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Mark! Techtonitects!
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Hello Mark! Hi all!
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Mark and the Techyons!
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greetings mark and listeners
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good evening Mark Hurst and all!!!
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Hi Mark and techtonicians!
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Hello, Mark and people behind the scenes!
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heya heya
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hello, Mark and folks.
currently reading "Careless People" by Sarah Wynn-Williams (yikes!)
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we have a well, so electricity and a pump for me
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Will thee SG OCNY @6:05
likewise
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Dutchess County draws water from the Hudson River and sends treated water to the masses. Not the entire county, I presume.
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I remember when those sampling stations went in, ~40 yrs. ago IIRC.
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during drought I do worry about the watertable tho
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chris in the redwoods @6:04
I'm reading Careless People, too! Hope to talk about it on an upcoming show.
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Mark, have you read Gnomon, by Nick Harkaway? It's a few years old but of definite interest to the Techtonically minded.
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Evening all
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Will thee SG OCNY @6:07
nature’s infrastructure
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Hi ultra, Bas, Handy, disco, tom tom, WtSG, chresti, KfHP, cosmic, chris, Robert, DjL - thanks for joining!
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different municipalities have different water and sewer systems. reservoirs and wells are typical water systems.
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Ken From Hyde Park @6:06
I have faith they pulled any PCBs out of it.
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So many people are hopelessly hooked on water. They drink it day and night, and if they go without it they start freaking out! You even see people drinking bottles of it on the subway. It’s messed up. The way things are going every new house will be built with taps bringing water right into your kitchen or bathroom which will just encourage the habit further! Then it will take over society and there will be no going back.
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I heard it’s even a secret ingredient in many beverages
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cosmic matrix @6:10
Ugh, so gross!
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I had some trepidation about the addition of calcium phosphate as corrosion inhibitor, especially since the problem it was directed at was transient. Fortunately the increase in water "hardness" from it was trivial, but it's still a huge proportion increase in phosphate, which seemed to be an algae-feeding concern in the Central Park reservoir.
But I now comment from afar since moving from the Bronx to Sussex Co. NJ.
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Another beautiful book, from 2005: "Infrastructure: The Book of Everything for the Industrial Landscape" which I love, by Brian Hayes....the city-by-city approach of Derrible's book sounds tres cool
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Sam @6:09
I never touch the stuff
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Krull Sagan @6:11
Good pointer, thanks
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A great treatment of TCP/IP, Comer's Internetworking with TCP/IP. I read an early version in the early '90s in preparation for doing a modicum of sys admin.
https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/internetworking-with-tcpip/9780137464197/
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Sam @6:09
Gotta be careful with that dihydrogen oxide.
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the pizza and bagels in new york are decent. but everyone knows new york city makes the number one matza in the world
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“Water is not smart enough to defy gravity.” Well said!
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my father worked in a sewage treatment plant… seeing the underground workings of the plant with its labyrinth of metal stairways, leading to a complex of pipes and open sluiceways of raw sewage was quite surreal… i don’t want to know the freudian implications
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San Francisco has good tap water sourced from Hetch Hetchy. Seattle and Bellevue is from Cascade runoff. Seattle and Bellevue water gets loaded with chlorine in the fall. There are portable pistons that are anchored at wave lines that pump sea water through membranes for drinking and getting pumped onto the beach. Military and construction uses them.
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Cities with lousy tap water have higher domestic violence, diabetes, cancer and lower performing students. Check water quality before moves or vacations.
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tom tom the pipers son @6:14
the clean effluent was released into the reynolds channel and people actually caught lobster there it was so clean… this is across the way from the rockaways...
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Derrible's dissertation at Toronto is "The properties and effects of metro network designs." It has plenty of discussion of transportation.
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tom tom the pipers son @6:14
I have toured the Newtown Creek water treatment plant. Totally fascinating.
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If you're relying on your drinking water for minerals, there's something seriously wrong with your diet! You can use distilled or demineralized water as your sole drinking source and not suffer, because it makes a trivial contribution to your intake.
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Alfred Jarry refused to contaminate his absinthe with it.
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You have to get cars out of cities. They destroy quality of life. They demand massive amounts of parking and take people off public transit.
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Handy Haversack @6:19
ah… an artist showed video at momenta art years back… i believe from newtown
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Plus, the body needs some minerals to basically detoxify. (Stay hydrated ;)
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Hartford CT was wrecked when they tried to turn it into a giant insurance office park.
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Trouble happens when bad guys hack into infrastructure control systems and start messing things up.
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Cars in the 20th century were just like big tech today. Everybody accepted without question that it was the future and that everything should be devoted to it. At a horrible cost.
