You is the ultimate antihero confection—Joe Goldberg is a reprehensible, horrifying entity who deserves every punishment he gets, but it sure was fun watching him fixate on his various victims and pile up the body count. This story of delusion, romantic obsession, and serial killing was frothy fun for five seasons, but if you’re not ready to let go (Joe would relate), there are other sources of similar dark vibes and violent delights that can help you deal—and if you’ve burned through all the great shows we’ve already recommended, it’s time to expand your search to books, movies, games, and podcasts. Here’s where you can get started on your You-alike journey.

You is based on a series of terrific novels by Caroline Kepnes, and there’s a deep well of novels that explore similarly dark, obsessive stories.

You First, by Caroline Kepnes

There are now five novels in Kepnes’ You series, and they’re all great—but if you’re looking to expand your appreciation of Joe Goldberg’s weird, off-center charm and legendary manipulation skills, check out You First. This is Joe’s origin story, detailing how he became the twisted, brilliant man you’ve followed for five seasons. At seventeen, Joe is desperate for the love of his life to show up. When an older woman shows interest, he has to lie about how old he actually is, and somehow level up everything about himself to convince her that he’s worth her time—and you can guess how it goes for everyone involved. It’s the perfect way to get a little more genuine You into your life.

The Collector, by John Fowles

Published in 1963, The Collector is a clear predecessor to You. A lonely, socially stunted man named Frederick Clegg fixates on a young college student named Miranda. After buying an isolated house in a remote area, he turns his basement into a prison and kidnaps Miranda, believing that if he keeps her prisoner for a while and shows her “every respect,” she will come to love him. The story is divided between Clegg and Miranda’s perspectives and is a master class in depicting a disturbed mind and the ways someone can adapt to the most horrifying circumstances you can imagine.

Wuthering Heights, by Emily Brontë

This 19th-century classic story has been adapted to the screen many times, but the best way to experience it remains the original novel. You fans will recognize some of Joe’s violent obsession in the character of Heathcliff, whose whole life is centered on his childhood friend-turned One True Love—all of it souring into furious anger and dark vengeance that destroys everything around him. It’s a beautiful exploration of the destructive power of unhinged desire that never goes out of style.

The Obsession, by Jesse Q. Sutanto

The push-and-pull between Joe and his various fixations is part of the pulpy joys of You, and Obsession delivers that in spades. Logan, a student at a swanky private school in California, is mourning the death of Sophie, whom he regarded as the love of his life—at least, he mourns until he meets Delilah, a newly arrived senior who closely resembles Sophie. As Logan singlemindedly inserts himself into Delilah’s life, she’s desperate to escape her mother’s abusive boyfriend as well as the relationship patterns she fears she’s inherited from her. The two engage in a complex dance as their relationship spirals into page-turning violence.

Read Me, by Leo Benedictus

If you’re fascinated by the techniques Joe uses in You to infiltrate people’s lives and make them see him as he wants to be seen, Read Me will resonate. The narrator has come into a large inheritance, and he’s spending it doing what he loves: Stalking women and injecting chaos into their lives. He’s currently fixated on Frances, and freely enters her home while she sleeps, monitors her every movement and social media post, and eventually ruins her professional and personal life as his obsession pushes him to ever more terrifying acts of manipulation and control. It’s a tense, thrilling ride with a dark personality that will definitely remind you of Joe’s efforts to rationalize his evil behavior.

The best movies like You

One of the pleasures of watching You is watching attractive, charming people do and experience terrible things. If you want more dark thrills along those lines, check out these amazing movies.

Single White Female (1992)

This 90s gem starring Bridget Fonda and Jennifer Jason Leigh is all about the risks we take when we invite people into our private lives. When Allie (Fonda) learns that her fiancé cheated on her, she kicks him out of their apartment and takes on a roommate, Hedy (Leigh), to help with the rent. Hedy, however, immediately begins manipulating and then imitating Allie, trying to become her. It’s a taut, fast-moving thriller that explores a broken person’s insane attempts to control and possess someone else, just like You. Stream Single White Female on Netflix or rent it on Prime Video.

Ingrid Goes West (2017)

They say you covet what you see, and that’s a concept both You and Ingrid Goes West pivot off of. Ingrid (Aubrey Plaza) is a mentally unstable woman who fixates on an influencer, Taylor Sloane (Elizabeth Olsen) and travels to California to stalk her, insert herself into Taylor’s life, and try to reinvent herself as a version of the supposedly happier, more successful woman. It all spirals into madness, of course, as the film explores the violent spiral that obsession and self-delusion can lead to. Stream Ingrid Goes West on Kanopy or rent it on Prime Video.

Fear (1996)

At its core, You is a terrifying story—the idea that someone you meet is manipulating you for their own ends without your knowledge is chilling. In Fear, that terror is dialed up to 11. When teenage Nicole (Reese Witherspoon) begins dating the charming but menacing David (Mark Wahlberg), her father is unnerved. As both Nicole and her Dad slowly see through David’s superficial facade, David’s attempts to possess and control Nicole spiral from manipulation and deception into outright violence. David is a less subtle, less smart version of Joe, but the end result is the same: chaos and a body count. Stream Fear on Tubi or rent it on Prime Video.

The Perfect Guy (2015)

One key aspect of You is Joe Goldberg’s ability to mask his true self while systematically stalking and destroying people around him. The Perfect Guy presents a different kind of stalker—someone without Joe’s control or ability to wear a mask; it’s a different kind of terrifying. When Leah (Sanaa Lathan) meets Carter (Michael Ealy), he seems like (wait for it) the perfect guy—her friends and family all love him. But when he shows her a violent streak and she breaks up with him, he launches a deranged campaign to destroy her life that escalates to murder. Like Joe, Carter is able to evade justice and reinvent himself—but Leah isn’t willing to let him win. Stream The Perfect Guy on Starz or rent it on Prime Video.

