Posted Apr 10, 2026 9:18 UTC (Fri) by mbunkus (subscriber, #87248) [Link] (6 responses)
I'm sorry for nitpicking here: Ogg is a container format, not a codec. Both of you probably mean Ogg+Vorbis (Vorbis being the audio codec packaged inside an Ogg container). That's generally universally supported. More spotty is support for Ogg+Opus, with Opus being the current, modern audio codec by Xiph.
Posted Apr 10, 2026 10:20 UTC (Fri) by rsidd (subscriber, #2582) [Link] (1 responses)
This is true, but the vorbis audio files generally have the extension .ogg while opus files have .opus. So it is common to say "ogg" when "ogg vorbis" is what is meant.
Posted Apr 10, 2026 10:39 UTC (Fri) by mbunkus (subscriber, #87248) [Link]
Yeah, absolutely (and some players even only play Ogg+Opus file if they use an .opus extension but not if they use an .ogg extension… potayto, potahto). I only replied as the conversation was about support/compatibility, and there is a noticeable difference in support for Vorbis vs. Opus.
Posted Apr 10, 2026 18:07 UTC (Fri) by nowster (subscriber, #67) [Link] (3 responses)
You could also potentially have FLAC, PCM, Dirac, Theora and/or Speex inside an Ogg wrapping.
Posted Apr 10, 2026 18:45 UTC (Fri) by mbunkus (subscriber, #87248) [Link] (2 responses)
Posted Apr 10, 2026 22:02 UTC (Fri) by NYKevin (subscriber, #129325) [Link] (1 responses)
Posted Apr 11, 2026 2:05 UTC (Sat) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]
You can chain Matroska files into other files by using chapter references. For example, you can have an "seamless season" `.mkv` that plays the episodes of a series' season(s) without intros and outros as a single file by listing the "core" chapter IDs in sibling `.mkv` files in order. For audio, it is probably less useful unless you're cutting (typically) fiction podcasts into chapters with which to then do this. Or someone published chapter metadata for podcasts to cut out in situ ads. Alas, very few podcasts actually use chapters in the first place…
Posted Apr 10, 2026 11:13 UTC (Fri) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link]
Posted Apr 10, 2026 13:52 UTC (Fri) by jzb (editor, #7867) [Link]
Oh, Android-based players certainly exist... plenty of them.
Yes, Android does support Ogg Vorbis, but there are many people who don't use Android. My family fits in that category. My wife and daughter will abandon their iPhones shortly after the heat death of the universe and probably not before that. And, of course, my decision to standardize on MP3 predates 2026 by many, many years; I just happened to write about it now.
The player I was referring to was a sub-$25 MP3 player I picked up to send with my daughter when she went to AmeriCorps in 2024. I preloaded some MicroSD cards with a bunch of playlists I had curated for them over the years. The odds of it being lost or mangled were pretty high, so I figured the cheaper, the better. Ogg support was not a consideration. :-) The previous time she went on a trip, I had to buy new glasses because hers were lost in a body of water in Florida...
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