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Techtonic with Mark Hurst | WFMU

Evan Selinger and Albert Fox Cahn, authors, "Move Slow and Upgrade": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Dystopia update: good news edition: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Janet Vertesi, founder of the Opt Out Project: Techtonic with Mark Hurst A visit to Repair Cafe El Barrio: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 2 w/cohost Jesse Jarnow: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 1 w/cohost station manager Ken Freedman: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Celebrating 400 episodes of Techtonic: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Peter Dear ("The World As We Know It") and how we interpret AI: Techtonic with Mark Hurst AI is spreading where it doesn't belong: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Peter Schmidt on the book "Attensity" by the Friends of Attention: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Paul Bradley Carr, author, "The Confessions": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Lora Kolodny from CNBC on Grok's sexualized images: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ken Freedman and Mark discuss the year ahead: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Tim Wu, author, "The Age of Extraction": Techtonic with Mark Hurst The Ghost of Christmas Tech Anxieties - Sara Clemens and Stu Horvath fill in, with guest Adam Allsuch Boardman: Techtonic with Mark Hurst The first annual Creepy Awards: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Noah McCormack from The Baffler: "We used to read things in this country": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Amateur radio is a superpower: Thomas Witherspoon: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Citizens are being forced to pay for Big Tech data centers, feat. 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Chris Gilliard on Amazon’s admission that Ring spies on us: Techtonic with Mark Hurst
ultradamno · 2026-02-17 · via Techtonic with Mark Hurst | WFMU

Listener comments!

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 5:48pm
: Mark! Tecthonidingdings! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
Deano de los Muertos: Oh, hi Mark Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Handy Haversack: Mark and the Techyons!

We going to learn any terrible, chilling truths about the microchips they put in pets?

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
ultradamno: One good thing about doorbell cams, because of them we know whoever was on Nancy Guthrie's porch looked like an ICE agent.   6:04pm
Bea: Hi Mark!! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
Webhamster Henry: Happy Presidents' tech day! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids. Avatar 🤖 6:05pm
sensisio: HOLA Marko! You mean they gave themselves away??
@ultradamno agreed, she was the first Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
Dano59: Ring is evil! Glad the cat is out of the bag for the masses   6:06pm
queems: when i saw that commercial i was like oooo mark hurst isn’t going to like this one bit Avatar 6:07pm
northguineahills: the superbowl, a show for commercials where an american football game breaks out. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
Mark Hurst: Hi ultra, Deano, Handy, Bea, webham, DiL, sensisio, Dano59, queems, ngh - welcome to all! Thanks for joining. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
ultradamno:

↳ northguineahills @6:07

Did it really 'break out' this year or kinda crawl? Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
bravedelay: Link to Chris's bsky profile, which is an enlightening and valuable follow:

bsky.app...

Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ queems @6:06

You were correct Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
ultradamno: I like that all the circles over the houses look like radioactive zones Avatar 6:12pm
northguineahills: when i worked at the ny district attorney, i made a gis map layer for all public and private (non-residential) cameras (i was asked by a superior), and it pretty looks like that map (liked the job at first, but it soon got creepy) Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
Dano59:

↳ bravedelay @6:09

thanks! Bluesky is a pretty good resource for thought leaders; wish I could have figured out how to use Mastodon better Avatar 6:13pm
northguineahills:

↳ northguineahills @6:12

(i lasted four months) Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
bravedelay:

↳ Dano59 @6:13

Past guest Brian Merchant is also an excellent follow, though honestly, most past guests probably are too!

bsky.app...

