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6:10pm
Webhamster Henry:
Sounds like this is going to be a nice, scary program today!
6:10pm
Paul Szepesvary:
It's important to point out that Russia invaded Ukraine because the Big Orange Turd has a heck of a lot of trouble pointing this out, or even admitting it!
"Peace: the short period of preparation between wars" -- Ephraim Kishon
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6:12pm
Dano59:
"New York City's Last Remaining Radio Station" art on the FMU homepage is a little too on the nose
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6:12pm
VantuckyEd:
Boy do we have a huge threat now that the Trump dummies want set AI loose without restrictions. Those guys would be more than happy to use this tech on American protesters.
6:14pm
Sam:
We’re jammin’! And I hope you like jammin’ too!
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6:15pm
Ken From Hyde Park:
Russia has resorted to sending donkeys to transport weapons and supplies. I hope the AI knows not to target the creatures.
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6:15pm
ultradamno:
Most of John Oliver's new show last night was about Facebook, btw
i personally think they're both horrible. however the risk of AI being in charge of the trigger is generally seen as being a greater one for unintended consequences.
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6:24pm
ultradamno:
I saw an article title the other day that read, in effect "can AI think or is it just pretending?"....I think if it can pretend, that's just as disconcerting
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6:26pm
PaulRobeson1925:
I DON’T want to join the ARMY! I Don’T want to go to War! 🎵 I’d rather hang around Piccadilly underground AND fornicate me fucking life away! Life away! OH i don’t want a bayonet up the Arse hole! I don’t want my bullocks
Shot away! 🎵 shot away! I’d rather stay in NEW YORK CITY! In merry merry NEW YOrk cITY AND fornicate me F*** life away! Life away
6:28pm
Fredericks:
Is it just me or did Daniel imply that AI attaining consciousness is inevitable?
6:29pm
Sam:
You’ll never truly know if or when AI becomes conscious, that’s the creepy part. How would you ever know for sure?
I like the old ways. Arming primates, throwing plague victims over the wall at the enemy... the Pentagon has been looking at ways to use insects ("assassin bugs") as weapons since 1998. - per Stanford prof Adrienne Mayor.
6:44pm
MarciB:
What's old is new again I guess. This show is bringing flashbacks to my childhood- 3 Mile Island, learning about MAD in high school, the Cold War etc. We just don't learn. And of course, the film War Games.
6:45pm
Listener Robert:
Oh, THAT kind of flash. My assumption had been that "Flash Wars" referred to some YouTube video in Flash animation making fun of "Star Wars".
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6:48pm
Ken From Hyde Park:
What would stop some tech-savvy bad guy from putting together an autonomous drone bomb in his basement and letting it loose on innocent people?
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6:53pm
cosmic matrix:
although i did just hear the last bit of it. will listen in the archives.
6:54pm
paddy:
Footage of drones hunting men and dropping grenades is horrific. I think any good human would be against them for anything other than reconnaissance.
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6:59pm
Webhamster Henry:
Moreover (Freed Of Every Flaw) by Jennifer Walshe & Wobbly is an album up from their Cafe Oto show that has a few pieces that could be played on this show.
Listener comments!
: Mark! Techtonmongers!
Handy Haversack: Mark! All!
Bas NL: Hi Mark! Organic intelligentsia!
Deano de los Muertos: Hi Mark and peeps
MarciB: Hello from NYC!
Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Mark and target audience! This week in Bumper Stickers You'd Rather Not See: Microsoft is my Copilot!
PaulRobeson1925: Morningggggggg
Hugo (NL): Hi all!
PaulRobeson1925: Genuine peace and a loving society is a great topic for anyday of the week
David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids here gathered.
chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
PaulRobeson1925: & peace is much more than the opposite war. & peace is A concept less clearly defined than is war
Will thee SG OCNY: Good evening Mark Hurst and all!!!
Webhamster Henry: Sounds like this is going to be a nice, scary program today!
Paul Szepesvary: It's important to point out that Russia invaded Ukraine because the Big Orange Turd has a heck of a lot of trouble pointing this out, or even admitting it!
Handy Haversack:
↳ David (in London) @6:05
David! We are come home from Runza Central South, where you were spoken of with great regard.PaulRobeson1925:
↳ PaulRobeson1925 @6:07
MoRe *than the opposite of war.Iraq…where to begin?
