We study speech intent classification and slot filling (SICSF) by proposing to use an encoder pretrained on speech recognition (ASR) to initialize an end-to-end (E2E) Conformer-Transformer model, which achieves the new state-of-the-art results on the SLURP dataset, with 90.14% intent accuracy and 82.27% SLURP-F1. We compare our model with encoders pretrained on self-supervised learning (SSL), and show that ASR pretraining is much more effective than SSL for SICSF. To explore parameter efficiency, we freeze the encoder and add Adapter modules, and show that parameter efficiency is only achievable with an ASR-pretrained encoder, while the SSL encoder needs full finetuning to achieve comparable results. In addition, we provide an in-depth comparison on end-to-end models versus cascading models (ASR+NLU), and show that E2E models are better than cascaded models unless an oracle ASR model is provided. Last but not least, our model is the first E2E model that achieves the same performance as cascading models with oracle ASR. Code, checkpoints and configs are available.