Coarse graph theory concerns finding 'coarse' analogues of graph theory theorems, replacing disjointness with being far apart. One of the most interesting open questions is to find a coarse analogue of Menger's theorem, which characterizes when there are $k$ vertex-disjoint paths between two given sets $S,T$ of vertices of a graph. We showed in an earlier paper that the most natural such analogue is false, but a weaker statement remained as a popular open question. Here we show that the weaker statement is also false. More exactly, suppose that $S,T$ are sets of vertices of a graph $G$, and there do not exist $k$ paths between $S,T$, pairwise at distance at least $c$. To make an analogue of Menger's theorem, one would like to prove that there must be a small set $X\subseteq V(G)$ such that every $S-T$ path of $G$ passes close to a member of $X$: but how small and how close? In view of Menger's theorem, one would hope for $|X|<k$ and 'close' some function of $k,c$ (and indeed, this was conjectured by Georgakopoulos and Papasoglu, and independently, by Albrechtsen, Huynh, Jacobs, Knappe and Wollan); but we showed that this is false, even if $c=3$ and $k=3$. Here we upgrade the counterexample: we show that, even if $c=k=3$, no pair of constants (for 'small' and 'close') work. For all $\ell, m$, there is a graph $G$ and $S,T\subseteq V(G)$, such that there do not exist three $S-T$ paths pairwise with distance at least three, and yet there is no $X$ with $|X|\le m$ such that every $S-T$ path passes within distance at most $\ell$ of $X$.