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6:04pm
DjLorraine:
*practices a respectful bow*
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6:04pm
Webhamster Henry:
I'm an open faced sandwich right now...actually, the bottom layer is mostly gone. I'm of course morphing into the top layer.
6:08pm
Fredericks:
Not elderly, but parent free. An orphan?
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6:08pm
Jim the Poet:
I'm pretty sure I don't have kids
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6:08pm
Steve Del Sol:
Yes. My sandwich has already been eaten. But this happens to most of us, yes? We all eat THIS sandwich.
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6:09pm
Steve Del Sol:
Should a made sandwiches for dinner...
Today my 13yr old made fun of me (49) because I had received App usage advice from an old man (60+) at the healthcare provider's booth at the hospital.
IDK whether a different release date would have made a difference for Crowdstrike.
Former wife is a computer programmer at UPS. They install new software updates at, like 4:30 AM on a Sunday. If something goes wrong, they work like fiends to fix it.
"When John called home to warn the Voights, Max, recognizing "Janelle" as a Terminator imposter, barked furiously. John therefore feared that the T-1000 was already at the house, and asked the T-800 at his side about this. The T-800 then proceeded to speak with the T-1000 over the phone, imitating John's voice. After learning the dog's real name Max from John, he asked "Janelle" why Wolfie was barking. "Janelle" failed to recognize that the name was incorrect, assuring that "Wolfie" was just fine. Thus the T-1000 inadvertently gave away that it was not the real Janelle. The T-800 immediately hung up and informed John that his foster parents were dead."
6:29pm
Marci:
I was recently learned about a company called Trustworthy that does DAM work. They are legit - but omg you have to hire someone to help you add + scan all of your info. They are recommended by privacy advocates - but still, if the web gets down, then what?
I swear we read variations of this story every few weeks.
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6:31pm
Henry Hudson's Distant Relative:
Why not just keep a physical Rolodex with all DAM info? I'd rather do that than trust a company.
6:32pm
Marci:
Use the 3-2-1 backup plan that I recommend to my clients. 3 sources - 2 external hard drives and one cloud.
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6:33pm
Handy Haversack:
Facebook, Google, et al. MIGHT last to the end of the internet, but there's no reason to assume their products and services will. Gmail lives only as long as it's useful to Alphabet as the best driver of data gathering. If any sort of actual privacy law were passed or even if they just thought of something better, there's no reason to assume any of these services would persist.
the only issue with that (and I have all mis passwords written down too), is there's the worry that if something happens to your home, and that's the only place it's saved, then you're stuck.
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6:35pm
Handy Haversack:
Quoting Marci now! The Techtonic equivalent of an Instant Request!
Is the volume/content of the pouch measured in.. litter?
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6:38pm
Wendy del Formaggio:
You can also store important documents at your local bank in their safe-deposit box. You have to pay a rental fee, but it's usually pretty low, especially if you just need a little box for documents. Might be less than $50/year. And, you can also keep cash and drugs in there if, ya know...
6:38pm
Joey C:
Thanks for the useful information Mark!
6:40pm
?:
I did some work at a facility in Flanders,NJ which was a storage archive facility for all kinds of data. Not only did they have documents, but also the outdated machines needed to read some of them. The bulk of the building was 5 stories underground.
I want to live there..5 stories underground
6:41pm
Marie in Chicago:
Ireland I think passed some protective legislation for children online and one of the creators said leaving your child alone online is like leaving your child in a room with a stranger...
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6:42pm
tim:
Hey Mark and everyone! I missed the first half because I was outside playing with my kids! Haha. I have a 5 and 8 year old and a 78 year old mom in independent living. She 78 going on 90 physically and 12 emotionally.
The sources would total 3 ways - so two external hard drives and one cloud source (=3) But also, printing out is great and important too, though I know it's not feasible to print everything important.
I'm sorry, I'm having dinner. I'm not concentrating thoroughly on the context.
6:46pm
Dean:
Remember when the most serious pedagogical concern was that students were using their laptops in class to shop online?
6:48pm
Dean:
My kids (13 and 18) are glued to their screens, but they also play constantly in person with multiple friends.
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6:49pm
herb.nyc:
Am listening. Am nodding. I will alert some young parents i know. PLAY in yr early years, yes!
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6:51pm
Tommy in Neversink:
not to mention how kids are more overweight today because of the inactivity . Many are headed toward diabetes. Another reason to be depressed
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6:52pm
Handy Haversack:
Google Classroom, like so many other Google products, is not only clearly designed not to do what it says on the tin but to load a data mine with ore for Google but also a *terrible* product. It is hard to use, opaque, slow, and clunky. But the fear level among the civil-managerial class about not being "cutting-edge" is so great that they'd rather sacrifice generations of kids to Tech than actually evaluate a product.
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6:53pm
ultradamno:
On the other hand, they have more choices on You Tube of novelty songs called Hawk Tuah than ever before...
There's a lot I want to add to this discussion. I'm 51. I'm 10 - 25 years older than most of the parents in my kids classes. Most of the parents are miles ahead of me regarding tech. I'm still a dumb ass. I don't stream anything other than FMU. My kids get their passive entertainment in physical form from the library. We listen to records and cds. This isn't intentional it's because I'm not interested. My kids accidentally benefit from my morning I guess - haha!
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6:57pm
Handy Haversack:
Glad you're back, Mike Hurst! Many thanks!
6:57pm
Sam:
People are going to believe more and more AI lies. And that’s why we won’t need elections in 4 years.
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6:57pm
Steve Del Sol:
How can we protect them IF WE ARE ON THE INSIDE OF THE SANDWICH?!??
6:57pm
joe_rosevear:
Hey, thanks Mark and everyone--good show!
Listener comments!
: Mark! Techtonkfurters! (since hot dogs ARE sandwiches!)
ultradamno:
↳ ultradamno @5:55
I looked it up!Wendy del Formaggio: Mark! Friends!
Handy Haversack: Mark! Techyons!
Fredericks: Technistas?
Bas NL: Hi Mark! Hi wireless crew!
David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids.
chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
DjLorraine: *practices a respectful bow*
Webhamster Henry: I'm an open faced sandwich right now...actually, the bottom layer is mostly gone. I'm of course morphing into the top layer.
Fredericks: Not elderly, but parent free. An orphan?
Jim the Poet: I'm pretty sure I don't have kids
Steve Del Sol: Yes. My sandwich has already been eaten. But this happens to most of us, yes? We all eat THIS sandwich.
Steve Del Sol: Should a made sandwiches for dinner...
Wendy del Formaggio: Ooh! Wobbly interview!
Wendy del Formaggio:
↳ Jim the Poet @6:08
Last time I checked, I had no kids, either.chresti: We're a moldering sandwich- open face after our parents passed away
Handy Haversack:
↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:09
Just reading this conversation makes me want to go get another vasectomy.ultradamno: Childless cat bachelor
MarciB:
↳ Fredericks @6:08
I always wonder about that - parent-free, kid-free, maybe we're older orphans!Spikey BXL: Good evening Mark, tonics.
Today my 13yr old made fun of me (49) because I had received App usage advice from an old man (60+) at the healthcare provider's booth at the hospital.
Ken From Hyde Park: Greetings, Mark and tech industry.
Handy Haversack: Atlanta listeners were prevented from making the WFMU Pirate Cruise because of this.
joe_rosevear: Hello, Mark and all. Sorry I'm late, although I didn't miss the show's beginning--I caught it on my cell phone!
Marie in Chicago: Paper, baby
Ken From Hyde Park:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:14
Smart KFHP flew Thursday and beat the issue. Friends of mine were stuck in Atlanta for the whole weekend.Marie in Chicago: Nice simple rule about the calls being incoming
Webhamster Henry: The kid in trouble scam is so old I think it started in postcards or telegraphs.
Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Hello Mark and all.
IDK whether a different release date would have made a difference for Crowdstrike.
Former wife is a computer programmer at UPS. They install new software updates at, like 4:30 AM on a Sunday. If something goes wrong, they work like fiends to fix it.
Handy Haversack:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:20
Telegraph destroyed STOP Ask no questions STOP Send now STOPWebhamster Henry: Yes, use the technique as used in Terminator 2 "How is Wolfie?"
Spikey BXL:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:21
Sarah Connor?Mark Hurst: Hi!
ultradamno: The iPad just updated...seems to have survived it...
MarciB: I'm a photo manager and I totally approve of Elaine's advice!
Handy Haversack:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:21
LIQUID METALWebhamster Henry:
↳ Webhamster Henry @6:21
"When John called home to warn the Voights, Max, recognizing "Janelle" as a Terminator imposter, barked furiously. John therefore feared that the T-1000 was already at the house, and asked the T-800 at his side about this. The T-800 then proceeded to speak with the T-1000 over the phone, imitating John's voice. After learning the dog's real name Max from John, he asked "Janelle" why Wolfie was barking. "Janelle" failed to recognize that the name was incorrect, assuring that "Wolfie" was just fine. Thus the T-1000 inadvertently gave away that it was not the real Janelle. The T-800 immediately hung up and informed John that his foster parents were dead."Fredericks: And links rot.
PaulRobeson1924: Hii
ultradamno:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:23
All started here....and he's a neurotoxin! static.tvtropes.org...Ciggy: Gift:
Today - NYTIMES article
"How One Man Lost $740,000 to Scammers Targeting His Retirement Savings" www.nytimes.com...
mackeral: hey folks
?: How about Crowdstrike thouroghly testing the update in-house before releasing it out to customers.
If it fails in-house..it's not released until it passes
Seems like a simple idea, but was not done
?: My math problem totaled 666
Woooooooo
Handy Haversack:
↳ ultradamno @6:25
And apotheosis here: tvtropes.org...Marci: I was recently learned about a company called Trustworthy that does DAM work. They are legit - but omg you have to hire someone to help you add + scan all of your info. They are recommended by privacy advocates - but still, if the web gets down, then what?
Marci:
↳ Ciggy @6:25
I swear we read variations of this story every few weeks.Henry Hudson's Distant Relative: Why not just keep a physical Rolodex with all DAM info? I'd rather do that than trust a company.
Marci: Use the 3-2-1 backup plan that I recommend to my clients. 3 sources - 2 external hard drives and one cloud.
Handy Haversack: Facebook, Google, et al. MIGHT last to the end of the internet, but there's no reason to assume their products and services will. Gmail lives only as long as it's useful to Alphabet as the best driver of data gathering. If any sort of actual privacy law were passed or even if they just thought of something better, there's no reason to assume any of these services would persist.
Henry Hudson's Distant Relative:
↳ Henry Hudson's Distant Relative @6:31
Basically, a physical Rolodex with all passwords, etc.Wendy del Formaggio:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:10
Likewise, I wish I could get another hysterectomy.Marci:
↳ Henry Hudson's Distant Relative @6:33
the only issue with that (and I have all mis passwords written down too), is there's the worry that if something happens to your home, and that's the only place it's saved, then you're stuck.Handy Haversack: Quoting Marci now! The Techtonic equivalent of an Instant Request!
Marci:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:35
I'm a techtonic star lol!Spikey BXL: A simple fire retardant pouch also a good idea for those important print outs.
Handy Haversack:
↳ Spikey BXL @6:36
I tell the cats that only my FAVORITE gets to go in the pouch!Spikey BXL:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:37
Is the volume/content of the pouch measured in.. litter?Wendy del Formaggio: You can also store important documents at your local bank in their safe-deposit box. You have to pay a rental fee, but it's usually pretty low, especially if you just need a little box for documents. Might be less than $50/year. And, you can also keep cash and drugs in there if, ya know...
