Listener comments!

🤖 ♥ 5:43pm
: Mark! Techtonialists! 🤖 ♥ 5:54pm
Handy Haversack: Hello, Mark and the Techyons! ♥ 6:01pm
PaulRobeson1925: Hello ♥ 6:01pm
StringOFperils: Nuclear reactor on the moon. Stat! ASAP. C'mon! 🤖 ♥ 6:01pm
Spikey BXL: Hello Mark, luddites ♥ 6:02pm
PaulRobeson1925:

↳ StringOFperils @6:01

Moon, moon, moon. We will get you. Sooon soooon Sooooon 🤖 ♥ 6:02pm
chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians! 🤖 ♥ 6:03pm
Bas NL: Hi Mark! Hi all! I'd love me some more everything forever! 🤖 ♥ 6:03pm
Sara Clemens: Hello Mark and fellow Techtonics with lime!   6:03pm
Cy: oops ♥ 6:03pm
Peter from Saranac Lake NY: Mark, techies.... ♥ 6:04pm
Cooh John: Hi Mark and techtonicians. Liking the theme song. 🤖 ♥ 6:05pm
Deano de los Muertos: Wazzap Mark and folks ♥ 6:06pm
Cooh John: Growth, technology, AI, etc. will not save us. Humanity will. Just sayin'. Isn't uncontrolled growth called cancer? 🤖 ♥ 6:07pm
chresti: Send 'em out there and leave 'em! 🤖 ♥ 6:07pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Mark and computation emancipation proclamation. 🤖 ♥ 6:07pm
ultradamno: I feel like NASA through down a gauntlet to SpaceX: 'nice nuclear reactor you aren't building on Mars' ♥ 6:07pm
StringOFperils: Musk. Gets 29 billion in TESLA stock handed to him by the board. 29 billion. Meanwhile...how many kids starved to death while I typed this? What IS growth? 🤖 ♥ 6:07pm
DjLorraine: Hi   6:08pm
Black Window: Hello ♥ 6:10pm
Mark Hurst: Hi ultra, Handy, PaulR, StringofPerils, Spikey, chresti, Bas, Sara, Can you, Peter, Cooh John, Deano, DjL, and Black Window - thanks for joining! ♥ 6:10pm
dale: if you can terraform the angry red planet you can certainly fix the earth for a lot less money and effort.   6:10pm
Black Window: Hi dale 🤖 ♥ 6:12pm
ultradamno: Until he has a fix for the magnetic field issue, Mars is kind of a non-starter. ♥ 6:12pm
coelacanth∅:

↳ dale @6:10

indeed. ♥ 6:12pm
Cooh John:

↳ DjLorraine @6:07

Hello DjLorraine🙋🏻‍♂️ ♥ 6:12pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ dale @6:10

Just wait until later in the interview :) 🤖 ♥ 6:13pm
DjLorraine:

↳ Cooh John @6:12

🙋 Hello Cooh John 🤖 ♥ 6:13pm
Stu Horvath: Space! Why would you want to go there? (hello Mark and Techtonicians!) ♥ 6:14pm
Cooh John:

↳ StringOFperils @6:07

How about the people Musk starved to death by cutting USAID. Sins of commission and omission.   6:14pm
Black Window: Hi, what’s this show about? ♥ 6:14pm
PaulRobeson1925: #1. Makes sense if you consider Neil Postman’s Technopoly.   6:15pm
yippie: do you think the pacific ocean is a perpetual motion machine? 🤖 ♥ 6:16pm
Sara Clemens:

↳ Stu Horvath @6:13

Hi Stu! ♥ 6:16pm
PaulRobeson1925:

↳ Stu Horvath @6:13

No restrooms in space. Not a single one. Not a single one 🤖 ♥ 6:16pm
Stu Horvath:

↳ Sara Clemens @6:16

Why hello Sara! ♥ 6:16pm
dale: can't musk and his ilk just go live in a biosphere somewhere and leave the rest of us alone? ♥ 6:16pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Sara Clemens @6:16

Hi Stu and Sara, looking forward to hearing your guest-hosted show next week! ♥ 6:17pm
StringOFperils:

↳ Cooh John @6:14

He's not a well man. Probably unfair to hold him up as a singular example of techno-religiosity. He's both less and more and stranger than average. 🤖 ♥ 6:17pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

↳ Black Window @6:14

About an hour, most weeks. ♥ 6:18pm
PaulRobeson1925: Pretty terrible place for a road trip. Space ♥ 6:18pm
StringOFperils: Mars. A death-trip now within reach. 🤖 ♥ 6:18pm
ultradamno: Why are Musk and Bezos so pro-overpopulation? (and it can't be the Mozart argument, the more people fighting for basic sustenance, the less likely that happens) fortune.com... ♥ 6:18pm
coelacanth∅: with musk and trump and all the other parasitic billionaires, it's as much about Power as the money itself. they're insecure children living their childhood fantasies at everyone's expense. 6:18pm
pocket vito: Why would you want all those goddamn people? ♥ 6:19pm
coelacanth∅:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:17

answer a stupid question with an intelligent answer, why don't you! 🤖 ♥ 6:19pm
Sara Clemens: Not to mention there will be no voyage to Mars without MASSIVE ground support here on Earth and if these jabronies think there's gonna be a whole ground crew who's cool with perishing during the heat death of this planet while simultaneously getting them to their final destination, well... lol. Lmao, even. ♥ 6:19pm
StringOFperils:

↳ ultradamno @6:18

Market potential? 🤖 ♥ 6:20pm
Deano de los Muertos:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:16

Sweet! 🕹️ ♥ 6:20pm
PaulRobeson1925: I mean, think about it. You get to space and then what? Where do you go 🤖 ♥ 6:20pm
Webhamster Henry: Hi Techtonical Friends! Ooh some Game Theory! 🤖 ♥ 6:20pm
ultradamno: They may think that, but again people have to have resources to be good consumers 6:21pm
pocket vito: It should literally be the exact opposite. Stop population growth, abolish the internet, and appreciate this amazing planet we already have. Wtf. 🤖 ♥ 6:21pm
Webhamster Henry: I can't remember if Mark has featured "A City On Mars", but check it out. www.acityonmars.com 🤖 ♥ 6:21pm
Stu Horvath:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:16

There will be substantially less math. 🤖 ♥ 6:22pm
ultradamno: ...and the damage that will do to math rock will be inestimable 🤖 ♥ 6:23pm
Sara Clemens:

↳ Stu Horvath @6:21

MAYBE. I did receive a bust of Pythagoras at my senior awards ceremony for being the "Top Math Student" in high school, so... ♥ 6:23pm
StringOFperils:

↳ ultradamno @6:20

You're right. That just leaves compulsive f***ing. Engineers really need to make stuff, even if no one needs it. ♥ 6:24pm
Hunterian:

↳ ultradamno @6:12

Cosmic rays would likely give all astronauts terminal cancer on the way there, but yes, you're absolutely right, you can't just duplicate the Van Allen belt on other planets. 🤖 ♥ 6:25pm
chris in the redwoods: folks have been ignoring the whole thou shalt not kill thing for quite some time, Mark. and hello to you.
and hello to all. 🤖 ♥ 6:25pm
ultradamno: Wait...they wouldn't become the Fantastic Four? 🤖 ♥ 6:25pm
Bas NL: Earth weighs 1,3 x 10^25 pounds. Even if we eat the entire Earth 10^50 people would weigh... not much. 🤖 ♥ 6:26pm
Webhamster Henry: Colonizing and terraforming Antarctica and the floor of the ocean are many orders of magnitude easier than space colonization, and nobody wants to do that. ♥ 6:26pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:25

welcome, chris ♥ 6:27pm
PaulRobeson1925: Little Hearty White in there! “Today I had ten hapPpies”   6:27pm
sensisio: Thanks Mark...sheesh what do we do? 🤖 ♥ 6:28pm
Stu Horvath: Starting to get into Warhammer 40k territory... ♥ 6:28pm
Cooh John: Currency options: 1. I can have a $ or you can have a $. Only one person can have the $. 2. I can have an idea and can share it with you. We both have and use the idea. 3. I can show you an act of kindness and an observer can have a benefit. 3 parties benefit. Which currency should we use? ♥ 6:28pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ sensisio @6:27

