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Hi Mark and Staysh! I'm really looking forward to this conversation.
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Mark! Ken! Techyons!
2026? What's the worst that could happen?
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Hi Mark! Hi Ken! Hi all! A prosperous and healthy 2026!
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Happy 2026, Mark and Ken!
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Oh, hai Mark
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Hello Mark, Ken, and everyone!
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Hey Mark!
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Hi Ken and Mark and the listening crowd!
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Hey Staysh
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Happy New Year, all
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the new years tradition
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I'm 20 for 20 on Show Your Age though maybe I can discount waterbed - I've been on 'em but never used one for any of its intended use cases.
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1/1/18: "Best practices for tech in 2018 - with Mark & station manager Ken"
www.wfmu.org...
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Good evening Mark, Ken, and all!!!
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Handy Haversack @6:04
Same. And I never had an AOL address. But I still use several of the listed items.
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Mi-rgod @6:04
Ew leaky waterbeds and shag carpet!
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Wait! is this the real Ken?
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I've bought 8 track tapes too - shoulda been on the list
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Ho Ho Ho
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I thought it was out by Floyd Bennett Field.
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William Floyd leads to Sam Houston’s Institute of Technology. Or, SHIT. Hey all
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Can someone please make a Marathon t-shirt for William Floyd University for next year? Please.
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Hi Mark! Ken! Best wishes for 2026!
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I think mentioned my dad sent me pages of ChatGPT transcript just making shit up, and then apologizing for making shit up. I should send it to Mark
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WO Town Wick @6:07
Great idea
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We can help by commenting William Floyd Municipal University as much as we can
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If a language model isn't trained on it, it kinda wings it, using bits and pieces that are near to it in the space that it's built out of its training. The bad thing is that never tells you the quality of predictions it makes, or admits that it doesn't have enough info about what you asked for.
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Whats their mascot?
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redkayak @6:09
Bob Tankenstein
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A Bill Foldy
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Humans never get things wrong.
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DjLorraine @6:10
No no no let it be the garbage man
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Also lead ballast from Roman-era ships has similar use in physics experiments, for comparable reasons.
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Bas NL @6:11
I know I don’t
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AI is just total crap... If we could go back, it would be awesome.
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I want a degree from WFMU U!
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Mark and Ken, did you see Eddington?
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Bob Tankenstein @6:12
he don’t look too bad, when he gets cleaned up
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Quibble: it’s mostly sunken WWII battleships. And it’s still used for sensitive medical imaging equipment.
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It’s here?! Smart Can!!
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Deano de los Muertos @6:13
And he’s got some lovely dresses
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so digital copying, LLMs are more akin to analog degradation copying? Wild.
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"Show your age" I kinda hit all those except waterbed (Oh c'mon) and AOL address, because I have a Panix address. And I'm turning 203 later this month! Yay!
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BREAKING THE TOILET
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WFMU drinking game where you take a shot every time someone mentions toilets
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kham @6:13
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Dekoda = Decoder
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“You have been a bad boy” -Smart Toilet
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I guess I scored 20
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REGULAR TOILET!
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"end to end"
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“Do you go in the box?” 💩📦 — Clay
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I just txtd a pic of DEKODA advert to ya, Ken
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Speaking of in-the-bowl data, I coded the Bristol stool chart for my company's app many years ago. [look them up safely]
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tim @6:12
I'm afraid you're just not WFMU U material.
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Deano de los Muertos @6:15
hahaha I learned about that from Clay
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I’d rather it take a picture of my balloon knot. That’s art!
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Should have been end-to-end-to-end encrypted, no?
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Webhamster Henry @6:13
179 here....
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Watch out for escretological hallucinations though!
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“From end to end”- from mouth to anus
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Handy Haversack @6:15
Crap! Back to Phoenix University again.
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speaking of robots, I was in Lowes the other day and they had a robot rolling along the aisles and doing scanning of shelf items. I tried to mess with it by removing an item from the shelf, waiting a moment then putting back in a different spot.
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Mark, If you don't say "Kohler is literally practicing en💩ification!", I'll be very disappointed.
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End to end- from mouth to evacuation
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I have pix from my colonoscopy. Really.
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Who else laughed out loud when Mark said that the poo-cam data channel was "END TO END encrypted"?
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not making light of the REAL WFMU losing federal grants in 2025. Be careful the Department of Education may request all previous grant$$$ be returned, because the fake WMFU has been replaced on their data base. The REAL WFMU is a for profit university
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Poop-“plz take a pic of me from the good side”
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Ken will pay for the sounds
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Jeff Moore @6:17
Me haha
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woah
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FartBook. Letterkenny was there first.
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Oh sure, they can watch your toilet bowl but they can't figure out to not make the toilet take sweat!
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No poop talk, please
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Oh, it’s worthy, Ken. To the right buyer
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tank sweat
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Poop fetishists are lining up to buy
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Seriously, bathrooms should be a tech free zone. There's absolutely no reason for it.
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hey, I just deal high quality poop pics to da right people
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herb.nyc @6:19
Right!
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Bob Tankenstein @6:18
Told you
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Can someone please let me know when they stop talking bathroom activity.
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during my prostate radiation, [TMI] I used to log going to the bathroom via a script I wrote so I could just yell "Siri, log bathroom!" and it would write a timestamp in a file so I could analyze the frequency.
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“You have been an extremely bad boy”
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seems that Cologurad[sp?]
is mass mailing test kits so just collecting $$$$ if folks use it or no??
thehill.com...
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chresti @6:20
Ive got two!
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this is my gym and i fucking HATE THESE TUBES. you have to swipe your badge to LEAVE THE GYM
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Hi Mark, Ken and Technonians—
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I’m from the land of Dorothy the diarrhea lady. What if we had audio!
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Invasive Drug testing will be a thing of the past with the office Smart Can. “Hello, Janis. You have tested positive for Alcohol.”
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ejected out the other side, like dookie?
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Wegmans is big in PA! People like Wegmans .. but now UH OH!
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If I happen to see one of those toilets I'll cover the lens with tp
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(Aside- I bought coffee from wegman’s, Astor square. Was so so)
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swanny j @6:22
I have a voice clone of Dorothy, so it could tell you how you were "doing" , in her own voice.
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I wonder if the toilet will be trading Poop pics with Roombas private shots in peoples homes?
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you people love to talk about dooki
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Happy 2026! I am not a robot :/ yet
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Ken - this installation might be of interest to you: https://www.bernhardgal.com/iamsHittinginaroom.html
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Yes. Pet food isle. They need animal sounds for more holiday music.
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You guys laugh and mock but I have Crohn's disease and lost my colon, rectum and anus to this horrible disease, and I think this device could help identify this disease, trust me I have had to inspect my poop for over 20 years before and due to this I actually saved my own life (identified a perforation and rushed to the ER). It's all fun and games but anything we can do to help with early diagnosis does have some value. I would not wish these diseases on my own worst enemy.
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There you have it! Ken started it!
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Toilet humor
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Ken- are you a Mort Crim or Bill Bonds man?
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when I had to stand at the door at work, there were people that complained the warehouse doesn’t have facial recognition technology, instead of scanning their credit/membership card
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Peter Thiel looks like a melting wax sculpture come to life.
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Saltonstall @6:26
Mort!
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The process of leaking and what's called leaking or not is kind of worthy of examination in a show.
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(aside - experimental theatre, at Soho Playhouse • 15 Vandam Street • NYC
“ Puttana ”
An experiment in sound theatre where body, voice, and technology merge to reveal the boundaries between identity, body, and language.)
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I'm with Disney so far...
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Edward Snowden leaked some interesting STUFF but nothinG like smart toilet
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Let us remember that the whole facial recognition, walking across town, # plate tracking technology came from the Brits surveillance in the North of Ireland starting in the mid 70s ...
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Smart Phones make street photograph less interesting too
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You fly all the way there and spend all that money just to stare at a phone anyway.
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Nooooooooo!!!! Et tu, Disney?
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They’ll sell Mickey Mouse Goggles—brilliant!
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Will the new apple Air Pods be able to register brain waves to better advertise to you? I heard this from a friend
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So there’s no option to just enjoy Disneyworld without bullshit phone distractions.
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Hi S_P_G!
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Hey Mark, hey Ken! Hi All! I was about to say that the smart goggles and glasses aren't doing so well. And metaverse is failing
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People are such suckers they'll go along with it. WFMU listeners and staff excluded.
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chresti @6:34
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Marie in Chicago @6:34
That's some good news in our bleak tech world!
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disneyworld should play the native american song called "mickey mouse" by the black lodge singers
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I do want a hi res monitor (with great audio) that I wear in glasses, but without cameras, mics or AI "features". I just want lots of hi-res, good quality surround media without nailing things to my walls.
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Zuck going for Big Liebowski.
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20!
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I scored 18
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He's a wet noodle wearing thick shades
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I hope the most important trend of 2026 is 2027.
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19. Never had a waterbed
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first floppy i used was a 10-ish incher.
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yeah 20
and I'm only 33yo!
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Some of these are current for me.
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Oh, make that 18, I didn't have an AOL address either.
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I think I'm 20, not sure about the AOL address.
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Dear God I went 20 for 20
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Beta max / vhs
Everything.
I’m 49.
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Lost me at "waterbed"
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yeah 19 too, no AOL ever
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I slept on a waterbed at my brother's house
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The "big" floppies we 8", like the one I had on the PDP/11 . I also used IBM Mainframe tape and before that DECtape. And paper tape. And punch cards.
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20. I had a lie down on my roommate’s waterbed.
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17.. no AOL
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19/20; I've sat on a waterbed, but don't know if that counts.
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yeah, big floppy on a Corvus could have been 8 inches. remember 10, but my memory....
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was *very* happy to leave the waterbed behind.
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I have a box of 8"ers about 10 feet from where I'm typing.
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Yeah, same here – everything but AOL. Even in its heyday, it was pretty obviously lame.
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18 points for GenX Mike!
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I guess I’m at 20…had an AOL account but never used the email
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I’m 18. No aol email or dial up Internet (latter- used computer at work. Did they have dial up?)
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no waterbed, no aol my first email was pipeline
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No AOL
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19, I never had my own AOL email address but I did use the chat and the free disks in the mail
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Everything else, though, yeah. I had a TRS-80 Model II. 8-inch floppies all the way.
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Tim Wu was a great guest
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21- acoustic coupler, ie, modem
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We have atlases for the country, New York, Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire, and Michigan.
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I worked at Hoboken Farmboy for many of my late formative years. I used surveillance analog video for one proposed thesis submission at none other than Jersey City College. I used something else but modified the surveillance footage to show what I wanted to show with just editing. I called it “involuntary video” in early ninetees as my suspicions ala Philip K Dicj was already in development. This was done in a retail establishment where some noticed what people buy. The nascent dark side of public recording that can be processed to represent whatever you wanted express. This was my critique but knew it would likely be used nefariously
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Print out the route from Mapquest!
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Of course you do, Mark. Because you're so much better than the rest of us.
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My first computer, via work
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I still have a checkbook. My landlord is old school.
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Waterbeds were great until they sprung a leak.
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20/20 for me
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The Maine Atlas and Gazetteer definitely earns some respect in Maine.
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Damn, everything but the aol email and the waterbed. And I'm a millenial?
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We had 10 inch floppies. 12? Via Sun Word Processor, a biiig unit. 1984,5?
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I had to cancel a check recently - and the bank didn't charge!
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Loved the last LCD!
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Right! 22- read a zine
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Lucky you, MarciB. I had to stop payment on a check that never reached my landlord (I no longer use that mail box!) and that was $35
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I don't know that Sun made a word processor. Was it a Wang?
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First time I took acid, age 15, I was hanging out on a waterbed with my neighbor at her friend's place with a bunch of pple I hardly knew. It was one of the funnest nights of my youth
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Omg!! I’ve opened Apple product instructions that read “go to this website if you want them.” FUCK THAT.
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19 out of 20, coz I had Juno instead of AOL. I have paper maps in my car and several other bits of yestertech.
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When you throw out an LCD, you have to empty a physical wastebasket!
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Great show! I was born late December 63, so I’m 20/20 too
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Don’t know. Maybe it cost $30,000
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Are there people now who don't even possess checkbooks?
