Listener comments!

🤖 ♥ 5:48pm
: Mark! Techtoneatmen! 🤖 ♥ 5:59pm
Handy Haversack: Mark and the Techyons! ♥ 6:00pm
cosmic matrix: well hello there! wonder if they’ll talk about kitboga 🤖 ♥ 6:01pm
Bas NL: Hi Mark! All! 🤖 ♥ 6:01pm
ultradamno: m.media-amazon.com... 🤖 ♥ 6:02pm
Deano de los Muertos: Heya Mark and gang 🤖 ♥ 6:02pm
Will thee SG OCNY: Good evening Mark Hurst and All!!! 🤖 ♥ 6:02pm
DjLorraine: Grateful for Techtonic, hey   6:03pm
Bea: Good evening! Excited for tonight’s interview! 🤖 ♥ 6:04pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Besides dumb spam emails, the only scams I've come across are the recent EZ-Pass text messages. Hello, Mark and scammer times! ♥ 6:04pm
PaulRobeson1925: Hi Hi Hi 🤖 ♥ 6:05pm
ultradamno: I was getting fake pegasus/doxxing threats for a awhile a few months ago, they appear to have tapered off. 6:05pm
Mister Dobalina: No more Prince of foreign lands emails. 6:06pm
MarciB: Hello Mark + Tech folks - really interested in this show (as a privacy advocate). This sounds like the sort of thing covered in New York magazine last year... 🤖 ♥ 6:06pm
chris in the redwoods: hi, Mark and folks. egad... listening intently. 🤖 ♥ 6:06pm
Will thee SG OCNY:

↳ Mister Dobalina @6:05

But long lost uncle Mortimer and his camel 6:07pm
MarciB:

↳ ultradamno @6:05

I'm a solopreneur and have been threatened. So much so that I've curtailed promoting my business online. So sorry you went thru that too. 🤖 ♥ 6:08pm
Webhamster Henry: Hi Friends... Pig Butchering is a really old scam. But they are updated with AI grammar and writing skills (and photo and voice faking) ♥ 6:08pm
other nadia (hectic): hey everyone ♥ 6:08pm
Mark Hurst: ultra, Handy, cosmic, Bas, Deano, WtSG, DjL, Bea, KfHP, PaulR, Mr. Dobalina, chris - welcome to all of you! 6:09pm
MarciB:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:08

and Deep Fakes too I'm sure 6:09pm
Mister Dobalina: I'm actively job searching and my mom forwards me job recruiters who text her for me to follow up with. Such junk. ♥ 6:10pm
dale: was visiting an older couple and woman got a phone call that her paramount account was about to expire. she went to get her credit card and i asked 'do you HAVE a paramount account?' and she said 'i didn't think we did but i don't know. i convinced her to hang up and she could go online to reup if she actually had an account - they didn't. but she was ready to fork over a couple hundred bucks. 6:10pm
Mister Dobalina: This happened to my gf's friends step dad. He lost over 100k. Super bananas. 🤖 ♥ 6:10pm
Webhamster Henry: The Romance Scam part of this is particularly cruel: en.wikipedia.org... 6:11pm
Mister Dobalina: And this was over 5 years ago.   6:11pm
Sam: There are some very predatory radio stations out there too who scam their listeners out of tens or even hundreds of dollars by telling them they love them and promising them t-shirts and so-called “DJ Premiums.” Don’t fall for it! 🤖 ♥ 6:11pm
herb.nyc: I’m Chinese. I’ll apologize for the actions of my cousins in the home country. Ugh. ♥ 6:12pm
Folsom:

↳ Sam @6:11

Yeah I get hit by this scam twice a year, pretty much every year. ♥ 6:14pm
PaulRobeson1925: Oh boy 🤖 ♥ 6:14pm
joe mulligan:

↳ Song: "Interview with Sue-Lin Wong"

I used to make elaborate and hilarious replies to pig butchers until they gave up (repeatedly asking them to explain cryptocurrency, telling them stories like a murderous gang was after us both), but once I found the pig butchers get beaten by their syndicate bosses, I stopped. 🤖 ♥ 6:15pm
Webhamster Henry: The Spanish Prisoner is another elaborate scam: en.wikipedia.org... 🤖 ♥ 6:15pm
efd: I’m an Evan. I apologize for the actions of criminals using my otherwise trustworthy name. 6:16pm
Mister Dobalina:

↳ Folsom @6:12

Off to make a sangwitch but I'll be listening. 🤖 ♥ 6:16pm
herb.nyc:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:15

Right. A David Mamet movie. Real good 🤖 ♥ 6:16pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:08

Mark, can you remind me what the site is that you use to view YouTube videos in privacy safety? 🤖 ♥ 6:16pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ herb.nyc @6:16

Great to see Steve Martin be the bad guy! ♥ 6:17pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:16

I use the DuckDuckGo web browser - if you open a youtube URL in the DDG browser, it plays the YouTube video in "Duck Player," which strips out Google's surveillance. 🤖 ♥ 6:17pm
herb.nyc:

↳ efd @6:15

Haha. I met an Evan last night. Nice guy. *I think* 🤖 ♥ 6:18pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:17

Ah, OK. I installed DDG once, but my computer suddenly got super slow, so I felt I had to uninstall. ♥ 6:18pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ efd @6:15

You're one of the good Evans :) 🤖 ♥ 6:18pm
efd: For folks who use Reddit (I know, I know), the r/Scams subreddit is a revelation, and a good way to keep pig-butchering and other scams top of mind. 🤖 ♥ 6:18pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:18

I use their search, of course. ♥ 6:19pm
Mark Hurst: "The vast majority of crime is now happening online." Sometimes I think the internet was a mistake. 🤖 ♥ 6:20pm
efd:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:18

I appreciate that endorsement. 🤖 ♥ 6:20pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:18

I've got the DDG browser on my laptop and it's not slow. Sorry it didn't work out for you.   6:20pm
Sam: So if you just don’t talk to strangers online you should be fine. 🤖 ♥ 6:20pm
Webhamster Henry: Have you ever done a show on click farms and other large scale brute force SEO and ad revenue scamming? 🤖 ♥ 6:21pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:20

Maybe I'll try again. It was weird. 🤖 ♥ 6:21pm
Webhamster Henry: DDG is my default browser! ♥ 6:21pm
timurf: Years ago I started listening to this independent radio station in northern NJ. Over time, several DJs drew me in with their subliminal playlists, eventually causing me to contribute continuing monthly donations for over a decade now. 😫😉🤪 🤖 ♥ 6:22pm
Bas NL: With so much money in scamming... let's scam the scammers! ♥ 6:23pm
PaulRobeson1925:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:19

The internet is a larger flop than the moving image   6:24pm
SegFish: Wow. some sort of glitch! for the paat 40minsall i heard on this station was weird CREEPY AI music scape. then i stopped the stream started it again and now it is an i nterview. so odd... ♥ 6:25pm
PaulRobeson1925:

↳ PaulRobeson1925 @6:23

I agree 100% 🤖 ♥ 6:26pm
chresti:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:21

I use it too. I like to think it's slow because it's fighting off all the spies ♥ 6:27pm
Mark Hurst: Here's Operation Shamrock - operationshamrock.org - I have also included it in the playlist links. 🤖 ♥ 6:27pm
chresti:

↳ Bas NL @6:22

Good idea! 🤖 ♥ 6:31pm
efd: More background on the scam camps:
www.theguardian.com... 🤖 ♥ 6:32pm
ultradamno: AI would be cheaper in the long run as well. ♥ 6:32pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ efd @6:31

Thanks, efd, just added that to the playlist links. 🤖 ♥ 6:32pm
Webhamster Henry: Elon Musk’s Starlink Is Keeping Modern Slavery Compounds Online www.wired.com... ♥ 6:34pm
bleubombersune: Jim Browning , Kit Bogga ,Ben @ youtube pleasant Dreams are super anti - scam artist in Canada ♥ 6:34pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:32

Added to the links, thanks 🤖 ♥ 6:34pm
joe mulligan: A coworker of mine has a startup that tests corporations' vulnerabilities to AI automated scams. So it won't have to be live trafficked humans pretty soon
www.cnbc.com... 🤖 ♥ 6:36pm
joe mulligan: (meaning that AI can replace the humans who are enslaved & trafficked to execute the scams) ♥ 6:37pm
PaulRobeson1925: We should do somthing about this! USA went to Southeast Asia before ♥ 6:38pm
PaulRobeson1925:

↳ PaulRobeson1925 @6:37

This time we go with a higher spirit. In the name of mercy but what’s that look like? 6:38pm
?: This is all so tragic. What the heck!? 🤖 ♥ 6:40pm
Handy Haversack: I am going to go start cooking. Thanks, Mark, and thanks to Sue-Lin as well! ♥ 6:40pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:40

Thanks, Handy   6:41pm
Sam: If they made The Sopranos today half of it would be them perpetrating this stuff. 🤖 ♥ 6:42pm
Webhamster Henry: Any non in-your-face crime is not in a police dept's skill set. And with federal enforcement being disabled.... you can see where this is going. ♥ 6:43pm
tom tom the pipers son: re: trump admin. i’d think they feel an allegiance with these scammers 6:43pm
MarciB: I'll be sharing this far and wide. I feel pretty pessimistic about this being taken care of - our govt is now Scam Inc. 🤖 ♥ 6:43pm
Will thee SG OCNY: This is wild and troubling 6:43pm
MarciB:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:43

You got that right 🤖 ♥ 6:43pm
joe mulligan: remember pizzagate? and a lot of the "sex trafficking" complaints? where are those people now 🤖 ♥ 6:43pm
tim: Hi Mark. Hi everyone. Really great and disheartening at the same time. This fuckin world. 🤖 ♥ 6:44pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:43

well, f-elan, at least, is literally profiting from it. 🤖 ♥ 6:44pm
Webhamster Henry: Another podcast to listen to while I put off doing my taxes. 🤖 ♥ 6:44pm
efd:

↳ joe mulligan @6:43

In the government. ♥ 6:45pm
PaulRobeson1925:

↳ PaulRobeson1925 @6:38

Peace is a concept less clearly defined than is war. How do we go in the name of higher ideals? And promote our values and defeat Scam inc?