Joey C: Thanks for the useful information Mark!
Ciggy:
↳ Marci @6:32
Sources??: I did some work at a facility in Flanders,NJ which was a storage archive facility for all kinds of data. Not only did they have documents, but also the outdated machines needed to read some of them. The bulk of the building was 5 stories underground.
I want to live there..5 stories underground
Marie in Chicago: Ireland I think passed some protective legislation for children online and one of the creators said leaving your child alone online is like leaving your child in a room with a stranger...
tim: Hey Mark and everyone! I missed the first half because I was outside playing with my kids! Haha. I have a 5 and 8 year old and a 78 year old mom in independent living. She 78 going on 90 physically and 12 emotionally.
Marci:
↳ Ciggy @6:40
The sources would total 3 ways - so two external hard drives and one cloud source (=3) But also, printing out is great and important too, though I know it's not feasible to print everything important.Handy Haversack:
↳ tim @6:42
If only there were a happy medium ...Ciggy:
↳ Marci @6:43
I'm sorry, I'm having dinner. I'm not concentrating thoroughly on the context.Dean: Remember when the most serious pedagogical concern was that students were using their laptops in class to shop online?
Dean: My kids (13 and 18) are glued to their screens, but they also play constantly in person with multiple friends.
herb.nyc: Am listening. Am nodding. I will alert some young parents i know. PLAY in yr early years, yes!
Tommy in Neversink: not to mention how kids are more overweight today because of the inactivity . Many are headed toward diabetes. Another reason to be depressed
Tommy in Neversink: So glad I grew up in the 60s and 70s
Handy Haversack: Google Classroom, like so many other Google products, is not only clearly designed not to do what it says on the tin but to load a data mine with ore for Google but also a *terrible* product. It is hard to use, opaque, slow, and clunky. But the fear level among the civil-managerial class about not being "cutting-edge" is so great that they'd rather sacrifice generations of kids to Tech than actually evaluate a product.
ultradamno: On the other hand, they have more choices on You Tube of novelty songs called Hawk Tuah than ever before...
Steve Del Sol: Build housing with them.
∫ydniuß: Thanks, Mike!
tim:
↳ tim @6:42
There's a lot I want to add to this discussion. I'm 51. I'm 10 - 25 years older than most of the parents in my kids classes. Most of the parents are miles ahead of me regarding tech. I'm still a dumb ass. I don't stream anything other than FMU. My kids get their passive entertainment in physical form from the library. We listen to records and cds. This isn't intentional it's because I'm not interested. My kids accidentally benefit from my morning I guess - haha!Handy Haversack: Glad you're back, Mike Hurst! Many thanks!
Sam: People are going to believe more and more AI lies. And that’s why we won’t need elections in 4 years.
Steve Del Sol: How can we protect them IF WE ARE ON THE INSIDE OF THE SANDWICH?!??
joe_rosevear: Hey, thanks Mark and everyone--good show!
Marie in Chicago: Thanks, Mark!
listener 126464: Important stuff. Thank you, Mark.
tim: Thanks, Mark!
wenzo: Thanks Mark!
Neil Neil the orange peel: Cheers Mark and all.
Marci: Another great show - thanks Mark!
chresti: Thanks Mark!
Wendy del Formaggio: Thank you, Mark!
Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
coelacanth∅: Thanks Mark
Sam: Cheers Mark! Thanks again for your integrity and moral rectitude!
Mark Hurst:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:57
I have to practice saying my name.bleubombersune: Mark Thanks
Handy Haversack:
↳ Mark Hurst @7:00
Ha, don't we all!Ken From Hyde Park:
↳ Handy Haversack @6:57
"Handy, how is Wolfie Hurst?"