Hi sensisio. First step, I think, is to gain awareness and spread the word...   6:28pm
malĥerbo (nl): Hi Mark, Alan and ‘Oniks ♥ 6:29pm
Mark Hurst: welkom, malĥerbo ♥ 6:29pm
Hunterian:

↳ Webhamster Henry @6:26

Bingo. If they were serious, that's what they'd be talking about: developing a much warmer place that isn't made of poison and that has an atmosphere with oxygen in it. But…they're not serious. ♥ 6:29pm
PaulRobeson1925: These Long termists gotta get out more 🤖 ♥ 6:29pm
Sara Clemens:

↳ Stu Horvath @6:28

Not everything's a game, Stu! 🤖 ♥ 6:30pm
ultradamno: With Musk, it really does seem like a lot of 'what I thought was wicked cool at 13' ♥ 6:30pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Sara Clemens @6:29

well... I often relate things to nethack. 🤖 ♥ 6:30pm
Handy Haversack: KSR's Aurora is a great look at what a pipedream colonizing the galaxy is. ♥ 6:30pm
StringOFperils: They're gonna run out of time anyway. Their own power-grabs are creating such corruption and ultra-violence and total madness will cut them off at the knees before they get anywhere. Also, now that science is becoming illegal and major universities are being hobbled, engineering will be building soap-box racers, not starships. 6:30pm
pocket vito:

↳ Hunterian @6:29

And obviously they don’t actually want to make things better for humanity. They hate people, they hate beauty, and they hate everything that makes life worth living. 🤖 ♥ 6:31pm
Webhamster Henry: The rampant innumeracy of decision makers and voters is really driving some insane priorities. ♥ 6:31pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:30

good pointer ♥ 6:32pm
Cooh John:

↳ StringOFperils @6:17

Point taken but he did it representing me, you, and the USA. ♥ 6:32pm
Hunterian: "but other than that, Adam…" Exactly! 🤖 ♥ 6:33pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:31

I wonder sometimes if it was a corrective to the Mars Trilogy, but those planets are still settled in it. ♥ 6:33pm
PaulRobeson1925: “Hey let’s go to Mars” Sure, but no air and get this, no toilets 🤖 ♥ 6:33pm
Webhamster Henry: Here's an exercise: what is 1 billion? airoutslowly.blogspot.com...
There's also an audio version of it. 🤖 ♥ 6:33pm
Mennlinn Rebarts: I am now part of "The Radiation Levels are Too Damn High!" party. 🤖 ♥ 6:33pm
Sara Clemens:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:30

Ok fine I guess everything's a game, good news for us gamers 🤖 ♥ 6:33pm
ultradamno: ...and sharks, I think there were sharks then, they do pre-date trees ♥ 6:34pm
dale: 'goodnight oppy' shows a great visualization of the mars surface. 6:34pm
pocket vito: First the artists will move to Mars because it’s cheap, then the coffee places will come, then the wine bars, and suddenly it will be the hippest place to live. ♥ 6:34pm
PaulRobeson1925: Great comparison 🤖 ♥ 6:35pm
ultradamno: Wait, so Matt Damon died of cancer after sciencing the shit out of gardening? ♥ 6:36pm
Folsom: The Cautionary Tales podcast had a episode about the E.A. guys, kinda nuts.   6:36pm
malĥerbo (nl): We have still much to learn about our own place. Just wanting to do something with Mars might just be the carrot to make learning about earth a reality. Because making lots of money fanning climate fear or trading co2 rights and the likes surely wont. ♥ 6:36pm
Hunterian: "There is nothing we could do to this planet that would make it a worse option than Mars." Thank you. This guy gets it.   6:36pm
Vanejsa: Great interview today, I gotta read this. ♥ 6:37pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Vanejsa @6:36

Thanks, Vanejsa - it's a great read 6:37pm
MarciB: Brian Merchant's recent Substack had a great and informative take on this nonsense - he attended some conference on AI and futurists etc.   6:37pm
Black Window: I’m hurt ♥ 6:37pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Hunterian @6:36

Yep I also appreciated that phrase! ♥ 6:38pm
Aitch: Elon never the same after he read Sirens of Titan. 6:38pm
MarciB: Also, why don't they all leave now? Just like the end of "Don't Look Up". ♥ 6:38pm
StringOFperils: The de-terra-forming of Earth is going nicely. That's been effective. 🤖 ♥ 6:39pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ MarciB @6:38

"we'll figure out the tricky bit in transit." i love this idea for them. 🤖 ♥ 6:39pm
ultradamno: I think the appeal is: a smaller planet that only the very richest people can get to. The VIP room of the solar system   ♥ 6:40pm
New Dave: we can roll up our sleeves and make a garden HERE 🤖 ♥ 6:40pm
ultradamno: Same goes for Europa, Ganymede or any other pipe dream gas giant moon 🤖 ♥ 6:40pm
Sara Clemens:

↳ ultradamno @6:39

Yeah they don't want the poors to be anywhere around them 🤖 ♥ 6:41pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ Sara Clemens @6:40

but who will open the bottles of Crystal? ♥ 6:41pm
PaulRobeson1925: Musk and his co-horts benefit from the status quo. Talking about Mars and the moon is a great way to distract the public from what we could accomplish here. And it makes a great headline. MOON. MARS. EXPLORATION. 🤖 ♥ 6:41pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Occupy marzipan! ♥ 6:41pm
Aitch:

↳ Sara Clemens @6:40

Didn't work out so well in Hitchhikers Guide 🤖 ♥ 6:41pm
ultradamno:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:41

A few lower millionaires ♥ 6:41pm
dale: ronny cox made a good career out of playing a sci-fi total dick. 'apple's way' not included. 🤖 ♥ 6:42pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ PaulRobeson1925 @6:41

MOON! MARS! SQUIRREL! 🤖 ♥ 6:42pm
Stu Horvath: Am I misremembering that the space colony in Neuromancer had an O2 tax? 🤖 ♥ 6:43pm
Sara Clemens:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:41

that's the Twilight Zone ending right there ♥ 6:43pm
dale: so much of our politics is basically determined by racists. 🤖 ♥ 6:44pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ Stu Horvath @6:42

Hey Apple TV+ is finally doing a version of Neuromancer! I hope they give it a 1984-era-idea-of-the-future style! 🤖 ♥ 6:44pm
ultradamno:

↳ dale @6:43

A group also very concerned about baby production ♥ 6:44pm
StringOFperils: What about alternate artificial intelligence? Kelly where are you now? ♥ 6:44pm
PaulRobeson1925: Adam is good on the radio 🤖 ♥ 6:45pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ Sara Clemens @6:43

lol! perfect. ♥ 6:45pm
Cooh John: Let's see if we can fix the problems at home, first. ♥ 6:45pm
Hunterian:

↳ PaulRobeson1925 @6:44

Absolutely 🤖 ♥ 6:45pm
Ken From Hyde Park: The army can use Cybertrucks for target practice. The tricky part might be figuring out which one contains EM. 🤖 ♥ 6:47pm
ultradamno: In WSB terms: become space jellyfish 🤖 ♥ 6:47pm
Webhamster Henry: A Head-in-a-jar is more feasible than living on Mars, though. 🤖 ♥ 6:47pm
Handy Haversack: I just finished Annlee Newitz'ers The Terraformers, which, yes, is a fantasy but in space. Super posthuman in trappings but also deeply about the danger of nostalgia and the creation of and use of race as a strategy to divide workers from unifying around what they actually have in common: oppression from owners.

Also, it has sentient trains, which are pretty cool. Worth a read.

