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Techtonic with Mark Hurst | WFMU

Evan Selinger and Albert Fox Cahn, authors, "Move Slow and Upgrade": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Dystopia update: good news edition: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Janet Vertesi, founder of the Opt Out Project: Techtonic with Mark Hurst A visit to Repair Cafe El Barrio: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 2 w/cohost Jesse Jarnow: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Marathon week 1 w/cohost station manager Ken Freedman: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Celebrating 400 episodes of Techtonic: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Chris Gilliard on Amazon’s admission that Ring spies on us: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Peter Dear ("The World As We Know It") and how we interpret AI: Techtonic with Mark Hurst AI is spreading where it doesn't belong: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Peter Schmidt on the book "Attensity" by the Friends of Attention: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Paul Bradley Carr, author, "The Confessions": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Lora Kolodny from CNBC on Grok's sexualized images: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Ken Freedman and Mark discuss the year ahead: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Tim Wu, author, "The Age of Extraction": Techtonic with Mark Hurst The first annual Creepy Awards: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Noah McCormack from The Baffler: "We used to read things in this country": Techtonic with Mark Hurst Amateur radio is a superpower: Thomas Witherspoon: Techtonic with Mark Hurst Citizens are being forced to pay for Big Tech data centers, feat. 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The Ghost of Christmas Tech Anxieties - Sara Clemens and Stu Horvath fill in, with guest Adam Allsuch Boardman: Techtonic with Mark Hurst
joe_rosevear · 2025-12-23 · via Techtonic with Mark Hurst | WFMU

Listener comments!

Avatar 5:59pm
: What, no techies?

Hey, Mark, I guess it's just you and me.

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
Handy Haversack: Ah, we're doing it on the Techtonic board. OK!

Sara! Stu! PCs and N-s!

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Webhamster Henry: Hi Fill-ins! Please click on the fire trucks to prove you aren't robots. 🚑🚚🚛🚒🛻🚙🚚🚒🚑🚛 Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
Bas NL: Hi Sara & Stu! The Ghost of Christmas Tech Anxieties.. nice! Avatar 6:03pm
joe_rosevear: Oh, I get it! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
Webhamster Henry: House (Hausu) is a Christmas movie. Prove Me Wrong! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
Deano de los Muertos: Hey Stu & Sara! Always a pleasant surprise 🕹️ Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
Ken From Hyde Park: Can there be a video game where you inflict increasingly embarrassing and painful difficulties on various tech oligarchs? Lots of fun for all ages! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
Handy Haversack: We watched Ghostbusters just last night! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
Bandit: Ghost stories are very much a very old Xmas tradition!! Avatar 🤖 6:04pm
herb.nyc: Ghosts? Roky erickson said “if you have ghosts, then you have everything” Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:05pm
Bas NL: Steampunk ghost stories... :) Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:05pm
Bandit: The books Tales of the Weird Stu is talking about

shop.bl.uk...

  6:06pm
Sam: Ghosts - the original surveillance state Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:04

This could be a board game as well. Cast diarrhea!   6:06pm
seedfriend: Just watched this at a screening in Kingston. So good. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Bas NL: Pre-surveillance.. when things crashed uncontrolled. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Deano de los Muertos: The craziest horror movie I’ve ever seen feature a haunted train that left the tracks to run over some peasant women in a field, chasing them through a pond and then returning to the tracks. 🚂   6:07pm
Sam: “You can tell by the shape of his skull he’s a charlatan!” Avatar 6:07pm
MIster Mark: All these journalists with their 'both sides' [air quotes] emm i rite?!? Avatar 🤖 6:08pm
herb.nyc: I heard part of THROUGHLINE show on wnyc (oh stop hissing) yest, & it focused on dickens’s a Christmas Carol. It was very good Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
Deano de los Muertos:

↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:07

Beyond the Door III Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
Webhamster Henry: What's wrong with time loops?
-- signed,
a Groundhog Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
Bandit:

↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:09

Saving this to my Letterboxd watchlist Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:07

That's dirty pool!   6:11pm
Sam: I think of ghost stories as more of a summer campfire/thunderstorm tradition than a Christmas one. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
Deano de los Muertos:

↳ Bandit @6:10

I don’t remember much, saw it on TV years ago..but I remember that Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:12pm
Handy Haversack: I think one of the craziest horror movies I ever saw was A Dark Song, and I realized last night that there's a Ghostbusters allusion in a climactic scene! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:12pm
Sara Clemens: Hello Techtonics!! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:12pm
Sara Clemens:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:12

Stu and I LOVE A Dark Song Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Sara Clemens @6:12

Such a great movie. And then at the end goes ALL THE WAY THERE. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
Stu Horvath:

↳ Sam @6:06

LOL Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
Sara Clemens:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:13

Totally. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
Count d'Al Dente: Is Adam familiar with Mark McCandiish? Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
Deano de los Muertos:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:12

en.wikipedia.org...

