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What, no techies?
Hey, Mark, I guess it's just you and me.
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Ah, we're doing it on the Techtonic board. OK!
Sara! Stu! PCs and N-s!
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Hi Fill-ins! Please click on the fire trucks to prove you aren't robots. 🚑🚚🚛🚒🛻🚙🚚🚒🚑🚛
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Hi Sara & Stu! The Ghost of Christmas Tech Anxieties.. nice!
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Oh, I get it!
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House (Hausu) is a Christmas movie. Prove Me Wrong!
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Hey Stu & Sara! Always a pleasant surprise 🕹️
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Can there be a video game where you inflict increasingly embarrassing and painful difficulties on various tech oligarchs? Lots of fun for all ages!
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We watched Ghostbusters just last night!
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Ghost stories are very much a very old Xmas tradition!!
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Ghosts? Roky erickson said “if you have ghosts, then you have everything”
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Steampunk ghost stories... :)
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The books Tales of the Weird Stu is talking about
shop.bl.uk...
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Ghosts - the original surveillance state
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Ken From Hyde Park @6:04
This could be a board game as well. Cast diarrhea!
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Just watched this at a screening in Kingston. So good.
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Pre-surveillance.. when things crashed uncontrolled.
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The craziest horror movie I’ve ever seen feature a haunted train that left the tracks to run over some peasant women in a field, chasing them through a pond and then returning to the tracks. 🚂
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“You can tell by the shape of his skull he’s a charlatan!”
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All these journalists with their 'both sides' [air quotes] emm i rite?!?
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I heard part of THROUGHLINE show on wnyc (oh stop hissing) yest, & it focused on dickens’s a Christmas Carol. It was very good
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Deano de los Muertos @6:07
Beyond the Door III
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What's wrong with time loops?
-- signed,
a Groundhog
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Deano de los Muertos @6:09
Saving this to my Letterboxd watchlist
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Deano de los Muertos @6:07
That's dirty pool!
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I think of ghost stories as more of a summer campfire/thunderstorm tradition than a Christmas one.
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Bandit @6:10
I don’t remember much, saw it on TV years ago..but I remember that
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I think one of the craziest horror movies I ever saw was A Dark Song, and I realized last night that there's a Ghostbusters allusion in a climactic scene!
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Hello Techtonics!!
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Handy Haversack @6:12
Stu and I LOVE A Dark Song
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Sara Clemens @6:12
Such a great movie. And then at the end goes ALL THE WAY THERE.
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Sam @6:06
LOL
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Handy Haversack @6:13
Totally.
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Is Adam familiar with Mark McCandiish?
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Handy Haversack @6:12
en.wikipedia.org...
Hmm, haven’t heard of Dark Song. I just watched Green Knight on someone’s recommendation from the accu
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Cool conversation! I love when Techtonic and Music for Mind Control cross paths!
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My mom used to get me horror stories for Christmas. I'd devour them, happy to drop out of all the surrounding holiday anxiety. The nightmares on the page were a refuge.
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Great topic tonight
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StringOFperils @6:16
👏👏👏 Exactly.
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i enjoyed the Green Knight. it was one of my fav books as a teen. tho the movie is quite a different telling.
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Yeah, M. R. James has been the subtext of this convo, definitely.
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Algernon Blackwood
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chris in the redwoods @6:18
I enjoyed it. Just watched Slenderman too. Gotta remember to tell Miche1e
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chris in the redwoods @6:18
Isn't the movie closer to the Arthurian legend?
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Nice. Just went through two compendiums of David Tibet's favourite ghost stories.
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Handy Haversack @6:18
I'm unfamiliar with MR James. Any recommendations of where to start?
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tim @6:19
The big white ones from Strange Attractor?
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Deano de los Muertos @6:19
yes, that makes sense to me.
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tim @6:19
There are TONS of collections. Just grab one from the liberry and dive on in!
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tim @6:19
Count Magnus is my fave!
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@ Stu yep those ones (I presume this was directed at me?)
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Handy Haversack @6:20
Also check out Arthur Machen.
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Thanks for the recommendations!
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Sasha @6:21
Whoops, yea, those are great. Love the lads at SAP
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Stu Horvath @6:22
Me too! Was lucky enough to attend a series of seminars at their studios a few years ago. Need to do all the London's Lost Rivers walks.
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oh god those Rivers books are SO GOOD
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This might be of interest to DJs and listeners alike, an interesting little paper on ghost sightings and infrasound:
www.richardwiseman.com...
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It's fascinating that during this time, the US had its first female candidate for president, Victoria Woodhull. And she and her sister Tenne we spiritualists.
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the Williams Center is supposed to be haunted. I only experienced unexplained footfalls. Other former coworkers have crazier stories.
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Deano de los Muertos @6:25
By WCW?
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MarciB @6:25
And they ended up moving to England and marrying quite well...
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Stu Horvath @6:26
named after him yeah, in Rutherford
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MarciB @6:25
Nothing scarier to Americans than a female in charge apparentl
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Sasha @6:26
Apparently!
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Stu Horvath @6:26
Oh no, haunted by the janitor that died in the fire
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Unfinished in life, magnetic in death.
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But everyone in my family has had experience with ghosts...from my fam in the UK to me, hubby + pals on Martha's Vineyard (the most haunted place in the US)
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ohh and I love listening to "Spooked" though I don't buy every session.
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Electronics may be affected by spirits. There are reports worldwide of haunted cell phones, medical equipment and restaurant supplies. www.hauntedcellphones.com is a brilliant idea. There ate many messed ip computers and machines that technicians can’t fix.