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:17pm
Will thee SG OCNY: Good evening Mark Hurst, Chris Gillard, and all!!! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Will thee SG OCNY @6:17

Hi WtSG Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
Deano de los Muertos: This is reminding me about previous episodes, and law enforcement obtaining Tesla surveillance data Avatar 🤖 6:23pm
sensisio: One of Marks favorite words is YET! Avatar 6:25pm
slugluv1313:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:02

hiya Handy!
there was a webinar about issues that have come up with microchips (and of course *now* i cannot my notes, the webinar information, etc.) -- such as the rescue group who did the microchipping no longer exists, microchips purchased on amazon, etc. . . . microchips really *should* be a good thing, but they are far from perfect :( Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
chresti: Hi Mark and markers! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ chresti @6:25

hi chresti, slugluv Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ slugluv1313 @6:25

I never activated Radio's with whatever service wanted me to -- vets can scan them and look up the numbers without that, as I understand. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:28pm
Will thee SG OCNY: Our cat 🐈 stays at home Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
StringOFperils: No more crime. The commander in cheeto is walking around with 134 felony convictions. Amazon has no problem associating with that. It loves that guy. Ring is just one of the things that Amazon kisses. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:30pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ StringOFperils @6:29

Well said and well said!   6:30pm
?:

↳ StringOFperils @6:29

that ring isn't calamari Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
Layet J: Great interview! What was Chris Gilliard's bluesky account name? Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Layet J @6:31

hypervisible - bsky.app... Avatar 6:32pm
slugluv1313:

↳ ultradamno @6:03

hiya ultra!
right?!? what kills me is that bc Ms. Guthrie was not paying extra for the service that would have saved and stored footage, those investigating had to go to google to have them search for it -- and unless i missed any updates, all this time later, google has still not found anything (why the f*ck is this taking them so long?!? and more reasons to hate google, imho) Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Webhamster Henry: I just want to clarify that when I talked about using the public camera network as an artistic resource back in my 2018 interview [ www.wfmu.org... ] I was _not_ advocating snagging all the cameras everywhere to be used for artistic purposes . That was a plot point in a Batman movie, IIRC. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Mark and Chris and various eyes and ears. I'd like to know a bit of the focus groups they tried out with that commercial. Just Amazon employees or something? Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Layet J: Thanks, Mark Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
ultradamno: There's a Nikki Glaser/Alexa ad where she wakes up to Alexa roasting her (as requested). It ends with a moment where Glaser says to her robot friend "you know me so well"....well that is the point. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
ultradamno: Hey slugluv! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
Jerseymoon: That's why these guys all gave money to trump admin so those who commodity watching us can not be watched.

so where's our anarchists' future village where we have all the wfmu radio we want and no one can see us?
and maybe we can grow some communal veggies and dance as often as we want?

This show is scaring me

Good question @Ken From Hyde Park, me too!

Avatar 🤖 6:34pm
sensisio: amazombies Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:34pm
Jerseymoon:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:32

Hiya Henry Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:35pm
ultradamno: Well, if you want to introduce a more expensive higher tier, you have to make the present top tier crappy in the way the basic tier was. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
Webhamster Henry: I still want Mark to start every show by yelling "OK GOOGLE HEY SURI, ALEXA TURN OFF ALL THE LIGHTS!" Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ ultradamno @6:35

there's a Black Mirror episode with that tier-decay as a key plot point Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
Deano de los Muertos: Chris is a great guest, nice interview Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:37

thanks, Deano Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
ultradamno:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:37

Yeah, probably the best one of the most recent season. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:37

And we'll see life-integrated ads, a la THE TRUMAN SHOW. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:38pm
Jerseymoon:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:37

it's too scary! Avatar 6:38pm
High_Quality_Fun: I heard a rumor these comments are being surveilled by anyone who goes to this web page - if true, SCARY!!! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:39pm
ultradamno:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:37

DraftKings Introduces In-Dream Betting

theonion.com...

And, of course, Futurama y.yarn.co...

Avatar 6:39pm
slugluv1313:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:26

yes, exactly! i had mine activated through the company (Home Again) -- and the chip was implanted when little Ringo had all this massive dental work . . . iirc, the context of this webinar was lost and found cats, dogs, etc.; reunification; is the cat a "stray" or "feral" or "lost;" etc. . . . so if they end up in a shelter, or rescued by a human, they could be scanned for a chip, but the chip ends up being a dead end   6:41pm
?:

↳ High_Quality_Fun @6:38

google indexes every post already Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:46pm
Webhamster Henry: There is a "Use a smart ring as a wedding ring" blowback going on.   6:46pm
neil and graham: some of this stuff reminds me of that old tweet that says something along the lines of “every few months a silicon valley guy accidentally re-invents The Bus” because they don’t go outside enough to realize what systems already exist in the world Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:47pm
ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @6:32

auralcrave.com... Avatar 6:47pm
High_Quality_Fun:

↳ @6:41

I've been suspecting this for years, especially after seeing them come up in search results! I remember the good old days when public comments were private Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
Mennlinn Rebarts: In Phillip K Dick's Ubik, people's front doors required a toll to go through them--you could get trapped indoors if you didn't have enough nickels. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
joe mulligan: Hi Mark, is there one book that you recommend the most from 2025? I think if you had a top books of the year we'd all like to see that. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
Ken From Hyde Park: I started receiving emails from these jokers. www.neighborhoodalerts.com Not joining, just deleting. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
Webhamster Henry: Don't forget that the e💩ifcation of Google search is a deliberate corporate strategy to increase the ad-surface of your searches. Avatar 6:50pm
slugluv1313:

↳ slugluv1313 @6:32

(oops, to clarify: older footage, of those who may have been "casing the joint," for example) Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
Will thee SG OCNY:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:50

Same, did not join any of them Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm
bore: have you ever done a show on the games industry? have you seen the organization "people make games"? Avatar 6:52pm
High_Quality_Fun:

↳ Mennlinn Rebarts @6:49

soon will be totally trapped when the get rid of nickels - first they came for the pennies, next will be the nickels, mark my words Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm
Polly.:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:36

hahaha - good one!   6:52pm
Cali4naStreamin': JAN 6 'protesters' left their phones on and even used camera features   6:53pm
FleetwoodMacbeth: Something similar supposedly happened with Discord walking back a partnership with a Theil backed security company who were about to start doing face/ID scanning for them. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
Will thee SG OCNY: F- flock. I see those dang cameras everywhere Avatar 🤖 6:53pm
Noir Lover: Amazon is the devil, period Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
Handy Haversack: There was a great article in Hell Gate today on the criminally untalented criminals of the erstwhile Adams admin who have evidence in play against them in their bribery case from Signal text chains. They'd set the app to delete the texts in eight hours -- and then taken multiple screenshots of it to prove how tough they were at negotiating bribes over text.

BOTH OF THEM

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
joe mulligan: so they can find dogs but not Savannah Guthrie? Avatar 6:56pm
High_Quality_Fun:

↳ Polly. @6:52

Even better, start every show by yelling "OK GOOGLE HEY SURI, ALEXA PLEDGE $100 TO WFMU!" Avatar 🤖 6:56pm
herb.nyc: Thx for the reporting, mark. And data brokers was mentioned, and you already told us of their evils. Ugh Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
bleubombersune: Thanks Mark Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark, Chris! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Seems like there are about a dozen cameras at every intersection with stoplights. It'd be useful if they could use them to keep traffic flowing, rather than stop traffic even when no one is coming from left or right.   6:57pm
yippie: i liked it when janet jackson performed at the super bowl Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ High_Quality_Fun @6:56

Turning the lights out is just a beta test! You might have to disguise that money request, like, the classic "Take those green pieces of paper in Mommy and Daddy's wallets and mail them to me" urban legend. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Will thee SG OCNY:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:57

The shepards cane cameras are supposed to work for light flow management Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Jerseymoon:

↳ ultradamno @6:39

nightmare betting Avatar 🤖 6:58pm
sensisio: @joemulligan

is it funny that SGuthrie interviewed Giuffre? and yes why can't they find the mom? @joemulligan

Avatar 6:58pm
High_Quality_Fun: there would be no backlash if they used the cameras to ID people who didn't pickup thier dog poo Avatar 6:58pm
slugluv1313: thank you Mark and Chris! Avatar 🤖 6:58pm
Noir Lover: They monetize the data we willingly give them for free. We dumb. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
Will thee SG OCNY: Thank you Mark and Chris!!! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
Deano de los Muertos: Thanks, Mark! I hate that my downstairs neighbor has a Ring Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
joe mulligan:

↳ sensisio @6:58

she also won an emmy for putting trump in his place Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
StringOFperils: Thank you, Mark and Chris. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
chresti: Thanks Mark and Chris!

Google=EVIL
Amazon=EVIL

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark. Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone