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Techtonic with Mark Hurst | WFMU

Evan Selinger and Albert Fox Cahn, authors, "Move Slow and Upgrade": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Dystopia update: good news edition: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Janet Vertesi, founder of the Opt Out Project: Techtonic with Mark Hurst A visit to Repair Cafe El Barrio: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 2 w/cohost Jesse Jarnow: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 1 w/cohost station manager Ken Freedman: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Celebrating 400 episodes of Techtonic: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Chris Gilliard on Amazon’s admission that Ring spies on us: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Peter Dear ("The World As We Know It") and how we interpret AI: Techtonic with Mark Hurst AI is spreading where it doesn't belong: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Paul Bradley Carr, author, "The Confessions": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Lora Kolodny from CNBC on Grok's sexualized images: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ken Freedman and Mark discuss the year ahead: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Tim Wu, author, "The Age of Extraction": Techtonic with Mark Hurst The Ghost of Christmas Tech Anxieties - Sara Clemens and Stu Horvath fill in, with guest Adam Allsuch Boardman: Techtonic with Mark Hurst The first annual Creepy Awards: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Noah McCormack from The Baffler: "We used to read things in this country": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Amateur radio is a superpower: Thomas Witherspoon: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Citizens are being forced to pay for Big Tech data centers, feat. Pat Garofalo: Techtonic with Mark Hurst How low can the tech oligarchs go?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Paul Mozur on the spread of data centers: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Aram Sinnreich, co-author, "The Secret Life of Data": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Widening inequality and Big Tech surveillance, feat. Dan Currell: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Filmmaker Amanda Hanna-McLeer on the Luddite renaissance: Techtonic with Mark Hurst The protest against smartphones, with Logan Lane: Techtonic with Mark Hurst AI and surveillance keep spreading: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Megan Greenwell, author, "Bad Company: Private Equity and the Death of the American Dream": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Glenn Adamson, author, "A Century of Tomorrows": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Joseph Weizenbaum warned us about AI 50 years ago (feat. Faine Greenwood): Techtonic with Mark Hurst Milestones for Big Tech... and Techtonic: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Cory Doctorow, author and journalist: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Webb Keane, author, "Animals, Robots, Gods": Techtonic with Mark Hurst If/Then/Else - Sara Clemens and Stu Horvath fill in, with guest Brendan Keogh: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Adam Becker, author, "More Everything Forever": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Three emerging dystopias: money, water, and truth: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Duncan Moench on "soylent screens" and producerism: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ed Park, author, "An Oral History of Atlantis": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Daniel Solove, author, "On Privacy and Technology": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Burn Hollywood Burn - Will AI save the movies? Dan Morfitt fills in with guest John Ashbrook: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Compulsory surveillance and other threats: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Lori Emerson, author, "Other Networks": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Unveiling our new theme song by Kirk Pearson, and Big Tech alternatives: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Matt Warwick fills in for Techtonic with Co-Host HurstBot: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Emily M. Bender and Alex Hanna, authors, "The AI Con": Techtonic with Mark Hurst David Greenwood, author, "The Cloud Intern": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Surveillance scholar Chris Gilliard on Facebook's spy glasses: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Discussing "Careless People" by Facebook whistleblower Sarah Wynn-Williams: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Sybil Derrible, author, "The Infrastructure Book": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Dan Morfitt and Mark Hurst discuss dystopian movies: Techtonic with Mark Hurst The Defunding of Public Radio with Jesse Walker, Uri Berliner and Sue Matters: Techtonic with Mark Hurst John Warner, author, "More Than Words": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Sue-Lin Wong and online scams: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Emergency surveillance update: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Liz Pelly, author, "Mood Machine": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ben Snyder, author, "Spy Plane": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 2 w/cohost Matt Warwick: Techtonic with Mark Hurst AI and the future of war – with "Flash Wars" director Daniel Wunderer: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Nick Couldry, author, "The Space of the World": Techtonic with Mark Hurst August Lamm: you don't need a smartphone: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Supervillains in tech – with Greg Epstein, Chris Gilliard, and Jim Starlin: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Welcome to the oligarchy: on Big Tech's government takeover: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Kirk Pearson, author, "Electronic Music From Scratch": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ken Freedman and Mark Hurst listen to AI: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Andrew Smith, author, "Devil in the Stack": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Our year of surveillance: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Arvind Narayanan, author, "AI Snake Oil": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Nicole Kobie, author, "The Long History of the Future": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Technology we're thankful for, from listeners: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Astronomer Samantha Lawler on Musk's space junk: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Guest host Station Mgr Ken interviews David Suisman on music and the military: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Dystopia update: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Members of the Luddite Club: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Christopher Brown, author, "A Natural History of Empty Lots": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Yaroslav Trofimov, author, "Our Enemies Will Vanish": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Silkie Carlo, director, Big Brother Watch: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Tim Schwab, author, "The Bill Gates Problem": Techtonic with Mark Hurst What if no one wants AI?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Helen Phillips, author, "HUM": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Even more devices are spying on you: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Carl Öhman, author, "The Afterlife of Data": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Guest host Alan on Rancho Mastatal : Techtonic with Mark Hurst Paula Bialski, author, "Middle Tech": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Google antitrust decision party: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Jon Leidecker, aka Wobbly, on Negativland and fair use: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Tech and the sandwich generation: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Guest host Brian D. on disinformation with Kirsten Eddy and Alex Mahadevan: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Generative AI and the "cesspool internet" – with Jason Koebler: Techtonic with Mark Hurst How it started, how it's going: revisiting the warnings of the past: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Carissa Véliz on digital ethics: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Byron Tau, author, "Means of Control": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Listener questions: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Mark Schatzker and "Food, Inc. 2": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Matt Warwick guest hosts Techtonic: What's the best robot?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst We should all switch to Linux: Techtonic with Mark Hurst What's eating Google?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Chris Gilliard on what AI is really for: Techtonic with Mark Hurst "Data Grab" by Ulises Mejias and Nick Couldry: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Michael Shelley on AI-generated music: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Eve Herold, author, "Robots and the People Who Love Them": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Richard Polt, author, "The Typewriter Revolution": Techtonic with Mark Hurst
Peter Schmidt on the book "Attensity" by the Friends of Attention: Techtonic with Mark Hurst
ultradamno · 2026-01-27 · via Techtonic with Mark Hurst | WFMU