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To tie this into gaming Bureau 13 is a fun investigative game of agents trying to keep the mysterious and supernatural under wraps from the general public
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Top pick for 80's new wave(-esque) / UFO tracks:
www.youtube.com...
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A Flock of Seagulls.. yup, British and spooky alright!
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Vestiges of vegetables cloud my mind.
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Some Irish UFO hilarity >
www.youtube.com...
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Adam just casually destroying Stu very politely
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Bandit @6:30
y'all are feeding me so many things to look up after the show
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Spirits often seek machinery. There are hundreds of thousands of graves near Colma BART. There are often sightings of ofd era clothing, strangely moving bodies and entities moving towards the station. I did an IT job for BART and employees know Colma is haunted. The security cams at Colma BART picks up weird shit.
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Stu Horvath @6:34
The og B13 system is a bit chunky (its an older game) but the setting details are easily transferable to any game system
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Gillian Anderson's acting is one of the best things about The Abandons on 'flix.
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chris in the redwoods @6:36
I've heard it's otherwise not that great, what do you think?
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chris in the redwoods @6:36
*new series retelling same old (tired, yet?) storyline.
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Sara Clemens @6:37
ah beat me to it. ya, not that great. but her acting is fanfreakingtastic.
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Ohww, and aliens conducting medical experiments on their subjects.
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Bandit @6:35
Sounds like the fiction of ... whatshisname, the occult SF author who writes about the agency tasked with dealing with occult stuff?
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Handy Haversack @6:38
Charles Stross?
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chris in the redwoods @6:38
well she is a goddess on earth, so
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Handy Haversack @6:38
Laundry?
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Sasha @6:39
Charles Stross! Just came to me as well.
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Now Adam just casually destroys me very politely
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He is so polite!
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Handy Haversack @6:39
Holy crap, dude invented the githyanki!
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I disagree, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Queen of Venus, was Hungarian
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Handy Haversack @6:40
and the Death Knight!
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The sexy Nordic aliens were from Venus (allegedly), right?
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I went to the library in Green River WY last month. It was constructed in the late 1980s over a razed cemetery. The place has malfunctioning plumbing, computers snd startled customers. I read a log book full of the ghost stories there.
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Stu Horvath @6:41
Well, shiver me timbers!
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Handy Haversack @6:41
I didn't even know they existed!! I hope so, though
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Handy Haversack @6:38
I wouldn't be surprised if the Laundry files was inspired by B13 or X-Files, or both
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Fear of invasion. Paranoia. Insecurity.
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Favourite Stross writing, free to read:
archive.org...
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Handy Haversack @6:40
I downloaded Baldur’s Gate III as something slowplaced to play with my injured thumb. My first party member was a githyanki and I’m like “what the hell is this??”
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Be more concerned about this...which is real:
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/trump-moon-2028-lunar-base-golden-dome
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Deano de los Muertos @6:44
Ha! Sharks: jumped!
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Githyanki are fun space elves
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We just rewatched The Good Place, so Janet has extra resonance right now.
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Here's another fun one by him, nuclear paranoia meets the Cthulu mythos!
www.infinityplus.co.uk...
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Handy Haversack @6:45
I only got to play real D&D 25 years ago, I don’t think they existed yet (to my knowledge)
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I stayed near Fort Dick snd went to Pine Barrens in 2024, had to leave to see Circle Jerks in Philthydelphia.
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ledzeppelinsucks @6:34
Wasn't that part of the plot of the movie The Manitou?
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Bandit @6:46
Tell that to this guy!
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Handy Haversack @6:48
Then there are the actual space elves from Spelljammer.
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Handy Haversack @6:48
Wait, sorry, THIS guy!
external-content.duckduckgo.com...
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Deano de los Muertos @6:47
Published in the US in 1981 in TSR's Fiend Folio. I don't know how they fared in later iterations of the game so don't know what their status was 25 years ago. But 40 years ago we were definitely fighting them!
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Handy Haversack @6:50
Oh, weird
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Handy Haversack @6:49
Now that is a battle jacket
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Handy Haversack @6:49
toured with Maiden back in the day, yeah?
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I figure what we see as UFO's are of earthly origin, developed by the aerospace industry after decades of studying Tesla's papers. The idea of visitors from other planets is the same as hoping for a Messiah, it's just the desire to be rescued from the shit-storm we've produced, and want to get out of without doing any work.
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Count d'Al Dente @6:52
The excellent scientific white paper 'Repo Man' points out UFOs are time travelling craft piloted by humans from the future.
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Thank you! Fun show.
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www.congress.gov...
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Count d'Al Dente @6:52
UFO: the name says it all: What is this flying thing? I don't know.
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Thanks Sara & Stu & Adam! Nice show!
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Great fill in!
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This show is why WFMU needs a Coast to Coast am type show
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thanks, Sara and Stu and Adam!
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Thanks, Sara, Stu! Hauntingly good show -- and that's a positive ID!
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Sasha @6:53
A late friend of mine was a titanium specialist and was working on a piece of a larger project, and after consulting with fellow engineers who were working on other portions of this project, they concluded they were working on a "flying saucer".
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Thank you. Don't let the living haunt your holiday dreams!
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Great show Sara and Stu!! Please do more episodes of Games People play!! I need more of it lol
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🛸 thanks!
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Thank you! Really fun show!
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Count d'Al Dente @6:56
my uncle designed and built a machine that could simultaneously shape and weld titanium. for a company subcontracting for a military project. so maybe related. <shrugs>
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"Unmarked Helicopters" by "Soul Coughing"
Nice!
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∫ydniuß @6:59
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Thank you friends!
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That was entertaining.
Thanks!