April 13th, 2026 ×
Wes Bos Host
Scott Tolinski Host
In this episode, Scott and Wes sit down with Tim Neutkens and Jimmi Lai from the Next.js team to dig into the new Adapters API, what it takes to run Next.js across platforms like Cloudflare and Netlify, and how caching and infrastructure choices affect performance. They also go deep on TurboPack's internals, why Next.js doesn't run on Vite, and the evolution of bundling in the framework.
Show Notes
- 00:00 Welcome to Syntax!
- 01:14 Introduction to Next.js and the Adapter Platform
- 02:23 The Adapters API: Features and Community Needs
- 04:46 Building and Testing the Adapters API
- 07:37 Infrastructure Requirements for Next.js Apps
- 11:38 Caching Strategies and Performance Optimization
- 13:29 The Role of Cache Components in Next.js
- 17:21 First Steps of Optimizations.
- 19:48 Blessed Adapters and Community Contributions
- 22:56 Future Directions and Runtime Support
- 25:05 Challenges with Different Runtimes and Debugging
- 26:45 Webpack vs. TurboPack: The Evolution of Next.js
- 29:45 Why Not Run on Vite?
- 32:47 Navigating Bundler Challenges
- 36:59 Building TurboPack: Lessons Learned
- 41:42 Incremental Compilation and Performance
- 43:50 Framework Comparisons and Performance Metrics
- 46:42 Exploring Future Directions for TurboPack
- 49:44 TurboPack's Integration and API Development
- 52:50 Standardization in Bundler Tools
- 56:52 TurboPack's Adoption and User Experience
- 57:49 Sick Picks + Shameless Plugs
Sick Picks
- Tim: Acquired Podcast
- Jimmy: Hydrangea Coffee
Shameless Plugs
- Jimmy: nextjs-across-platforms
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