September 22nd, 2025 ×
Wes Bos Host
Scott Tolinski Host
Scott and Wes sit down with Evan You, creator of Vue, Vite, and VoidZero, to dig into the future of frontend tooling. From the speed of Rolldown to why he chose Rust, they explore the evolution of developer experience, bundlers, and what’s next for the web.
Show Notes
- 00:00 Welcome to Syntax!
- 00:31 Who is Evan You?
- 01:19 Making the shift from UI to Toolchains.
- 02:37 How aesthetics contributed to the success of Vue and Vite.
- 05:26 Adding Rollup plugins to the Dev Server.
- 07:31 Brought to you by Sentry.io.
- 07:56 Rollup and Rolldown explained.
- 09:29 NAPIRS.
- 10:02 Why Rust and not Go?
- 12:04 Rolldown's speed and performance.
- 15:09 Dealing with massive buildtimes.
- 17:42 How has the transition been?
- 20:34 Why do we even need a bundler?
- 23:25 Vite's superior developer experience.
- 26:01 Fullstack Vue?
- 31:45 Node and Vite's relationship.
- 35:41 Wes' wishlist.
- 37:28 Hot takes.
- 37:37 Would Next be better with Vite?
- 41:09 Thoughts on React Server Components.
- 43:40 Thought on Remix 3.
- 46:22 Tell us about Void0.
- 51:36 Sick Picks + Shameless Plugs.
Sick Picks
- Evan: Laravel Lamborghini Shaped Stress Toys
Shameless Plugs
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Wes: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads