August 9th, 2024 × #drag-and-drop#accessibility#performance
Alex Reardon discusses building accessible and performant drag and drop interactions using native browser APIs and his Pragmatic Drag and Drop library.
Wes Bos Host
Scott Tolinski Host
Scott and Wes talk with Alex Reardon from Atlassian about developing drag-and-drop libraries, specifically the challenges with creating efficient and accessible drag-and-drop functionalities for the web. They also explore what it takes to build and implement a system that works seamlessly across various frameworks.
Show Notes
- 00:00 Welcome to Syntax!
- 01:18 Brought to you by Sentry.io.
- 01:51 What Alex does at Atlassian
- 04:38 What makes drag and drop tricky.
- 06:38 Use-cases.
- 10:54 What security is in place?
- 12:30 How to make it feel native.
- 19:20 Is the drag and drop spec ongoing?
- 20:03 How do you build this headless?
- 21:33 How does drag and drop work with frameworks?
- 23:48 Making drag and drop feel the same across mobile and desktop.
- 26:09 What's the key to really good drag performance?
- 29:58 How do you make drag and drop accessible?
- 34:57 Pragmatic drag and drop code vs application code.
- 40:00 How does testing work?
- 43:15 Internal adoption at Atlassian.
- 44:27 Working on high-impact projects.
- 49:15 Versioning and internal adoption at Atlassian.
- 51:29 Sick Picks + Shameless Plugs.
Sick Picks
- Alex: Coffee, James Hoffmann YouTube Channel.
Shameless Plugs
- Alex: Dom Events.
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