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Techtonic with Mark Hurst | WFMU

Dystopia update: good news edition: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Janet Vertesi, founder of the Opt Out Project: Techtonic with Mark Hurst A visit to Repair Cafe El Barrio: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 2 w/cohost Jesse Jarnow: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 1 w/cohost station manager Ken Freedman: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Celebrating 400 episodes of Techtonic: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Chris Gilliard on Amazon’s admission that Ring spies on us: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Peter Dear ("The World As We Know It") and how we interpret AI: Techtonic with Mark Hurst AI is spreading where it doesn't belong: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Peter Schmidt on the book "Attensity" by the Friends of Attention: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Paul Bradley Carr, author, "The Confessions": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Lora Kolodny from CNBC on Grok's sexualized images: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ken Freedman and Mark discuss the year ahead: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Tim Wu, author, "The Age of Extraction": Techtonic with Mark Hurst The Ghost of Christmas Tech Anxieties - Sara Clemens and Stu Horvath fill in, with guest Adam Allsuch Boardman: Techtonic with Mark Hurst The first annual Creepy Awards: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Noah McCormack from The Baffler: "We used to read things in this country": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Amateur radio is a superpower: Thomas Witherspoon: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Citizens are being forced to pay for Big Tech data centers, feat. Pat Garofalo: Techtonic with Mark Hurst How low can the tech oligarchs go?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Paul Mozur on the spread of data centers: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Aram Sinnreich, co-author, "The Secret Life of Data": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Widening inequality and Big Tech surveillance, feat. Dan Currell: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Filmmaker Amanda Hanna-McLeer on the Luddite renaissance: Techtonic with Mark Hurst The protest against smartphones, with Logan Lane: Techtonic with Mark Hurst AI and surveillance keep spreading: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Megan Greenwell, author, "Bad Company: Private Equity and the Death of the American Dream": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Glenn Adamson, author, "A Century of Tomorrows": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Joseph Weizenbaum warned us about AI 50 years ago (feat. Faine Greenwood): Techtonic with Mark Hurst Milestones for Big Tech... and Techtonic: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Cory Doctorow, author and journalist: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Webb Keane, author, "Animals, Robots, Gods": Techtonic with Mark Hurst If/Then/Else - Sara Clemens and Stu Horvath fill in, with guest Brendan Keogh: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Adam Becker, author, "More Everything Forever": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Three emerging dystopias: money, water, and truth: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Duncan Moench on "soylent screens" and producerism: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ed Park, author, "An Oral History of Atlantis": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Daniel Solove, author, "On Privacy and Technology": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Burn Hollywood Burn - Will AI save the movies? Dan Morfitt fills in with guest John Ashbrook: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Compulsory surveillance and other threats: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Lori Emerson, author, "Other Networks": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Unveiling our new theme song by Kirk Pearson, and Big Tech alternatives: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Matt Warwick fills in for Techtonic with Co-Host HurstBot: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Emily M. Bender and Alex Hanna, authors, "The AI Con": Techtonic with Mark Hurst David Greenwood, author, "The Cloud Intern": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Surveillance scholar Chris Gilliard on Facebook's spy glasses: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Discussing "Careless People" by Facebook whistleblower Sarah Wynn-Williams: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Sybil Derrible, author, "The Infrastructure Book": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Dan Morfitt and Mark Hurst discuss dystopian movies: Techtonic with Mark Hurst The Defunding of Public Radio with Jesse Walker, Uri Berliner and Sue Matters: Techtonic with Mark Hurst John Warner, author, "More Than Words": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Sue-Lin Wong and online scams: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Emergency surveillance update: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Liz Pelly, author, "Mood Machine": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ben Snyder, author, "Spy Plane": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 2 w/cohost Matt Warwick: Techtonic with Mark Hurst AI and the future of war – with "Flash Wars" director Daniel Wunderer: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Nick Couldry, author, "The Space of the World": Techtonic with Mark Hurst August Lamm: you don't need a smartphone: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Supervillains in tech – with Greg Epstein, Chris Gilliard, and Jim Starlin: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Welcome to the oligarchy: on Big Tech's government takeover: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Kirk Pearson, author, "Electronic Music From Scratch": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ken Freedman and Mark Hurst listen to AI: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Andrew Smith, author, "Devil in the Stack": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Our year of surveillance: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Arvind Narayanan, author, "AI Snake Oil": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Nicole Kobie, author, "The Long History of the Future": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Technology we're thankful for, from listeners: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Astronomer Samantha Lawler on Musk's space junk: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Guest host Station Mgr Ken interviews David Suisman on music and the military: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Dystopia update: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Members of the Luddite Club: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Christopher Brown, author, "A Natural History of Empty Lots": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Yaroslav Trofimov, author, "Our Enemies Will Vanish": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Silkie Carlo, director, Big Brother Watch: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Tim Schwab, author, "The Bill Gates Problem": Techtonic with Mark Hurst What if no one wants AI?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Helen Phillips, author, "HUM": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Even more devices are spying on you: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Carl Öhman, author, "The Afterlife of Data": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Guest host Alan on Rancho Mastatal : Techtonic with Mark Hurst Paula Bialski, author, "Middle Tech": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Google antitrust decision party: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Jon Leidecker, aka Wobbly, on Negativland and fair use: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Tech and the sandwich generation: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Guest host Brian D. on disinformation with Kirsten Eddy and Alex Mahadevan: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Generative AI and the "cesspool internet" – with Jason Koebler: Techtonic with Mark Hurst How it started, how it's going: revisiting the warnings of the past: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Carissa Véliz on digital ethics: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Byron Tau, author, "Means of Control": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Listener questions: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Mark Schatzker and "Food, Inc. 2": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Matt Warwick guest hosts Techtonic: What's the best robot?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst We should all switch to Linux: Techtonic with Mark Hurst What's eating Google?: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Chris Gilliard on what AI is really for: Techtonic with Mark Hurst "Data Grab" by Ulises Mejias and Nick Couldry: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Michael Shelley on AI-generated music: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Eve Herold, author, "Robots and the People Who Love Them": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Richard Polt, author, "The Typewriter Revolution": Techtonic with Mark Hurst
Evan Selinger and Albert Fox Cahn, authors, "Move Slow and Upgrade": Techtonic with Mark Hurst
ultradamno · 2026-04-07 · via Techtonic with Mark Hurst | WFMU