1954-1975 we went to Southeast Asia. We can go again

♥ 6:45pm
cosmic matrix: omg! this is wild. 🤖 ♥ 6:45pm
ultradamno: Plus, police are kind of naturally disposed toward protecting people with a lot of resources, regardless of how they got it. ♥ 6:46pm
Mark Hurst: "Online we need to all be less trusting, and offline we need to be more trusting and be more in touch with our family, and our neighbors, and our friends." ♥ 6:47pm
PaulRobeson1925: “Strange Days have found us..”   6:47pm
Sam: I get unsolicited emails from random groups about various issues and there will be a link on the bottom that says “Unsubscribe” but I’m hesitant to click any links whatsoever. 🤖 ♥ 6:47pm
ultradamno: And Comet didn't even have a basement. 6:47pm
MarciB: The way the Stock Market is going, these scammers won't have any "life savings" to exploit.   6:48pm
?:

↳ Sam @6:47

dont even open them, just delete 🤖 ♥ 6:49pm
efd:

↳ MarciB @6:47

But it also makes people more fearful, and perhaps more inclined to try to move the money they have left to something that they think might be “safer.” ♥ 6:50pm
cosmic matrix: great interview and program in general! definitely going to share with my older family members etc. ♥ 6:50pm
PaulRobeson1925: 100% a mistake 🤖 ♥ 6:50pm
Bas NL: The good old days of offline crime.. 🤖 ♥ 6:50pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ Sam @6:47

Sometimes that works, mostly it's best to ignore it. Also, be like me and never automatically load images, because the tracking pixel lets them know you opened the email, which means it's a valid address to a potential victim. 6:50pm
MarciB:

↳ cosmic matrix @6:50

Good point, EFD!   6:51pm
Sam:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:50

But they’re almost always legit emails. That’s what drives me crazy. 🤖 ♥ 6:52pm
Will thee SG OCNY:

↳ Sam @6:51

Also the text and call scams. Some of them are getting really good too 6:52pm
MarciB: It's akin as your show on the Uygers being trafficked and enslaved in China. Not much we can do - but important to know about.   6:53pm
?: in the olden days people got scammed in person 🤖 ♥ 6:54pm
Deano de los Muertos: Thanks for another informative show, Mark 🫡 🤖 ♥ 6:54pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

↳ @6:53

Or through the mail.   6:55pm
wenzo: Ezpass ♥ 6:55pm
tom tom the pipers son: re: internet… agree mark…. maybe a misstep…. the scammers and ours and others in power, all seem to be in the same phenomenological, historical wave that we are swept up in... ♥ 6:55pm
PaulRobeson1925: You owe EZpass $40 dollars
Pay now ♥ 6:56pm
PaulRobeson1925:

↳ wenzo @6:55

Oh. Baby 🤖 ♥ 6:56pm
Will thee SG OCNY: If I ever get an email that looks like my bank, cc, whatever... I open the real site log in securely and check my information ♥ 6:56pm
cosmic matrix: that’s why i don’t pay my bills! you never know, they could be scammers! :) 🤖 ♥ 6:56pm
efd: Any email or text that tries to create a sense of urgency should be treated with extreme caution. 🤖 ♥ 6:56pm
Webhamster Henry: What Law Enforcement needs to do is give out honeypot SSNs, bank accounts, etc that you can claim is your own in case you get that far into the scam.   6:57pm
?:

↳ cosmic matrix @6:56

excellent!! 🤖 ♥ 6:57pm
ultradamno: This could be a scam but...Doc Severinsen in the next hour bsky.app... 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
Will thee SG OCNY:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:56

That would be kinda cool 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
Bas NL: My bank urges everyone to forward dodgy emails related to the bank to them so they can take action. ♥ 6:58pm
PaulRobeson1925: Farm that old asparagus, baby   6:58pm
Sam:

↳ ultradamno @6:57

Is it safe to click on links posted on the WFMU chat board?? I would say no! ♥ 6:59pm
cosmic matrix: thanks mark!   6:59pm
Bea: Thanks so much, Mark! Great interview!! 🤖 ♥ 6:59pm
Will thee SG OCNY: Thank you Mark Hurst, Sue-Lin Wong, and the Accu Peeps!!! 🤖 ♥ 6:59pm
Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Sue-Lin; great job! 🤖 ♥ 6:59pm
Webhamster Henry: I have days where I forward 1/2 dozen bogus Pay Pal impersonators to [email protected] ♥ 6:59pm
tom tom the pipers son: thanks for this mark... 🤖 ♥ 6:59pm
chris in the redwoods: thanks, Mark and Sue-Lin. holy crap! 🤖 ♥ 6:59pm
Webhamster Henry: This was a really important show to air! Thanks! 🤖 ♥ 7:00pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark. We have been warned! 🤖 ♥ 7:01pm
Will thee SG OCNY: Stop the scam ™ ♥ 7:01pm
Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!