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Love this show! It also turns out the more highways you add, the worse the traffic congestion gets, not the opposite, which is what Robert Moses wanted us to believe.
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The Big Dig was a failure when you consider how much it cost, and that there was no transit component. They spent billions and billions to get a linear park downtown, that’s it.
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Sam @6:23
i think the difference is is that not ev eryone is accepting it it’s actually getting pushed on us by a small interest group..
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ledzeppelinsucks @6:22
Hartford was once the jewel of New England before the highways and urban renewal came. I’m from Waterbury, also a tragic victim of car culture and horrible highways destroying once vibrant neighborhoods.
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most people who use a.i. see it’s limitations, meanwhile the ny times is asking if a.i. should have ‘rights’….
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mastodon.social...
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On Long Island the pedestrians wave the cars on
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Hi! I've heard about that no signs thing. There is also ways of building speed control into the roadways.
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I watch a youtube channel practical engineering, the presenter shows similar stuff like this book. The presenter is more of a mechanical engineer but does get into electrical.
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Americans are full of the litigious and their lawyers.
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we need markings on coffee.. contents may be hot
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well.... a large portion of voters in the US are currently challenging the "dumb" question for me.
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Awesome interview
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Possibly other than Mexico City US citizens are the most careless and aggressive drivers
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My neighborhood roads are currently being converted to 'bike streets'. Red asphalt, indicating bikes have right of way above cars, In general it works quite well.
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Mark T @6:32
thanks!
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The OMNY contractor also mainly does military surveillance.
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Handy Haversack @6:34
www.wfmu.org...
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Handy Haversack @6:34
makes sense, that crossover happens way too often
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A couple of songs from St. Pierre et Miquelon as a Random Road Extra on Continental Subway!
wfmu.org...
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I work as a surveyor full-time and get to work on many infrastructure projects. diggin the chat
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Hello Mark and techies. Great interview.
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🎶 INFRASTRUCTURE on the street! … da be DE BA day! 🎶
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www.popularmechanics.com...
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Handy Haversack @6:37
Ah good catch! David Dichelle does great work.
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Peter from Saranac Lake NY @6:40
thanks, Peter
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ultradamno @6:41
that’s so sad. should we tell the kids not to eat snow?
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sybil is inspired!
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cosmic matrix @6:42
One would expect...I mean cold wouldn't effect the microplastic content, I would think
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The digester eggs at the water treatment plant nearby here "turn soup into stew," as I was told. The stew is then taken by barge to Randalls Island and centrifuged to get the last of the liquid out. And then the solids are a commodity. Fertilizer for non-human-grade agriculture. Also a sterile layer to tamp down landfills before, well, more landfill.
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ultradamno @6:44
but i guess i mean, does the danger outweigh the childhood joy?
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there's a dairy farm in my area that uses anaerobic digesters to convert cow poo into energy (methane-powered generator).
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Yep
www.science.org...
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ultradamno @6:45
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Mark, I loved what you said about the Big Dig- "I think it went a bit overbudget"
I almost spit out my tea! haha
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at least with global warming there will be less snow to worry about the kids eating!
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sorry, getting dark again. that was a great interview, mark!
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We should really call this sidebar The Doom Scroll
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i like what he says in repo man "the more you drive the less intelligent you are"
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it was upstate too
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...but it glowed (probably from the radioactivity) and flew
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Fifth floor in NYC, I think. That's why tall buildings are required to have roof tanks.
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Handy Haversack @6:52
Well, I saw Dark Water. It's a bad idea.
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Mark you have such an impressive variety of guests. The fact that you appear to have read each of the books of the authors you interview is truly impressive.
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Thanks, Mark! Good episode!
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My understanding is that New York city only has about three days of food at any given time.
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power outages several times a year here. batteries and a wood-burning fireplace = backup infrastructure.
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Thanks Mark! Thanks Sybil! Interesting take on infrastructure.
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One dystopian movie we neglected last week: Hugo. Robot showing off his penmanship, making everyone feel bad.
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yay! thanks mark.
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thank you Mark, Sybil, and the Accu Peeps!!!
be well everyone!!!
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industrial control hacks are super scary! its a good thing the current administration just cut funding for the department that helps protect us against them.
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Start stockpiling water!
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Thanks Mark!
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thanks, Mark and Sybil! great stuff.
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Mark great interview all stray safe and be well
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Sam @6:59
You can also dehydrate it and use it for 3D printing!
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Thanks, everyone!
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Remember when people were throwing rocks at those Google buses?
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chris in the redwoods @6:58
Idiocracy is their template!