Listener comments!

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 5:54pm
: Mark! Techtortoises!   6:01pm
David (in London): Evening Mark and all Technoids. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
Bas NL: Hi Mark! All! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
Krüll Sagan: we're goin' round the moon, right freakin' now! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
DjLorraine: Hi. "Everybody's got to slow down" was a lyric i heard recently Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Hello Mark and everyone! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
Webhamster Henry: Hi Friends! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
Ironside: Hey everyone! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:05pm
Webhamster Henry: This fix contains bug fixes and performance improvements. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:12pm
Mark Hurst: Hi ultra, DiL, Bas, Krüll, DjL, Peter, webham, Ironside! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:17pm
Will thee SG OCNY: Good evening Mark Hurst and all!!! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:18pm
Handy Haversack: Mark and the Techyons!

Don't believe the hype!

Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
Mark Hurst: Hi WtSG! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
Greg from ZONE 5: My first thought when I saw the Metaverse was "This seems like a terrible idea. But what do I know?" Turns out I know something! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Greg from ZONE 5 @6:20

Zuck could have paid you $79 billion dollars for that thought and still saved himself a billion dollars! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
Greg from ZONE 5:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:21

I could really use 79 billion dollars! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Greg from ZONE 5 @6:22

That would make the station goal pretty quick! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
ultradamno: Well, I guess if you need a machine for empathy Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ ultradamno @6:22

exactly Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Good evening, Mark and techless wonders! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:23

Hi KfHP! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
Handy Haversack: Also, it's almost sleepy time here in Scotland, but I am Techtonic persevering. I wore my Techtonic Greg shirt the other day and tried to pointedly point at it when its behavior was being mirrored ... but, you know. O tempora. O mores. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
Webhamster Henry: Hey! Buy my NFT! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:25

Thanks for staying up late! Keep pointing out the Greg drawing... Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Greg from ZONE 5:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:22

We'd be solvent for the next 40,000 years! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Webhamster Henry: I was an early developer of 3d Interfaces on an SGI Indigo machine and it was useless even then, not because of the quality of the rendering but of the metaphor itself.   6:28pm
Noah: Just googled “digital tulip” and there is a Reddit thread of bitcoin ppl getting mad about that phrase lol Avatar 🤖 6:30pm
herb.nyc: Thx for showing us the real story behind metaverse and cryptocurrency. For latter, ive posted this here and elsewhere-

From wnyc, a guest of Brian Lehrer said (paraphrased) this about cryptocurrency—
It's a currency *and* an asset. But crypto acts w the stock market and you don't want currency acting like that

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
Deano de los Muertos: Evening, Mark Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
Mark Hurst: Hi Deano, hi herb! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
Mark Hurst: And hi Noah   6:42pm
Noah: Evening!   6:43pm
ledzeppelinsucks: It is illegal for landlords to spy on tenants with cams.   6:44pm
Noah: walking down the street and hearing a ring going off and saying “recording in progress” is so off putting Avatar 6:48pm
High_Quality_Fun: Are they seriously saying that security cameras do not have any crime deterrent effect? Speaking as a criminal, I definitely avoid security cameras Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
Bas NL: At work we installed a camera when tools kept disappearing.. The person was caugth and spend time in jail. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
chresti: Hi Mark and markers!   6:53pm
ben & Reba: Thanks Mark, move slow & upgrade feels like a wise pace Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
Handy Haversack: Thanks, Mark! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
DjLorraine: I hope Greg from ZONE 5 receives 79 billion dollars and soon.   6:55pm
Noah: Jesus… Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Bas NL: Denovation.   6:56pm
Danny: Holey Moley, epic fail! Avatar 6:58pm
High_Quality_Fun:

↳ Bas NL @6:51

yup, I only steal tools when they aren't any cameras Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Evan and Albert! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Ironside: Thank you for a great, informative interview Mark!! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
chresti: Thanks Mark! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
bleubombersune: Thanks Mark All stray safe and be well Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
egould: Thanks Mark, Evan and Albert! Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!   8:49pm
?: I love the opportunistic hermit crab eyeing the shell on the cover