Spikey BXL: Hello Mark, luddites
Webhamster Henry:
↳ PaulRobeson1925 @6:07
"Peace: the short period of preparation between wars" -- Ephraim KishonDano59: "New York City's Last Remaining Radio Station" art on the FMU homepage is a little too on the nose
VantuckyEd: Boy do we have a huge threat now that the Trump dummies want set AI loose without restrictions. Those guys would be more than happy to use this tech on American protesters.
Sam: We’re jammin’! And I hope you like jammin’ too!
Ken From Hyde Park: Russia has resorted to sending donkeys to transport weapons and supplies. I hope the AI knows not to target the creatures.
ultradamno: Most of John Oliver's new show last night was about Facebook, btw
Webhamster Henry: Speaking of facial recognition, Clearview's CEO has resigned. techcrunch.com...
zachary:
↳ Song: "Interview with Daniel Wunderer"
That sounded like Gus Bodenheim for a moment in the beginning.Spikey BXL: Today marks 3 years of the war of aggression on Ukraine.
🇺🇦Слава Україні! Героям слава!🇺🇦
chris in the redwoods: hi, Mark and all.
IDF also using autonomous weapons in Gaza. :(
ultradamno: Sly weasel and weapon systems, a good combination
zachary:
↳ Song: "Interview with Daniel Wunderer"
It's the stock market computers being applied to physical war instead of just economical.mennlinn r: sure the narrator is ai
Sam:
↳ ultradamno @6:18
What’s worse, a drone accidentally bombing civilians, or a prime minister doing it intentionally?Sam: Sorry I was replying to Chris
hectic: this is techtic signing on!
ultradamno:
↳ Sam @6:19
I don't see how that logically follows off my jokechris in the redwoods:
↳ Sam @6:20
i personally think they're both horrible. however the risk of AI being in charge of the trigger is generally seen as being a greater one for unintended consequences.ultradamno:
↳ Sam @6:20
OK, got it.ultradamno: I saw an article title the other day that read, in effect "can AI think or is it just pretending?"....I think if it can pretend, that's just as disconcerting
PaulRobeson1925: I DON’T want to join the ARMY! I Don’T want to go to War! 🎵 I’d rather hang around Piccadilly underground AND fornicate me fucking life away! Life away! OH i don’t want a bayonet up the Arse hole! I don’t want my bullocks
Shot away! 🎵 shot away! I’d rather stay in NEW YORK CITY! In merry merry NEW YOrk cITY AND fornicate me F*** life away! Life away
Fredericks: Is it just me or did Daniel imply that AI attaining consciousness is inevitable?
Sam: You’ll never truly know if or when AI becomes conscious, that’s the creepy part. How would you ever know for sure?
Mark Hurst:
↳ Fredericks @6:28
I think Daniel is saying that autonomous drones are coming - "it just a software update" - not about consciousnessBas NL: In relation with warfare, why not call the hardware Artificial Stupidity?
Ken From Hyde Park: Some video recordings from Ukraine. www.reddit.com... (Some are not safe for work.)
hectic:
↳ PaulRobeson1925 @6:26
i hate the army and i hate the RAF! i don't wanna go fighting in the tropical heat!PaulRobeson1925: War does war exist? In such an age as ours?
cosmic matrix: Will people need pulsed-EMF weapons against these drones, I wonder? Just popped in. This is terrifying.
herb.nyc: Hola. I watched the docu at Monty hall. Left the bldg in a very worried state. And now, déjà vu
Spikey BXL: Light side of the Moon
PaulRobeson1925:
↳ PaulRobeson1925 @6:34
The military and police function to protect private property? As in South America and the American southOr is it something else
Sam: The real hope of Ai should be to stop wars, by bypassing the illogical human emotions that lead to them.
newton: how can he sleep at night?
ultradamno:
↳ Song: "Mark's intro"
Do you have to choose 'select all' to get a poisoned smoothie?Sam: Any logical computer with good information would conclude that wars are never worth fighting.
Dano59:
↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:15
I like the old ways. Arming primates, throwing plague victims over the wall at the enemy... the Pentagon has been looking at ways to use insects ("assassin bugs") as weapons since 1998. - per Stanford prof Adrienne Mayor.cosmic matrix:
↳ Sam @6:38
Right? Theoretically it could help us save our own collective ass!newton: how does an individual watch this film?
Sam:
↳ cosmic matrix @6:40
Remember the movie War Games? The computer concluded: “The only way to win is not to play.”joe mulligan: SHALL WE PLAY A GAME? (1983 vocoder movie voice)
chresti: AI=IA- In Accuracy
MarciB: What's old is new again I guess. This show is bringing flashbacks to my childhood- 3 Mile Island, learning about MAD in high school, the Cold War etc. We just don't learn. And of course, the film War Games.
Listener Robert: Oh, THAT kind of flash. My assumption had been that "Flash Wars" referred to some YouTube video in Flash animation making fun of "Star Wars".
Webhamster Henry: speaking of robodogs www.theverge.com...
joe mulligan:
↳ MarciB @6:44
100%. It's insanecosmic matrix:
↳ Sam @6:43
I need to see that movie again. I don’t remember that part.MarciB:
↳ newton @6:38
That's what I'm wondering too!MarciB:
↳ Sam @6:43
I think I saw that film several times as I was convinced it was going to happen to us. Still am, sadly.hectic:
↳ Sam @6:38
that's so smart. why cant you be in charge?Ken From Hyde Park: What would stop some tech-savvy bad guy from putting together an autonomous drone bomb in his basement and letting it loose on innocent people?
PaulRobeson1925:
↳ PaulRobeson1925 @6:26
Monday I toucher her on the ankle! & 🎵Tuesday I touched her on the knee! …OH I don’t want to join the army! I don’t want to go to war…Spikey BXL: Macron tried to fact check the orange goblin today.
Sam:
↳ hectic @6:47
Heh heh. Thank you.newton:
↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:48
nothingMarciB:
↳ Spikey BXL @6:49
Poor macron, thinking Agent Orange listens to facts.PaulRobeson1925: I wonder why do we see war? Why in an age such
as ours
Deano de los Muertos: Thanks Mark!
newton: Naval Drones. I picture mosquito size drones flying out our belly buttons
disco_nap_: Excellent show as always, Mark. Thank you for all you do!
cosmic matrix: great interview, mark!
cosmic matrix: although i did just hear the last bit of it. will listen in the archives.
paddy: Footage of drones hunting men and dropping grenades is horrific. I think any good human would be against them for anything other than reconnaissance.
Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark, Daniel.
PaulRobeson1925:
↳ PaulRobeson1925 @6:50
& what is we want. We know we do not want war. So how do we bring about a loving society?cosmic matrix: what wild times.
Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Daniel!
morphe': Thanks Mark and all ...
VantuckyEd: True horror. Like I said these villians will use them on Americans without reservations.
MarciB: Mark, you mean current occupants - plural. There are two monsters, alas. Supported by many more,
Spikey BXL: It is beyond words. 🇺🇦Слава Україні! Героям слава!🇺🇦
Thanks Mark and Daniel
chresti: Thanks Mark and Daniel!
Sam: Thanks Mark!
Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark & Daniel. What's the Techtonic marathon premium, a doomsday clock? Heh.
PaulRobeson1925:
↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:57
A SAFER alternative. Perhaps?Thank you Mark & WFMU & Dan
bleubombersune: Mark thanks for the info all stay safe and be well
?: Thank you for this show, all your work, and your all-too-true comments about the state of our politics. Thank you!
newton:
↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:57
iodine pillschresti: As long as you play this at the end I'll maybe be able to sleep
egould: Thanks Mark.
Ken From Hyde Park:
↳ newton @6:58
I need a suit of tinfoil body armor.PaulRobeson1925:
↳ PaulRobeson1925 @6:57
Not in the German sense of the word - make safe. I mean genuine peace, babyBring about peace rather than away from horror
Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone - be well.
chris in the redwoods: thanks, Mark!
chresti: After I finish dancing
Webhamster Henry: Moreover (Freed Of Every Flaw) by Jennifer Walshe & Wobbly is an album up from their Cafe Oto show that has a few pieces that could be played on this show.
Will thee SG OCNY: Thank you Mark Hurst!!!
joe_rosevear: Well, that was a grim interview!
Thank you, Mark and Daniel
jbrudolf: "The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace"
https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/the-war-in-ukraine-was-provoked-and-why-that-matters-if-we-want-peace