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Hi Mark and techtonicians!
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Mark! Techtontinels!
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Evening Mark and all Technoids.
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good evening Mark & techtonic plates
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hooray for Mark and techtonians!
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hello, all.
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I have to pee
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hey everyone!
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Ignorance is bliss
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my friends don't care.
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gabriel @6:05
Niether do most of mine- they either shrug or say I'm too far left or paranoid and to stop being so negative etc.
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Google “workday” is becoming the payroll system for the city of Los Angeles , that we’re forced to use
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Yes! We should be made aware! But I can’t handle the truth!
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Techtonic and Gin
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same, marci. same same same. flippin sux.
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Lying sack of crap, Clapper.
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that's so messed up, chresti.
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Hellos Mark and all!
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Hi Surveilees!
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Hi chresti, ultra, DiL, newton, DjL, chris_itr, gabriel, DPB, Marci, herb, Teknishun, Dean, Bas, Webham! Appreciate all of you joining this evening.
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gabriel @6:05
It's frustrating bc they will wait until its too late. They are better at reacting then planning.
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my dad worked for the nsa. he raised me paranoid af.
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clap on, clap off, the clapper
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DraculasPissBoy @6:05
Only for the ignorant, for the rest of u,s it is annoying at the least.
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Hey Mark and everyone!
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For a stark illustration of how information was once stored and organized versus the same c.2000, compare Fritz Machlup's 1962 book, The production and distribution of knowledge in the United States with Hal Varian & Peter Lyman's How much information?
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Hi Tim!
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Hi all, I'm late. thinking now of Shoshana Zuboff and renewing my commitment to resume that fantastic book
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A bit late to the show. Hello Mark and everyone.
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You know, surveillance was normalized for many of us when we were little kids. You know, Santa Claus.
"He sees you when you're sleeping
He knows when you're awake
He knows if you've been bad or good
So be good for goodness sake!"
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Dean @6:17
"Elf on the shelf" has further normalized surveillance. Some of them now actually have cameras installed.
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I can't pee with zuckerberg staring at my junk
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Mark Hurst @6:19
...and dead relatives.
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Mark Hurst @6:19
Fellas, fellas, let’s not forget the thousands of years of an omniscient god of your choice.
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And the folks I know who *are* concerned about privacy mostly say "hey, at least we're not China!" as if that makes it all ok.
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I'm a heavy strava user, and make everything private.. it's been known that people will see your posts and go rob your house after seeing you have pricey bikes
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Hi, all! I'm late.
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"Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"
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We might be willing to tolerate the exhaustive collection of our movements if we were able to access the data. "Where did I put my wallet?"
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MarciB @6:21
Ugh.
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This was Glenn Greenwald's argument for the last couple decades, and it remains completely valid. It's not a risk of embarrassment. It's a risk of a bad actor having information that you want secured, because it affords access to finances, accounts, and such.
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the more data points, the more valuable the inferences
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By the way, the new Orphan Black spinoff series appears to have moved from clones to 3D printed robot clones.
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Webhamster Henry @6:09
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Dean @6:27
This is exactly what I tell anyone who'll listen...but the response I usually get is "that's a rarity" or a shrug. and a "worry about that if it happens" etc
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mackeral @6:28
..and they'll never share the inferences with you. that's the real value that they're monetizing.
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That's nuts, MarciB! Losing a credit card is not a rarity, and it's a huge inconvenience when it happens.
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And then there are the state actions Tau is talking about.
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ultradamno @6:28
...maybe animated simulacrums more than robot.
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Better turn Wi-Fi off my bong.
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keep that bong analog!
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gabriel @6:32
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Oops. I will check my apps. I normally turn off the option to reveal my location. OK, I'm good. Two apps can use my location, but only while in use.
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if a cop makes the dog bark, you lose your fourth amendment rights also
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my friend was talking to his wife about me the other day and his phone fed him my imdb info courtesy of Meta AI
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I read a blog post about a filmmaker who learned her bf was going to propose to her b/c diamond rings and wedding ads started appearing in her IG feed.
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Siri has entered the chat
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Just another argument in favor of rotating your tires...with your neighbors'.
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Dean @6:39
Brilliant
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Dean @6:39
Haha Community defeats the robots. Next on Geraldo!
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hey now. batteries die in those. you don't have to have the sensors replaced when you get new tires. you may have a low pressure light on your dash but if you check your air pressure with a guage you'll be fine. don't think you can fail an inspection if the tire light is on.
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So which spy is my car insurance most likely using?
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A-ha! I was just going to ask how it TPMS identified specific cars.