Listener comments!

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 5:58pm
: Mark! Techtondicals! Avatar 6:01pm
ChristinaInCanada: Hi!
Excited for today's book discussion topic Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Bas NL: Hi Mark and all! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
chresti: Hi Mark and markers! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Wendy del Formaggio: Hello Mark! I get to listen live tonight. Yay! This episode is gonna rule. Avatar 6:02pm
TDK60: Hi Mark. It's good to be here. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
Deano de los Muertos: Oh, Hi Mark!   6:05pm
traven: How has everyone been dealing with the snow? Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
Mark Hurst: Hi ultra, Christina, Bas, chresti, TDK60, Deano, and traven - and great to see you here live, Wendy :) Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
tom tom the pipers son: i think you retain less from reading an e-book than a print/paginated… book…the page breaks in a hard copy book seems to lend itself to human consciousness whereas the e-books constant flow seems more geared to a bot reading Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
Webhamster Henry: Attention! At Ease! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
Handy Haversack: Mark and the Techyons!

Was getting the soup tomatoes in the oven. Just read the NYT op-ed you link to. Nonsurveillance link (wink emoticon!) here: archive.ph...

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
bravedelay: Chaotic neutral monitor layout checking in here!   6:11pm
Cooh John: Snowed in and getting educated. Thanks, Mark. This looks new. College educators see students not being able to read and comprehend books. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:12pm
Mark Hurst: Hi tom tom, webham, Handy, braveday, and Cooh John! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ bravedelay @6:11

How you hanging in? Sending solidarity from BK. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
Webhamster Henry: Did you A/B the content in this book? Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
bravedelay:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:14

Thanks Handy. We here are still in 'believe it when we see it' mode regarding any pullback. Daily business as usual.

I have friends in the suburbs who've asked me if I know of orgs near them needing volunteers, and they're friends I would've never imagined stepping up without seeing the hardship firsthand. I didn't need a kick in the pants to keep helping but it is inspiring!

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
ultradamno: I am Swiss, dead center Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
bravedelay: @Mark Hurst, 2 weeks ago I drove to my therapy appt with my phone in airplane mode, not knowing what cell-tower spoofing I'd be driving through or Webloc device, etc. Curious if that even makes a difference. But as a fellow MPLS resident said, "if we're gonna be on a list, let's DDoS the hell out of it"   6:22pm
New Dave: Remember JG Ballard's 'Subliminal Man" in the 60's? I can't pump gas without a screen yelling at me... Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Good evening, Mark and those in attendance. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ bravedelay @6:19

Fucking A, man! Good to hear!

The most sincerest expression of this phrase I can imagine: Thank you for your service.

Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
S_P_G: Hi Mark and Techtonians Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Mark Hurst: Hi S_P_G, hi KfHP, hi New Dave! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:27pm
bravedelay:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:23

best silver lining out of all of this: thousands of people radicalized to find out that volunteering is good, and that any temp above -10F is Actually Fine Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
zachary: In short, we are our choices. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
Bas NL: I've listened with full attention.. but i don't get the point. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
ultradamno: Can I say somethin' about destiny? Screw destiny! If this evil thing comes, we'll fight it and we'll keep fightin' it until we whup it. 'Cause destiny is just another word for inevitable, and nothing's inevitable as long as you stand up, look it in the eye, and say, "You're evitable!" www.imdb.com...   6:37pm
New Dave:

↳ bravedelay @6:27

So right. If you can't march in the snow do something else. Give blood, sort donations at your food bank or drive someone to a medical appointment.
You will feel better. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:38pm
zachary: Hmmmmm. If it isn't a failure of will, what is it? Everyone's a victim of their device? Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:38pm
Brian D: Such a great interview. And timely for me personally. Thank you, Mark. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:39pm
zachary: Yes. Abandon those systems. What does Mark say? Avatar 6:40pm
MarciB: This convo makes me think of Brian Merchant's "Blood in the Machine" (great book + substack)   6:40pm
chresti tennis booth: So if we stop paying attention do the corporate brains go away? Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Brian D @6:38

Hey Brian! Thanks   6:42pm
chresti: Not in the tennis booth Avatar 6:42pm
MarciB:

↳ ultradamno @6:36

" The Future is Unwritten" said Joe Strummer (supposedly)   6:42pm
MarkMTL: Thanks so much for this interview! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:43pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

↳ chresti tennis booth @6:40

"Just don't look! Just don't look!" www.frinkiac.com... Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:44pm
Megaroni: I really notice this on the subway and what people are putting their attention on, sad state to see everyone on their phone Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:44pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Megaroni @6:44

SAME Avatar 6:45pm
MarciB:

↳ Megaroni @6:44

Everyone is on their phones - I feel like a dinosaur reading my paper copy of the New Yorker!   6:45pm
traven:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:44

True. But that's par for the course these days, it seems.   6:48pm
wendy del formaggio: I love where Schmidt is taking this: do things with people on a regular basis, and mutual-aid and solidarity emerge.   6:49pm
New Dave:

↳ MarciB @6:45

I love sitting down with seed catalogs by my wood stove in January. And paper copy Lancaster Farming weekly.
It takes my best attention to read these.   6:49pm
N'Lo: Hilarious (or not) that he mentioned knitting patterns as Ravelry and more have been extraordinary for craftivism fostering gathering and drawing attention. 🧶 Avatar 6:50pm
High_Quality_Fun: to get this movement going it's going to take some good Tik Tok videos, but keep them short   6:50pm
chresti: Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Try to love one another right now, popped into my head Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
S_P_G:

↳ chresti @6:50

Right on! Avatar 6:52pm
MarciB:

↳ chresti @6:50

Me too!! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm
S_P_G:

↳ chresti @6:50

Dino Valenti was onto something. <3 Avatar 6:52pm
TDK60: An interesting interview. I'll be curious to see their manifesto. Avatar 6:53pm
MarciB:

↳ New Dave @6:49

Seed catalogs - sigh! ❤️ How wonderful! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
S_P_G:

↳ chresti @6:50

Everybody get together   6:53pm
Bea: Thanks, Mark and Peter! ATTENSITY NOW! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
S_P_G:

↳ chresti @6:50

I especially like the version by Jefferson Airplane Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark. Another front on the good fight. Resistance is all! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
Megaroni: Congratulations on the shows syndication Mark👏🏽, so proud of you📻   6:56pm
New Dave:

↳ MarciB @6:53

Johnny's has educated me lately... some are just sensational shopping but others have inspiring stuff for a dreamer like me. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
chresti: Haha attention fumes Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
bleubombersune: Thanks Peter and Mark all stray safe and be well Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
zachary: At least they have Attensity hats. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Handy Haversack: XGET
HIGH
PLAY
RPGS Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Deano de los Muertos: Thanks, Mark!   6:58pm
New Dave: Gardening, too. Thanks Mark! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
chresti: There's a new ball rage I hear Avatar 6:59pm
ChristinaInCanada: Thanks Mark! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
zachary: Thanks, Mark. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
chresti: Thanks Mark!
dopamine is very catchy! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
S_P_G: Thank you, Mark. Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
chresti: They're jerking around with our dopamine receptors
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