🤖 ♥ 6:47pm
Bas NL: Let's try prosthetic brains. Good first start. 6:48pm
Fredericks: Musk has already made multiple promises that did not materialize. He's just another con man. ♥ 6:48pm
PaulRobeson1925: “just 22 and l don’t mind dying, whooo 🎶do you love now whoo do you love” - Mr.Morrison   6:49pm
Black Window: Yeah… 🤖 ♥ 6:49pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ Fredericks @6:48

"And it won't make one bit of difference if you answer right or wrong - when you're rich they think you really know!" -- Tevye the Milkman ♥ 6:49pm
coelacanth∅: Thanks Mark! Thanks Adam! 6:50pm
Fredericks:

↳ PaulRobeson1925 @6:48

The author is Mr. Bo Diddley. 🤖 ♥ 6:50pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Song: "Mark's comments"

Good dog. 🤖 ♥ 6:50pm
Stu Horvath: Really impressed with that whole conversation not including a single cuss word.   ♥ 6:50pm
New Dave: Truly great interview 🤖 ♥ 6:50pm
ultradamno: I think all this may just be a hangover from creating a computer that once filled a room fit into the palm of your hand...that being done fooled them into thinking anything can. 🤖 ♥ 6:50pm
chris in the redwoods: has to be one of my fav tectonic interviews. wonderful stuff. thanks, Mark and Adam, er. Dr. Becker. :) ♥ 6:50pm
PaulRobeson1925e: Shake dreams from your hair my sweet one

Adam & Mark- NM NEAR MINT +

🤖 ♥ 6:50pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Stu Horvath @6:50

Well, Mark is a skilled editor! 🤖 ♥ 6:51pm
Stu Horvath:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:50

HA ♥ 6:51pm
Cooh John: Technocrats=capitalists! ♥ 6:52pm
Tom from Stirling: Takeshi Kovacs 🤖 ♥ 6:52pm
Webhamster Henry: Live forever - some fungi are much better thtn a human genome would allow. www.sciencealert.com... ♥ 6:53pm
dale: wtf is this guy talking about!! 🤖 ♥ 6:53pm
ultradamno: Unless we're trans-ing into Silver Surfers, why bother. ♥ 6:53pm
bleubombersune: Bring on the Borg Integration the final solution 🤖 ♥ 6:54pm
Handy Haversack: Fix your hearts or die. 🤖 ♥ 6:54pm
Stu Horvath: love how these brainiacs can't string a convincing sentence together. 🤖 ♥ 6:54pm
Sara Clemens:

↳ ultradamno @6:53

I herald Galactus! ♥ 6:54pm
PaulRobeson1925e:

↳ Fredericks @6:50

It sure is. It sure is, my friend. But I am quoting another man

Good evening, Mr.Fredericks

🤖 ♥ 6:54pm
Sara Clemens:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:54

My man! ::fist bump:: ♥ 6:54pm
Folsom: Ross Douthat, I don't bother reading/listening to his stuff. ♥ 6:54pm
Tom from Stirling: Alien: Earth ♥ 6:55pm
StringOFperils: What a weird world. 🤖 ♥ 6:55pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Sara Clemens @6:54

This fucking guy. 🤖 ♥ 6:56pm
chresti: Cultish yep 🤖 ♥ 6:57pm
Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Adam! 🤖 ♥ 6:57pm
Sara Clemens: GET READY, TECHTONICIANS! ♥ 6:57pm
StringOFperils: Same old master race story. Redux. ♥ 6:57pm
bleubombersune: Are we all disposable according to the Tech Giants   6:57pm
malĥerbo (nl): Thsnks! 🤖 ♥ 6:57pm
Stu Horvath: Thank you Mark (and Dr. Becker!) ♥ 6:57pm
bleubombersune: Thanks Mark and Adam 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
chresti: Thanks Mark and Adam! 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
Deano de los Muertos: Thank you Mark and Adam! ♥ 6:58pm
StringOFperils: Thank you Mark and Adam. 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark & Adam! 🤖 ♥ 6:58pm
Webhamster Henry: Well this was fun, I hope some tech bros are listening to the Techtonic Broadcast Network!   6:59pm
Bea: Awesome interview, Mark! Thank you! ♥ 6:59pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:50

Thanks, Chris! 🤖 ♥ 7:00pm
Sara Clemens: Great show, Mark! Thank you Dr. Becker for your insights. 7:03pm
Fredericks:

↳ PaulRobeson1925e @6:54

I noticed. 🤖 ♥ 7:18pm
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