Hmm, haven’t heard of Dark Song. I just watched Green Knight on someone’s recommendation from the accu

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:16pm
tim: Cool conversation! I love when Techtonic and Music for Mind Control cross paths! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:16pm
StringOFperils: My mom used to get me horror stories for Christmas. I'd devour them, happy to drop out of all the surrounding holiday anxiety. The nightmares on the page were a refuge. Avatar 6:16pm
Mark T: Great topic tonight Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:17pm
Sara Clemens:

↳ StringOFperils @6:16

👏👏👏 Exactly. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:18pm
chris in the redwoods: i enjoyed the Green Knight. it was one of my fav books as a teen. tho the movie is quite a different telling. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:18pm
Handy Haversack: Yeah, M. R. James has been the subtext of this convo, definitely. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm
StringOFperils: Algernon Blackwood Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
Deano de los Muertos:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:18

I enjoyed it. Just watched Slenderman too. Gotta remember to tell Miche1e Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
Bandit:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:18

Isn't the movie closer to the Arthurian legend? Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
Sasha: Nice. Just went through two compendiums of David Tibet's favourite ghost stories. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
tim:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:18

I'm unfamiliar with MR James. Any recommendations of where to start? Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
Stu Horvath:

↳ tim @6:19

The big white ones from Strange Attractor? Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:19

yes, that makes sense to me. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ tim @6:19

There are TONS of collections. Just grab one from the liberry and dive on in! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
Stu Horvath:

↳ tim @6:19

Count Magnus is my fave! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
Sasha: @ Stu yep those ones (I presume this was directed at me?) Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:20

Also check out Arthur Machen. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
tim: Thanks for the recommendations! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
Stu Horvath:

↳ Sasha @6:21

Whoops, yea, those are great. Love the lads at SAP Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
Sasha:

↳ Stu Horvath @6:22

Me too! Was lucky enough to attend a series of seminars at their studios a few years ago. Need to do all the London's Lost Rivers walks. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:24pm
Stu Horvath: oh god those Rivers books are SO GOOD Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:24pm
Sasha: This might be of interest to DJs and listeners alike, an interesting little paper on ghost sightings and infrasound:
www.richardwiseman.com... Avatar 6:25pm
MarciB: It's fascinating that during this time, the US had its first female candidate for president, Victoria Woodhull. And she and her sister Tenne we spiritualists. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
Deano de los Muertos: the Williams Center is supposed to be haunted. I only experienced unexplained footfalls. Other former coworkers have crazier stories. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Stu Horvath:

↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:25

By WCW? Avatar 6:26pm
MarciB:

↳ MarciB @6:25

And they ended up moving to England and marrying quite well... Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Deano de los Muertos:

↳ Stu Horvath @6:26

named after him yeah, in Rutherford Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm
Sasha:

↳ MarciB @6:25

Nothing scarier to Americans than a female in charge apparentl Avatar 6:27pm
MarciB:

↳ Sasha @6:26

Apparently! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:27pm
Deano de los Muertos:

↳ Stu Horvath @6:26

Oh no, haunted by the janitor that died in the fire Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:27pm
StringOFperils: Unfinished in life, magnetic in death. Avatar 6:28pm
MarciB: But everyone in my family has had experience with ghosts...from my fam in the UK to me, hubby + pals on Martha's Vineyard (the most haunted place in the US) Avatar 6:29pm
MarciB: ohh and I love listening to "Spooked" though I don't buy every session.   6:30pm
ledzeppelinsucks: Electronics may be affected by spirits. There are reports worldwide of haunted cell phones, medical equipment and restaurant supplies. www.hauntedcellphones.com is a brilliant idea. There ate many messed ip computers and machines that technicians can’t fix. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:30pm
Bandit: To tie this into gaming Bureau 13 is a fun investigative game of agents trying to keep the mysterious and supernatural under wraps from the general public Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:30pm
Sasha: Top pick for 80's new wave(-esque) / UFO tracks: www.youtube.com... Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Bas NL: A Flock of Seagulls.. yup, British and spooky alright! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Count d'Al Dente: Vestiges of vegetables cloud my mind. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
StringOFperils: Some Irish UFO hilarity >
www.youtube.com... Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
Sara Clemens: Adam just casually destroying Stu very politely Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:34pm
Stu Horvath:

↳ Bandit @6:30

y'all are feeding me so many things to look up after the show   6:34pm
ledzeppelinsucks: Spirits often seek machinery. There are hundreds of thousands of graves near Colma BART. There are often sightings of ofd era clothing, strangely moving bodies and entities moving towards the station. I did an IT job for BART and employees know Colma is haunted. The security cams at Colma BART picks up weird shit. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:35pm
Bandit:

↳ Stu Horvath @6:34

The og B13 system is a bit chunky (its an older game) but the setting details are easily transferable to any game system Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
chris in the redwoods: Gillian Anderson's acting is one of the best things about The Abandons on 'flix. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
Sara Clemens:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:36

I've heard it's otherwise not that great, what do you think? Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:36

*new series retelling same old (tired, yet?) storyline. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:38pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ Sara Clemens @6:37

ah beat me to it. ya, not that great. but her acting is fanfreakingtastic. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:38pm
Bas NL: Ohww, and aliens conducting medical experiments on their subjects. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:38pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Bandit @6:35