Just recently, I had to arrange an electronic funds transfer and the sending institution absolutely insisted on a scan of a cancelled paper check for the destination account(!)
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It was all crazy expensive back then
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I am a HAM operator, our national group the ARRL has largely become a publishing house, they recently cancelled the print magazine offering as an option for an additional $40 a year. And I've purchased too many of their books that reference extra online material in nearly every chapter. That's not why I buy printed books
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Kat in the chat @6:44
I’m still working through a box of 300 checks that I paid for about five years ago… On principle alone, I will find a way to use every one of those checks!
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When the smart toilet is hacked who will want that information
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I briefly used the free aol that came with the computer
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Germanium @6:48
The people debated, buy ten (?) PCs or the one Sun
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Haha, I think I'm doing the same thing, Mike.
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Acoustic coupler that you stuff the handset into as opposed to plugging into a phone line gets extra points. I had those, and a TI Silent 700 which was a porrable thermal printing terminal with an acoustic coupler modem built in! I mean this was literal scrolling! Your printout looked like the Torah!
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Good job Ken
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Password managers!
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do you remember to log out of Gmail, Staysh?
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vg! I left my job 2014 and took the acoustic coupler! The rubber is prob degraded. I have it in corner of room. Should look at it. I’m 66
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https://xkcd.com/936/ for you who need a way to have good passwords . also substitute a misspelling in there for more fun.
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Upshot of that was years later I recommended that since other health food store I work at should show their surveillance footage as entertainment 2020) outside of their building or visible from outside with close captioning showing what people said or more to my critique what people didn’t say about cheating on their others, unsavory business deals, etc. This I feel could have prevented this gmail business model we are in now
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My NAS can have a camera plugged in it and store the footage with an app to peruse it etc.
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We use a Wyze for our rental property - but it's closed circuit and stored locally. You have the option to use their internet - but we don't. We don't record on our end...
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Plus took an amdek cm-1 in 1985(? No one used it). And my vcr / dvd is still hooked up to it. Lousy quality
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How is the most advanced AI getting at password hacking? The tools of govnmNt. & related did’nt Snowden mention about smart device being able to listen and transmit information etc while device is turned off. Was it Samsung? Their smart T.V was bugged at the factory? Or somThing
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I bought a Ubiquti camera, saves it to a drive on my Ubiquiti router, keeps everything local
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Mark and Ken are examples of PERFECT gene edited babies!
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I put eff.org stickers over the lenses on the phone and laptop
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Let’s clone some rich pedos! 🧬🙄
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no more gay babies
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Thanks, lads. The future's looking bright.
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The rule of truth here ; will "they" fix type 1 diabetes, and if so will they give the cure away for free in the sam way the man who figured out how to use pig insulin did when he discovered that ?
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I thought this idea can make them more retail attractive and backfire to people allowing reusing people’s publicity
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Thanks Mark and Staysh!
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what happened to good ole fashioned blood doping tour de frnace vampires?
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AFAIK, UniFi (Ubiquiti) cameras spool your recorded video onto purely-local storage.
A potential security/privacy downside is that UniFi provides (for your convenience, and it genuinely can be convenient) a way to view said video from outside your site, but I believe there's a way to cut off all remote access/admin for UniFi sites if you're determined enough.
And the main video repository is always on your server.
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@Ken tell Mike Shelley to kill his AI bumpers !
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thanks, Mark and Ken!
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Thanks Mark and Ken!
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I was about to say, people are coming for Michael with pitchforks
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Buy guys
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Thanks Mark! Thanks Ken!
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haha... i saw one of those robots while walking to wfmu bingo night
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Mike Sin @6:48
Rent and Qwest Diagnostics.
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AI narrators are all over youtube
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Thanks Mark and Ken
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Thanks Mark and Ken all stray safe and be well
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17 I think… thanks guys
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Thank you Mark, Ken, and Listeners!!!
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Thanks, Mark and Ken!
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Great show!
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I damn near tripped over five or six of those robots when I went to JC to see Hearty's afternoon show
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Smart Toilet! Thank you both!
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Thanks, Mark and Ken! Let's break the smart toilet
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Thanks, everyone!
