can’t wait to read Ed’s new book!!! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Mark and live guest stars! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Spikey BXL: Does Patrick Duffy have enough oxygen down there?   6:09pm
A2B: Good evening Mark and Tech Talkniks!

Speaking of "tectonic" (without an "h"), did anyone in the Hackensack/East Rutherford area feel a jolt or any ground movement yesterday? I checked the USGS website early this morning and, according to their live earthquake map, it turns out a 3-pointer (as they call them in Cali) struck there. The epicenter was pinpointed at Hasbrouck Heights, pretty close to Teterboro Airport.

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Patrick S.: I know about THE TIN DRUM.   6:21pm
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↳ A2B @6:09

yeh, it was an earthquake. yesterdays news Avatar 6:25pm
joe_rosevear: Hey, Mark and Techies. Sorry I'm late!   6:27pm
Old Dave:

↳ Patrick S. @6:17

The Good Soldier Schweik as well?   6:33pm
A2B:

↳ @6:21

Funny thing is, what got me checking the USGS website was what felt like a mini-earthquake. The floor in my second-story bedroom shook a bit. And when I went downstairs to the living room, I noticed the ceiling fan was swaying a bit, but the fan wasn't on. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:35pm
Patrick S.:

↳ Old Dave @6:27

No I don't remember that Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
ultradamno: The future I was promised i.pinimg.com...   6:36pm
dano59: anyone here see The Beast, with Lea Seydoux? talk about choose your illusion…   6:38pm
Fredericks: Memory Hole it all and rewrite it as you wish.   6:38pm
wadjet37: There’s no reason to change primary sources when GenAI can hallucinate imaginary sources at the drop of a hat. We’ve already been seeing that for ages. The concept of “source” becomes meaningless when GenAI can create endless fake citations   6:39pm
A2B:

↳ ultradamno @6:36

Did Berni Wrightson illustrate that cover?   6:39pm
dano59: >> the fake names of the “writers” on those clickbait AI sites are hilariously bad - the pen-name equivalent of having 11 fingers Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:39pm
ultradamno: I've seen the one by Walerian Borowczyk Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
Deano de los Muertos: All the memes of Vin Diesel, Keanu Reeves, or Sam Elliot with quotes they did not say Avatar 🤖 6:41pm
sensisio: I thought technology was supposed to give us SOO MUCH more time to example READ A BOOK??? Avatar 🤖 6:41pm
sensisio:

↳ Spikey BXL @6:02

HI Avatar 6:42pm
slugluv1313: greetings, Mark! Ed! Techtonistas!

loving this! gotta check out "An Oral History of Atlantis" -- The Rings of Saturn too

i am 66, so i remember when rotary phones were the "latest" technology 😹😹 . . . growing up, my family had ONE phone, in the kitchen -- some kids were lucky enough to have an extension phone in their bedrooms -- and the REALLY lucky kids had their own phones, with their own phone numbers, haha!

so in the Autumn of 1977, starting college -- i was positively thrilled to share a phone (yup a rotary!) with my dorm roommate 😹😹

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
ultradamno:

↳ A2B @6:39

He would have been four, so...   6:43pm
A2B:

↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:40

How about the pop-up news link about Barbara Streisand's "devastating news"? True or fake? Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:44pm
Stu Horvath: The hard part of the writing is how you get the good writing. Avatar 6:44pm
joe_rosevear: AI is not human, but it is *human-like*. If you expect it to be completely human, yes it will let you down. But don't be blind to its power and usefulness! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:45pm
PaulRobeson1925: True sailing is dead Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:46pm
chresti: OMG   6:47pm
A2B: Funny, I would've taken him to have been an experienced artist who'd been around the comics biz for a long time (i.e., much older than I would've thought). Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
chresti: Is there a way to detect the use of chatgpt? Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
Handy Haversack: From what I can tell, accessing the punctuation screen on a phone is part of what's killing punctuation. It's relegated, occluded. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
chresti: Ha "take it for a ride"   6:50pm
dano59: even an experienced editor would be hard-pressed to tell genuine bad writing from AI-generated dreck   6:50pm
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↳ Handy Haversack @6:49

its important to know where to put the commas and shit Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
FoolishBandit: BUFFALO REPRESENT!! 716 BABY Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Stu Horvath: Well done Ed! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
bleubombersune: Mark and Ed thanks Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark, Ed, all! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Deano de los Muertos: Thanks Mark and Ed Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
chresti:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:49

Your comments aid me on proper comma application. Avatar 6:56pm
slugluv1313: thanks so much, Mark and Ed! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Ed! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
chresti: Thanks Mark and Ed! Avatar 6:58pm
joe_rosevear: Thanks Mark and Ed!   6:58pm
A2B:

↳ chresti @6:49

It makes itself known in at least a few ways: occasional misspelling, misconstrued wording, frequent incoherent gibberish.

Thanks, Mark!

  6:58pm
Bea: Thanks, Ed and Mark! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Stu Horvath: Thanks Mark! Avatar 7:00pm
slugluv1313:

↳ Song: "Atlantis" by "Donovan"

💚💙💚
i wrote a paper about Atlantis for one of my high school classes . . . using books! from the library! for my research

and typed up these lyrics for the opening page -- with a typewriter! 😸😸

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chresti:

↳ A2B @6:58

My phone often tries to force me to say gibberish Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
DjLorraine: I called a radio station as a child and requested this Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:02pm
chresti:

↳ chresti @7:01

If I don't disable auto correct.