Sounds like the fiction of ... whatshisname, the occult SF author who writes about the agency tasked with dealing with occult stuff? Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:39pm
Sasha:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:38

Charles Stross? Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:39pm
Sara Clemens:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:38

well she is a goddess on earth, so Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:39pm
Stu Horvath:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:38

Laundry? Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:39pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Sasha @6:39

Charles Stross! Just came to me as well. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
Sara Clemens: Now Adam just casually destroys me very politely Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
Stu Horvath: He is so polite! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:39

Holy crap, dude invented the githyanki! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
Webhamster Henry: I disagree, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Queen of Venus, was Hungarian Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
Stu Horvath:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:40

and the Death Knight! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
Handy Haversack: The sexy Nordic aliens were from Venus (allegedly), right?   6:41pm
ledzeppelinsucks: I went to the library in Green River WY last month. It was constructed in the late 1980s over a razed cemetery. The place has malfunctioning plumbing, computers snd startled customers. I read a log book full of the ghost stories there. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Stu Horvath @6:41

Well, shiver me timbers! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
Sara Clemens:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:41

I didn't even know they existed!! I hope so, though Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
Bandit:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:38

I wouldn't be surprised if the Laundry files was inspired by B13 or X-Files, or both Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:43pm
StringOFperils: Fear of invasion. Paranoia. Insecurity. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:43pm
Sasha: Favourite Stross writing, free to read:

archive.org...

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:44pm
Deano de los Muertos:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:40

I downloaded Baldur’s Gate III as something slowplaced to play with my injured thumb. My first party member was a githyanki and I’m like “what the hell is this??”   6:45pm
?: Be more concerned about this...which is real:

https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/trump-moon-2028-lunar-base-golden-dome

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:45pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:44

Ha! Sharks: jumped! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:46pm
Bandit: Githyanki are fun space elves Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:46pm
Handy Haversack: We just rewatched The Good Place, so Janet has extra resonance right now. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:47pm
Sasha: Here's another fun one by him, nuclear paranoia meets the Cthulu mythos! www.infinityplus.co.uk... Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:47pm
Deano de los Muertos:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:45

I only got to play real D&D 25 years ago, I don’t think they existed yet (to my knowledge)   6:47pm
ledzeppelinsucks: I stayed near Fort Dick snd went to Pine Barrens in 2024, had to leave to see Circle Jerks in Philthydelphia. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:47pm
Folsom:

↳ ledzeppelinsucks @6:34

Wasn't that part of the plot of the movie The Manitou? Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Bandit @6:46

Tell that to this guy! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
Bandit:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:48

Then there are the actual space elves from Spelljammer. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:48

Wait, sorry, THIS guy!

external-content.duckduckgo.com...

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
Handy Haversack:

↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:47

Published in the US in 1981 in TSR's Fiend Folio. I don't know how they fared in later iterations of the game so don't know what their status was 25 years ago. But 40 years ago we were definitely fighting them! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
Deano de los Muertos:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:50

Oh, weird Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
Bandit:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:49

Now that is a battle jacket Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ Handy Haversack @6:49

toured with Maiden back in the day, yeah? Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm
Count d'Al Dente: I figure what we see as UFO's are of earthly origin, developed by the aerospace industry after decades of studying Tesla's papers. The idea of visitors from other planets is the same as hoping for a Messiah, it's just the desire to be rescued from the shit-storm we've produced, and want to get out of without doing any work. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
Sasha:

↳ Count d'Al Dente @6:52

The excellent scientific white paper 'Repo Man' points out UFOs are time travelling craft piloted by humans from the future. Avatar 6:54pm
Troy: Thank you! Fun show. Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
StringOFperils: www.congress.gov... Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
Webhamster Henry:

↳ Count d'Al Dente @6:52

UFO: the name says it all: What is this flying thing? I don't know. Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Bas NL: Thanks Sara & Stu & Adam! Nice show! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Deano de los Muertos: Great fill in! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Bandit: This show is why WFMU needs a Coast to Coast am type show Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
chris in the redwoods: thanks, Sara and Stu and Adam! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Handy Haversack: Thanks, Sara, Stu! Hauntingly good show -- and that's a positive ID! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Count d'Al Dente:

↳ Sasha @6:53

A late friend of mine was a titanium specialist and was working on a piece of a larger project, and after consulting with fellow engineers who were working on other portions of this project, they concluded they were working on a "flying saucer". Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
StringOFperils: Thank you. Don't let the living haunt your holiday dreams! Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
Bandit: Great show Sara and Stu!! Please do more episodes of Games People play!! I need more of it lol Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
∫ydniuß: 🛸 thanks! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
tim: Thank you! Really fun show! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
chris in the redwoods:

↳ Count d'Al Dente @6:56

my uncle designed and built a machine that could simultaneously shape and weld titanium. for a company subcontracting for a military project. so maybe related. <shrugs> Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Bas NL:

↳ Song: "Unmarked Helicopters" by "Soul Coughing"

Nice! Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Deano de los Muertos:

↳ ∫ydniuß @6:59

🙉🪨 Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
Stu Horvath: Thank you friends! Avatar 7:36pm
joe_rosevear: That was entertaining.

Thanks!