We study the binary and continuous negative-margin perceptrons as simple non-convex neural network models learning random rules and associations. We analyze the geometry of the landscape of solutions in both models and find important similarities and differences. Both models exhibit subdominant minimizers which are extremely flat and wide. These minimizers coexist with a background of dominant solutions which are composed by an exponential number of algorithmically inaccessible small clusters for the binary case (the frozen 1-RSB phase) or a hierarchical structure of clusters of different sizes for the spherical case (the full RSB phase). In both cases, when a certain threshold in constraint density is crossed, the local entropy of the wide flat minima becomes non-monotonic, indicating a break-up of the space of robust solutions into disconnected components. This has a strong impact on the behavior of algorithms in binary models, which cannot access the remaining isolated clusters. For the spherical case the behaviour is different, since even beyond the disappearance of the wide flat minima the remaining solutions are shown to always be surrounded by a large number of other solutions at any distance, up to capacity. Indeed, we exhibit numerical evidence that algorithms seem to find solutions up to the SAT/UNSAT transition, that we compute here using an 1RSB approximation. For both models, the generalization performance as a learning device is shown to be greatly improved by the existence of wide flat minimizers even when trained in the highly underconstrained regime of very negative margins.