Listener comments!

🤖 ♥ 5:55pm
: Mark! Techtoniteen Idols! 🤖 ♥ 6:00pm
Bas NL: Hellos Mark and alls!   6:01pm
Fredericks: Luddites Unite! ♥ 6:02pm
PaulRobeson1924: Morninggggg 🤖 ♥ 6:04pm
tim: Hey Mark and everyone! The Luddite Club members are my new heroes! Can't wait to hear what they have to say!   6:04pm
chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians ! 🤖 ♥ 6:06pm
Deano de los Muertos: Hey Mark and folx 🤖 ♥ 6:11pm
Handy Haversack: Mark! Techyons!

Sitting here in New York with David in London -- in New York!

Techtonic is usually a bed-time show for him!

🤖 ♥ 6:14pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:11

stop yawning, David! it's contagious. :) 🤖 ♥ 6:14pm
tim:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:11

Hey Handy! Give David my regards! ♥ 6:16pm
Greg from ZONE 5: God bless these kids. 🤖 ♥ 6:16pm
Deano de los Muertos: These kids are an inspiration 🤖 ♥ 6:16pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Greg from ZONE 5 @6:16

I believe that children are the future. ♥ 6:17pm
dale: when they say 'the children are our future' i hope they mean folks like this person. ♥ 6:17pm
dale:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:16

d'oh! i owe you a beer. 🤖 ♥ 6:17pm
David (in NYC): Hello Mark and all Technoids. Greetings from Greenpoint NYC! 🤖 ♥ 6:17pm
chris in the redwoods: those kids don't have phones in their hands! i remember when that was normal. <3 6:18pm
joe_rosevear: Hi, sorry I'm late! ♥ 6:18pm
Mark Hurst: Hi listeners! Let me know if you have any questions for the Luddite Club members! 🤖 ♥ 6:20pm
2/3 of the Perrin Family: Kudos young people! Of course Kindle is Amazon... the Library is a wealth of books and so much more. Rock on and thanks for the inspiration. ♥ 6:21pm
Greg from ZONE 5:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:16

Personally, I think we should teach them well, and let THEM lead the way. 🤖 ♥ 6:22pm
tim:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:17

The worst crowd experience I ever had was at a reunion show of a band I loved in the 90s. The young members of the audience stood in groups and looked at their phones. Then the people my age (40s/50s) who were by themselves on their phones! That bummed me out so bad! 🤖 ♥ 6:24pm
tim: Their focus is on tech. Your focus should be elsewhere seeing as these kids are minors. 🤖 ♥ 6:24pm
ultradamno: I saw a movie about a camp where all the kids went without phones called No One Sleeps In The Woods Tonight, but then there was a monster. ♥ 6:25pm
Greg from ZONE 5: @Mark: I'd love to know how their choice has affected their real world friendships. Do they spend more time with friends? Do they feel their relationships with each other are different than those of their peers? ♥ 6:26pm
dale:

↳ tim @6:24

is high school not what it used to be? 🤖 ♥ 6:26pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ tim @6:22

yeah. all too relatable.   6:27pm
mr 6: Hasidim and orthodox use flip phones ♥ 6:27pm
TheDerek: Sex is an innate trait in our DNA. Consummation between humans is a form of communication but the lizard brain says "MATE". Abstaining from sex has nothing to do with questioning technology. 🤖 ♥ 6:28pm
Deano de los Muertos: I’m curious if they have a hard time adjusting to no GPS, that would be a lot harder for me to give up than any sort of social media 6:28pm
joe_rosevear: Question for the Luddite club: I know you call yourself "Luddites", but you don't actually shun technology, right? Wouldn't it be smarter to embrace technology, but shun addictive behaviors--like addictive use of smart phones? ♥ 6:29pm
dale:

↳ TheDerek @6:27

isn't it all a distraction?   6:29pm
OceanBeachSF: Does The Luddite Club have any tips or resources for pre-teen kids to embrace this philosophy and lifestyle? I love what they’re doing but I am not sure where to seek this out in the San Francisco area. The school club idea is great. 🤖 ♥ 6:29pm
tim:

↳ dale @6:26

I'm sure it still is. TheDerek explained my thoughts more eloquently.   6:29pm
yippie: i would like to see that small fish woman holding a fork 🤖 ♥ 6:29pm
ultradamno: I know Helen Mirren thinks Kurt Cobain's death when it happened was sad specifically because he never experienced GPS www.yahoo.com... ♥ 6:32pm
San Pedro Girl:

↳ ultradamno @6:29

Hi Mark and all. ♥ 6:33pm
San Pedro Girl:

↳ ultradamno @6:29

With all due respect to Ms. Mirren, that is laughable.   6:33pm
GC in Bmore: I think the West Virginia town might be Green Bank? Or maybe it’s near the Greenbrier Hotel complex? I have a friend in SETI who goes there periodically to use the telescope and yes I think he has to ditch his phone etc.

Me, I enjoy a decidedly non digital environment. Wood stove, Hammond organ and Leslie cabinet, no Wi Fi at home, and frequent use of public transit. Hooray for these kids!

♥ 6:33pm
Sam Segal: Shoutout to Brooklyn Public Library :-) Hey, Mark! Huge fan of the Luddite Club. ♥ 6:34pm
dale: shoutout for paper maps. 🤖 ♥ 6:35pm
Deano de los Muertos: Thanks for fielding my question, Mark…although I guess Manhattanites don’t have the issue 🤖 ♥ 6:35pm
tim:

↳ dale @6:34

I love paper maps! Those make sense to me. ♥ 6:36pm
TheDerek:

↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:28

When I was in the ARMY, map reading & navigation was a requisite skill. It also was a diminishing skill, it was a frequent priority in training exercises. So grateful for that training, I never get lost now & always keep a map handy ♥ 6:37pm
dale:

↳ tim @6:35

i always keep a ny, nj and pa map in the car. gps can lead you on a wild goose chase sometimes. 🤖 ♥ 6:38pm
ultradamno: Funny you should mention tech and zombie movies mastodon.social... 🤖 ♥ 6:38pm
tim: Seeing what's around you and landmarks (like graffiti on the light pole) help with navigating without a phone. ♥ 6:38pm
listener 126464: Luddite adjacent - Lightphone III is on pre-order. 🤖 ♥ 6:38pm
tim:

↳ dale @6:37

Right!   6:38pm
seedfriend: Luddites unite! 🤖 ♥ 6:39pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ tim @6:38

landmarks are how i learned to navigate the woods as a youngster. not a bad idea at all! ♥ 6:39pm
dale:

↳ TheDerek @6:36

paper maps can't be taken out by an emp.   6:40pm
Carla in NC: These young women are right on! 🤖 ♥ 6:40pm
Deano de los Muertos: Please pledge to Techtonic and congrats on the syndication! 🤖 ♥ 6:41pm
tim: Syndication! Right on, Mark!   6:41pm
seedfriend: !!! Congratulations!!! 🤖 ♥ 6:41pm
ultradamno: KOWS...appropriate, even without the dogg ♥ 6:41pm
San Pedro Girl: Occidental! :)   6:44pm
Saltonstall: This young generation gives me hope for the future. 🤖 ♥ 6:45pm
Jeff Moore: So... don't blame the victims.   6:46pm
Menlo Park: I enjoyed this topic. The young folks in the Luddite club are super inspiring ♥ 6:46pm
TheDerek:

↳ dale @6:29

Sexual attraction is an evolutionary trait a primordial instinct to seek a mate. A couple seeking to start a family, reproduction is a evolutionary trait. but through that evolution humans have enjoyed sex, but sex is a primordial instinct to reproduce. It can be used as a distraction, but it not a focus in practicing Luddism 🤖 ♥ 6:48pm
2/3 of the Perrin Family: I love these folks and I love Techtonic. Saw we hadn't pledged to you, so had to add yet another pledge. Thanks! ♥ 6:48pm
TheDerek:

↳ dale @6:39

Not following, what's an emp? 🤖 ♥ 6:50pm
ultradamno: Electromagnectic pulse, destroys computers ♥ 6:50pm
dale:

↳ TheDerek @6:48

electro magnetic pulse. 🤖 ♥ 6:50pm
ultradamno: JINX ♥ 6:51pm
dale:

↳ ultradamno @6:50

beers all around! 🤖 ♥ 6:51pm
tim: Man, I could have benefited from having the same level of insight and empathy when I was a teen. ♥ 6:51pm
TheDerek:

↳ dale @6:50

GOTCHA! Hell yeah that is spot-on ♥ 6:52pm
dale:

↳ tim @6:51

when i was a teen it would be avoiding mimeographs.   6:53pm
Menlo Park: Mark and your guests. What a wonderful topic and insightful discussion. Thank you all so much! 🤖 ♥ 6:53pm
Jeff Moore: And this will probably just sound like a plug for a personal favorite hobby of mine, but I highly recommend... the wristwatch!

An actual, regular, quite possibly purely mechanical wristwatch, or a quartz one is fine as long as it isn't Internet- or device- connected, and only shows you the time of day and possibly the date and day of the week.

That way, if you're interested in what time it is, you just look at the watch on your wrist – you don't get tempted to pull out the addiction device and potentially get sucked in.

♥ 6:53pm
dale: avoiding all media because one has no self-control is one answer.   6:53pm
Fredericks: I wonder if the introduction of color to television had a similar effect on the viewing audience? 🤖 ♥ 6:53pm
herb.nyc: It’s so refreshing to hear some level headed kids speaking, going against the grain. More power to them

Oh, I just pledged to techtonic / wfmu. We love and respect the two very much.

♥ 6:53pm
PaulRobeson1924: It hurts to set you free, but you’ll never follow me 🤖 ♥ 6:54pm
chresti: Thanks Mark and luddites.

the smartphone seems similar to television for killing time

  6:54pm
dave: Thanks Mark! 🤖 ♥ 6:54pm
chris in the redwoods: thanks, Mark! thanks, Luddite Club, you are inspiring! ♥ 6:55pm
TheDerek:

↳ Jeff Moore @6:53

watch with Roman Numerals. My favorite! 🤖 ♥ 6:55pm
tim: Thank you, Mark and Luddite Club! ♥ 6:55pm
dale: computers and phones ae tools. we're all on one right now. choose wisely where you spend your time. 🤖 ♥ 6:55pm
Deano de los Muertos: Great show Mark and thanks Luddite Club!   6:57pm
shrimp boi: This interview is inspiring and has brightened my outlook and hope for younger generations. Thank you all 🤖 ♥ 6:57pm
Jeff Moore:

↳ Jeff Moore @6:53

I like watches for both aesthetic and practical reasons.

Aesthetically... the watch is a small focused arena for visual and mechanical design, and I really like them as objects.

But also, they have a genuine practical value to help people avoid getting sucked into the phone.

♥ 6:57pm
listener 126464: That was great. Thanks for giving them the full hour. 🤖 ♥ 6:57pm
ultradamno: Did you hear about the pornstar with the cybertruck who found out the hard way his cybertruck isn't actually bulletproof (I know that sounds like the punchline to a joke, but...) www.yahoo.com... ♥ 6:58pm
bleubombersune: Mark Thanks for the informative hour 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @6:57

Honestly, is there one single thing about that vehicle that is as advertised (aside from how silly it looks)? 🤖 ♥ 6:59pm
Jeff Moore: There are so many nice and affordable watches from established brands like, say, Seiko and Citizen.

This is a fine place to look, the owner seems like a good guy:

longislandwatch.com

🤖 ♥ 6:59pm
Bas NL: Thanks Mark & Ludditeeers! 🤖 ♥ 6:59pm
Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark! 🤖 ♥ 6:59pm
ultradamno: I like the drain skeleton 7:00pm
joe_rosevear: That was interesting, Mark, and all.

Personally, I'm very aware of the addictive nature of some of the technologies I interact with.

♥ 7:03pm
Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!