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And here I thought it was a good thing in about our 2013 Mini ... letting us know to put air into the tires...well at least we have a CD player on our dash, not a touch screen.
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Even my 1999 Ford van is vulnerable? I don't think so.
I remember an early electric car being hijacked through the tires.
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Fredericks @6:41
Are your tires from 1999?
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whaaaa that is fecked up!!!
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tim @6:41
the sensors have to be calibrated to the car they are installed on. i guess it could broadcast the body control module info.
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TPMS light has been on in my 2011 civic since I acquired it 5 yrs. ago.
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I upload nudes via TPMS
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listener 126464 @6:43
fight the power!
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Our old friend Kashmir Hill
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Steal yr face!
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When robots make their own sexbots
mastodon.social...
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an article on the wifi/bluetooth stuff Byron talked about:
www.notus.org...
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hey siri, when's the apocalypse?
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DraculasPissBoy @6:43
Did they appear pneumatic?
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dale @6:42
Got it. So I’m guessing that tires bought and installed at TireTown, the TPMS isn’t linked to the car. But it can be used to match the tires to the car through surveillance.
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dale @6:40
quick fix which often works on many vehicles when the tire light is on.
Over fill the tires by 3-4 lbs. and drive it. It will often reset to off.
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I was just telling my neice’s husband of the tire pressure thing. And I said “this doesn’t sound right, but…”. But it’s right!
The show of Dave Mandl, get info at Fandango
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ohh thank you!
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traven @6:47
Finally dropped the baby fat
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Just tuning in and gettin off work
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cool. i would just put a piece of tape over the light.
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The sensor is mounted to the rim, the tire remains just a tire.
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Going to get in the shower
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dale @6:50
That was my second choice :0
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Those sniffers are looking for the China white hookup
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What happens when you refill at proper PSI?
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Serendipitous Surveillance: I happened past the radio station just as our host was arriving, and he graciously allowed me to grab a couple of snaps since the light was so great today.
www.flickr.com...
www.flickr.com...
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TPMS is even worse, since its additional effect is to make it impossible for independent mechanics to fix a flat, since the TPMS system will not reset without a specific computer code being issued.
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I’m convinced this is the REAL reason they legalized weed. So the millions of users would stop being paranoid about surveillance and start to accept it.
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i think a lot of tire shops will only mount new tires with new sensors because of liability issues if you have a blowout and have a crack up.
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Smart shower*
You bathed 39 minutes slower this week than last week. You may need a doctor- here is a list of Amazon approved doctors and try Thorazine?
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im with you, sam. and to sell doritos.
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tim @6:51
from a lower pressure? or do you mean after you overfill?
Mine are simple bluetooth devices that pair with the cars ecm.
Battery in device on the rime goes dead it can be replaced but tire shops would rather charge you for a whole new transmitter & valve stem assy.
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Eugene R @6:52
That is not true fellas.....
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My damn detachable penis. Gotta turn off it’s Bluetooth setting
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and my surveillance phone is listening to Mark talk about our current surveillance state. Sigh.
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Edward Snowden
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Not only can we but try and stop us
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tpms gave my wife a warning a couple times, one was a screw in the tire. glad she paid attention and called me, came with an inflator and got her home so i could remove the wheel and get the tire plugged.
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Here’s another way to work around vehicular surveillance. If you are able to, walk, bike, skateboard, or take public transit to get where you’re going.
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Steve Del Sol @6:54
my hondas, nor my hyundais need a code to reset.
Dealership had a friends BMW convinced she needed to bring it in for a "reset" at $150 a pop.
I told her try the overfilling method..no more problems
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The Television is smart. The shower is smart. The can is smart. I flush twice and it recommends a brain doctor?
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Thanks Mark! Thanks Byron!
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Thanks Mark!
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Yes, the truth. Thx for telling us, and thx to Byron Tau.
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Grazie Mark
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PaulRobeson1924 @6:57
Sounds confused over which end is up :)
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Thanks Mark
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And excommunicate X!
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thanks mark! not sure i feel any better tho... let me check. nope, definitely worse.
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Its kindg we are being surveilled of like sayin' by our fuel gauge....
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Thanks Mark
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No.
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Well, it doesn't sound good!
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90.1FM has come back to life..Yea!!!!
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Thanks Mark and Byron for the thoughtful discussion.
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But thanks for the bad news!
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Thanks, everyone!
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Thank you for the freedom of expression!
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Oh boy my life gets complicated now, but I like it, yes I do!!!!
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Jeff Moore @6:52
Mark looks exactly the same in both pictures.