Lolita (1962)

With its unsavory subject matter and gross main character, Lolita remains as controversial today as it was when first published or when Stanley Kubrick made this film adaptation. But like You, the story centers on a manipulative monster who works to take control over vulnerable people, leaving a cheerful trail of death and destruction in his wake. Humbert Humbert is as pathetic and horrifying as Joe, and this classic brings a tone of black comedy to a tale of destroyed lives and the damage a predator can do. Rent Lolita on Prime Video.

The best video games like You

Want to get inside the head of Joe Goldberg and experience something like his deranged worldview? A video game is a way to immerse yourself in the stalkerish, intrusive vibe of You. Here are some suggestions to check out.

Braid

Braid isn’t an obvious choice—it’s a side-scrolling platform game with puzzle-based gameplay. But as you work your way through the plot, the thematic parallels become increasingly obvious. You play as a man searching for a princess who has been kidnapped by a monster; we won’t spoil the whole plot here in case you’ve never encountered Braid before, but suffice to say that as you work your way through the game’s six main sections (using your ability to rewind time to solve puzzles as you go) the truth about what really happened to that princess becomes grimly, sadly obvious.

Platforms: PlayStation, Xbox, Steam

Who’s Lila?

Want to practice wearing a psychological mask like Joe does to manipulate and influence people? Who’s Lila? is literally about that. You play as a socially awkward boy named William who has to consciously arrange the features of his face to convey emotions, and as you look into the disappearance of a classmate named Tanya, you must arrange your features to elicit specific responses from the people you’re talking to. There’s a lot more going on in the game, but if you want to practice manipulating your general aura, this is the game for you.

Platforms: Steam

Telling Lies

Do you find the idea of searching through people’s private lives like a professional stalker exciting? Telling Lies gives you the chance to do just that without hurting any real people. You play as an FBI agent who has to solve a mystery by watching video clips on a stolen hard drive. With a few dozen characters and hours of video, you must scrub back and forth to catch details, inconsistencies, and other clues to figure out what’s going on, giving you all the voyeuristic thrills a fan of You might want to experience.

Platforms: PlayStation, Xbox, Nintendo Switch, Steam

Do Not Feed the Monkeys

Another game that lets you indulge your sick desire to spy on people, Do Not Feed the Monkeys has you monitoring live video feeds of a group of people while also trying to manage your own life (paying rent, taking care of your own physical health, etc.). You have opportunities to break the “rules” and interact with the subjects of your surveillance, which can have different impacts on the outcome of the game—but the real joy of this essentially plotless game is accessing new cameras that show you live feeds of sometimes very surprising scenarios.

Platforms: PlayStation, iOS, Android, Nintendo Switch, Steam

Hello Neighbor

If you’re maybe a bit uncomfortable playing a game as an enthusiastic stalker or voyeur watching people for your own entertainment, Hello Neighbor offers you an excuse: Your neighbor across the street is definitely hiding something terrible, and you have to break into their house and plumb their secrets in order to figure it out—and access their lock, creepy basement, where the ultimate secret lies. It’s tense and thrilling, and gives you a real sense of just how hard it is to intrude on someone’s life when they’re hostile toward your presence.

Platforms: PlayStation, iOS, Android, Nintendo Switch, Steam

The best podcasts like You

Want a more true crime approach to You’s dark delights? Do you need more dark fictional takes on monsters like Joe Goldberg? These podcasts will feed you.

Dirty John

Want to dig into the story of a real-life Joe Goldberg? Dirty John is what you’re looking for. John Michael Meehan was a nurse and a serial abuser who was adept at manipulating people and using them for his own weird needs. The podcast focuses on his relationship with Debra Newell, who Meehan met online and rapidly married, introducing violence and chaos into Newell’s life and the lives of her family.

The Shrink Next Door

The Shrink Next Door explores what might be the worst violation of trust you can imagine: A psychiatrist who manipulated his patients for his own personal gain. Dr. Isaac Herschkopf used his position of trust with vulnerable patients to insert himself into their lives, taking control of finances, living with them, and disrupting their other relationships, all under the guise of helping them. If you think that Joe’s ability to manipulate and deceive is a bit fictional, this podcast will convince you otherwise.

Strictly Stalking

If you want more perspective on stalking, stalkers, and the incredibly negative impact their manipulations have on victims, the true-crime podcast Strictly Stalking will open your eyes. Giving the victims a voice, the podcast focuses on stories that are ultimately inspiring examples of survival and triumph. At the same time, hearing how their stalkers infiltrated their lives and made them feel helpless is a sobering reminder that we’re all just one chance encounter away from having a Joe Goldberg in our lives.

Gaslight

Gaslight is a psychological thriller podcast starring Chloë Grace Moretz as a young girl named Danny who vanishes shortly after graduating high school, then reappears eight years later, married and changed in subtle, disturbing ways that alarm her old best friend Rebecca. As Rebecca digs into the reasons behind Danny’s disappearance and the nature of her relationship with her creepy husband, the truth that emerges is shocking and unexpected. It’s easy to imagine something like this playing out with Joe and one of his victims, except there isn’t a glass box anywhere in sight.

Stalked

Produced by the BBC, Stalked is the true story of Hannah Mossman Moore, who was brutally stalked for a decade by what appeared to be many different stalkers. Her phone service was routinely cut off, her friends and family harassed, and her every move recorded—and the police were less than helpful. The podcast makes clear the truly devastating impact an obsessed stalker can have on a person’s life in the digital age, even if it doesn’t end in bloodshed and covered-up murders. The identity of her stalker has never been conclusively proven, but the impact they had is undeniable.